2025 F1 Thread

Autosport: Red Bull considers immediate swap of Lawson and Tsunoda for Japanese GP

Feel sorry for LAW if this happens, but TSU deserves a shot and I still believe RBR were premature in promoting LAW to the main team.
Red Bull seem to struggle with the reality of it being the car , not the driver and they will struggle no matter who they have in the #2 car .
But anyway I think the swap will happen this weekend , some fairly reliable media sources seem to think it's confirmed .

I went to the F1-75 launch live event in London (very hard to get tickets , but managed to get them). The general distaste of the audience towards redbull and the FIA overall was quite loud and vocal. They really are not liked .
 
Sitting in H. 11A. Which is just before the penultimate corner at the end of the long back straight.
Neglected to check the forums before going last weekend! Note to self for next time. Good odds I'll be back again next year as this time is usually when I do an annual visit to see family. Of course, all on the assumption Shanghai stays on the calendar.

Was seated at H on Day 1, and B on Day 3. Got an awesome shot on VER's overtake on LEC towards the end.

Still from video:
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O/T, but now in LXA and off to Shigatse & Everest Base Camp.
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Red Bull seem to struggle with the reality of it being the car , not the driver and they will struggle no matter who they have in the #2 car .
But anyway I think the swap will happen this weekend , some fairly reliable media sources seem to think it's confirmed .

I went to the F1-75 launch live event in London (very hard to get tickets , but managed to get them). The general distaste of the audience towards redbull and the FIA overall was quite loud and vocal. They really are not liked .
TSU's been doing so well at VCARB. If he moves to RBR, and potentially struggles, I hope it isn't the end of his F1 career. He's a great driver that's matured and delivered great results last and this season.
 
TSU's been doing so well at VCARB. If he moves to RBR, and potentially struggles, I hope it isn't the end of his F1 career. He's a great driver that's matured and delivered great results last and this season.
As mentioned by @Mal, it's looking increasingly likely that the LAW/TSU swap is a foregone conclusion for Suzuka and whilst many would view it as a poison chalice, the reality is that TSU doesn't have any choice in the matter. I've read various opinion pieces suggesting he should decline the offer if asked to make the switch, but the reality is that he's still a "Red Bull driver", which means that RB can choose to put him in whichever car they want.

It's true that if he moves to RB and fails to perform in the machinery, then his time in F1 could be coming to a rapid end. At the same time, the fact remains that he's been financially backed by Honda to date, so with Honda pulling out of Red Bull + VCARB at the end of the year, it's almost certain that TSU would lose his drive at VCARB anyway. Honda have made it clear that they're slowly moonwalking out of the room when it comes to their financial support of TSU and that he'll need to start looking after himself into the future. That also speaks volumes given Honda are switching to Aston Martin and could have easily taken TSU with them, but AM already have 2 drivers locked and loaded for 2026, plus they have Felipe Drugovich as their reserve driver and Stoffel Vandoorne as their alternative test and reserve driver. Essentially, there's no room at the inn for TSU. This pretty much leaves Cadillac F1 as the only remaining option, and you can be (reasonably) sure that they'll look to sign an American driver + someone from the F1 paddock with experience who can help them develop the car and mentor their team mate in the team's early years.

As well as TSU has been driving of late, the harsh reality is that with virtually all seats already spoken for in 2026, this is a make-or-break opportunity in RB that may well be TSU's only real chance to show that he deserves to be considered as a driver worthy of remaining on the grid and to try and secure a future beyond 2025.
 
As mentioned by @Mal, it's looking increasingly likely that the LAW/TSU swap is a foregone conclusion for Suzuka and whilst many would view it as a poison chalice, the reality is that TSU doesn't have any choice in the matter. I've read various opinion pieces suggesting he should decline the offer if asked to make the switch, but the reality is that he's still a "Red Bull driver", which means that RB can choose to put him in whichever car they want.

It's true that if he moves to RB and fails to perform in the machinery, then his time in F1 could be coming to a rapid end. At the same time, the fact remains that he's been financially backed by Honda to date, so with Honda pulling out of Red Bull + VCARB at the end of the year, it's almost certain that TSU would lose his drive at VCARB anyway. Honda have made it clear that they're slowly moonwalking out of the room when it comes to their financial support of TSU and that he'll need to start looking after himself into the future. That also speaks volumes given Honda are switching to Aston Martin and could have easily taken TSU with them, but AM already have 2 drivers locked and loaded for 2026, plus they have Felipe Drugovich as their reserve driver and Stoffel Vandoorne as their alternative test and reserve driver. Essentially, there's no room at the inn for TSU. This pretty much leaves Cadillac F1 as the only remaining option, and you can be (reasonably) sure that they'll look to sign an American driver + someone from the F1 paddock with experience who can help them develop the car and mentor their team mate in the team's early years.

As well as TSU has been driving of late, the harsh reality is that with virtually all seats already spoken for in 2026, this is a make-or-break opportunity in RB that may well be TSU's only real chance to show that he deserves to be considered as a driver worthy of remaining on the grid and to try and secure a future beyond 2025.
Good commentary.
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Was seated at H on Day 1, and B on Day 3. Got an awesome shot on VER's overtake on LEC towards the end.
Saw both of DOO's incidents on the penultimate corner and a decent amount of successful overtaking..

Decent spot just a long walk around from the station (I logged over 12km each of the 3 days).
And even if you leave quickly guaranteed a queue at the main station. Second day I walked to the other branch line (a 30min walk) and no queues but not as good for me as I was staying in the Suzhou direction.

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Soooo many media reports, will wait for Red Bull to confirm.......the drums are beating pretty loudly though.
Reflects badly on RB management, dithering around Checo last year (after again deafening reports of his mid-season demise, which proved unfounded).
But at the end of the day, they gave the seat to Lawson, and a 2 race probation period to sink or swim is pretty rough
 
Soooo many media reports, will wait for Red Bull to confirm.......the drums are beating pretty loudly though.
Reflects badly on RB management, dithering around Checo last year (after again deafening reports of his mid-season demise, which proved unfounded).
But at the end of the day, they gave the seat to Lawson, and a 2 race probation period to sink or swim is pretty rough
Yes
Only thing quicker than Liam’s demise was clearing Spice Boy
 
Soooo many media reports, will wait for Red Bull to confirm.......the drums are beating pretty loudly though.
Reflects badly on RB management, dithering around Checo last year (after again deafening reports of his mid-season demise, which proved unfounded).
But at the end of the day, they gave the seat to Lawson, and a 2 race probation period to sink or swim is pretty rough
Yup, I reckon they’ll announce the swap in the next 48 hours.
Last season, apparently Honda offered Red Bull $10m to get Tsunoda to replace Perez, but Red Bull chose to go with Lawson.
After China, Red Bull went back to Honda, who agreed to pay the money so long as Tsunoda was in the seat for their home GP in Japan.
Seems very unfair to Lawson but at a meeting after China, which included Mark Mateschnitz ( who inherited the 49% stake in Red Bull from his late father Dietrich ) it was agreed that the swap was necessary to stop the haemorrhaging of points that they were loosing having only Max performing.
 

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