42 737s Cabin Refresh from 2027

[MelbFlyer]

That QF will have only 7 A321s by June next year suggests there's very little to look forward to, all while the LCC subsidiary flies around 21 brand new airframes of the type. It's almost deranged.

Absolutely.

Why Jetstar has newer A321neo planes flying domestically, whilst Qantas are stuck with decade+ old 737s is the $64,000 question.

 

[justinbrett]

Absolutely.

Why Jetstar has newer A321neo planes flying domestically, whilst Qantas are stuck with decade+ old 737s is the $64,000 question.

It's the only way the JQ model works.

Not a new thing for LCCs to have the newest aircraft. It's pretty much a requirement.

 

[elanshin]

Can you even buy 319s now? Worst dutch roll I’ve ever experienced….

I believe it is still on Airbus' slides and the A319NEO is still a plane available. That said, I believe Airbus is pushing for the A220 instead. There's something like 57 total orders with 22 deliveries as of Nov last year so it is definitely not a popular plane.

I’d have hoped they’d standardise on 321 NEOs and XLRs, but remember that a major part of any purchase plan will be continued divide and conquer amongst the various staff groups. They’re great believers in the Chinese famine theory.

I wonder if you were given the ability to shape QF's future fleet, would you mix the MAX and the NEOs (safety records and Boeing situation aside - assumption is that it get's fixed but who knows these days). Given the timelines and delays everywhere, would the strategy work out if it's to get MAX's as well now and just say screw it, we're going to have 2 families anyways.

Probably topic drift, but will the current love of tariffs being expressed by some, not have the effect of reducing the potential sales of any 797 dramatically. Who’d buy it if they’re being impacted, when there’s a European alternative, and perhaps even a Chinese one. Beyond that, Boeing haven’t shown any ability to complete any projects in reasonable time frames in quite some time.

I dont think we'll see a 797 launched until 2030 until new engine breakthrough and Boeing fixes themselves. Airlines probably don't even entertain the idea until there is even remotely possibilities. We'll probably see more things in Airbus' camp hit the market first than Boeing. They might just make a new plane rather than continue the 320 family.

Absolutely.

Why Jetstar has newer A321neo planes flying domestically, whilst Qantas are stuck with decade+ old 737s is the $64,000 question.

It's a simple equation really. JQ margins are thinner and their customers are more price sensitive - new planes are much more fuel efficient. QF has higher margin and their loyal customers are going to fly them anyways, so there's no need to rush.