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The way I read it is that if you are gold in 2023 and have 54 nights then you have requalified with 14 rollover nights.As a Gold, my Rollover Nights would be 14.
The way I read it is that if you are gold in 2023 and have 54 nights then you have requalified with 14 rollover nights.
If you were Diamond in 2023 and have 54 nights then no rollover nights.
I see your logic. But point out that's not how several websites and even some on FlyerTalk interpret it.
For example:
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Q:"No, Im looking to maximize my rollover for 2024. I was planning to stop at 59 nights since I already re-qualified for Diamond. Since the threshold below 59 is 40, I think that would mean that I would rollover 19 nights."
A:"No, you won't roll over any nights. You would only rollover 19 nights if your status for 2024 was going to be Gold."
At the moment my status for 2024, as clearly stated on the Hilton app is going to be "Gold".
The issue is on Jan 1 you are Diamond, not Gold.
I'll be Gold from my 2023 earn. Making me Gold in 2024. According to Hilton themselves: my 2024 status is Gold unless I stay another 5 nights in 2023.
Another quirk of the HH program. The status earning period, a calendar year, and the validity the status do not use the same dates.
Even the 31st March 2024 date is not guaranteed. It's not yet been updated in the T&Cs. So who really knows? But it's always been 31st March before.
From the T&Cs:
Elite members will rollover their elite qualifying nights even if they have downgraded status during the year.
Maybe if someone who didn't re-qualifity their current status in the past couple of years could comment? Rollover Nights are fairly new.
For what it’s worth, I’ve contacted Hilton Honors and have received mixed advice about this.
I referred to my actual current status of being Diamond with 54 earned nights and 1 Rollover Night.
Eventually on the 4th attempt, I received this, in an email:
After reviewing your account I am able to confirm that you have total of 55 nights where in 1 night is rollover from previous year. If you complete 5 more nights before 31st March 2024, you will retain your diamond status for the next year.
If you are not able to complete the creiteria before 31st March 2024, then your status will automatically downgrad to gold, and the extra 14 nights will be rollover to the next year.
Well, at least I have it in writing!![]()
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Yes there is no soft landingSorry this is OT from the rollover night discussion but the thread title is HH retention. I was HH diamond in 2023, and for most of the last 10 years due to Virgin plat, Macquarie HH credit card, covid extensions….With only a few stays in 2023 I expected to drop down to Gold, but my account says I will be “silver based on my 2023 activity.” Is that correct?
As I feared. I probably wasnt that far off Gold in 2023, but wasn't thinking about retention. Is there any point in asking for a challenge when status drops in April?Yes there is no soft landing
Has there been a change since this response (the end of Jan 2024)?Yes there is no soft landing
No, it never worked that way. You had to eventually requal under your own steam to retain Diamond (or Gold) as applicable.Has there been a change since this response (the end of Jan 2024)?
I'm Diamond courtesy of VA and in 2023 had less than 10 nights. Just received a "heads up" by email and in the app that my status will be Gold from 1 April.
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This is a pest as I've booked a few nights in SIN and PEN next month thinking hotel status remained concurrent with VA status, ie whilst VA WP my HH status would be Diamond.
I wish I'd known this just a week earlier. I could have done a mattress run every day from Tonga to American Samoa.
Also, don't leave us hanging @Austman? I'm guessing it went according to your plan?
Also, don't leave us hanging @Austman? I'm guessing it went according to your plan?