A couple of questions from an AAdvantage newbie

[v8Statesman]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Aus - USA must be direct transpacific (or via AKL) to qualify for the 37.5/62.5/72.5 K award levels.

I think I know the answer, but just want to check.

In theory, can I book a F award and fly PER-SYD/MEL in J then SYD/MEL-LAX in F then LAX-ORD in F and finally ORD-GRB in Y all for 72.5k miles?

 

[NM]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I think I know the answer, but just want to check.

In theory, can I book a F award and fly PER-SYD/MEL in J then SYD/MEL-LAX in F then LAX-ORD in F and finally ORD-GRB in Y all for 72.5k miles?

Yes, so long as you meet the connections rules along the way.

 

[NM]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Is it correct that if I book a domestic Qantas award using AA miles, I have to pay USD150 to have the miles returned to my account if I decide to cancel?

If you do not hold sufficient status with AAdvantage then there is a few for miles redeposit after an award cancellation. not sure if its waived for Plat, but I have had it waived for Exec Plat. I am not sure of the actual dollar amount for the "service" but US$150 sounds about the ballpark

Confirmed from aa.com that its only Exec Platinum who have the fee waived:

Reinstating Award Tickets

(Waived for AAdvantage Executive Platinum members using miles from their account)

You can request to have your AAdvantage mileage reinstated for an unused AAdvantage flight award if your ticket has not expired. Partially used awards cannot be reinstated.

When requesting a reinstatement, a $150 USD processing charge will be assessed per account for the first award ticket. Any additional award tickets reinstated to the same account at the same time will have a $25 USD per ticket add-on charge.

 

[v8Statesman]

Yes, so long as you meet the connections rules along the way.

It would be a pint to point ticket. So I can't see that being a problem.

Now to earn the miles


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[drron]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I think I know the answer, but just want to check.

In theory, can I book a F award and fly PER-SYD/MEL in J then SYD/MEL-LAX in F then LAX-ORD in F and finally ORD-GRB in Y all for 72.5k miles?

If QF dont sell PER-GRB you may not be able to do this as one AA Aaward-rules changed a couple of years ago-there is a long thread on this relating to CX on FT.
Basically to get such an award the airline involved has to sell it as a point to point fare.GRB does not show up on the QF website.

 

[v8Statesman]

If QF dont sell PER-GRB you may not be able to do this as one AA Aaward-rules changed a couple of years ago-there is a long thread on this relating to CX on FT.
Basically to get such an award the airline involved has to sell it as a point to point fare.GRB does not show up on the QF website.

What about AA? You can fly AA codes all the way.


Sent from my Telstra iPhone using the Australian Frequent Flyer application.

 

[v8Statesman]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

If QF dont sell PER-GRB you may not be able to do this as one AA Aaward-rules changed a couple of years ago-there is a long thread on this relating to CX on FT.
Basically to get such an award the airline involved has to sell it as a point to point fare.GRB does not show up on the QF website.

Just got home and had a look on EF. It seems both AA and QF have published F fares PER-GRB. I assume that means I shouldn't have a problem?

 

[drron]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

The problem as it was explained on both FT and TB was that if not AA metal you had to have a published fare on the carrier whose plane it was on the longest segment.I had just looked up on the QF website and it didn't list GRB.However if you have found a QF fare it should be apples.

 

[v8Statesman]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

The problem as it was explained on both FT and TB was that if not AA metal you had to have a published fare on the carrier whose plane it was on the longest segment.I had just looked up on the QF website and it didn't list GRB.However if you have found a QF fare it should be apples.

I like apples Interestingly, the *cough* cheap *cough* QF fare (A3SPCL) seems like it must go via HNL (forcing you off the A380) but the F2RT has no such restriction.

 

[Danger]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I think I know the answer, but just want to check.

In theory, can I book a F award and fly PER-SYD/MEL in J then SYD/MEL-LAX in F then LAX-ORD in F and finally ORD-GRB in Y all for 72.5k miles?

If this had been a J award at 62.5k, do the AA two class F/Y flights book into F or Y?

 

[DC3]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

If this had been a J award at 62.5k, do the AA two class F/Y flights book into F or Y?

My understanding is that on AA two-class F and Y flights, then J award books into Y.

 

[dfcatch]

Wow. USD150 aint cheap (less cheap than it was a fortnight ago).

I phoned the Australian number and went through to what I assume was their call centre. I might call the US number and see about waived fees.

It's always been USD$150 - waived for EXP when using using miles from their own account.

EDIT: NM beat me to it with the quote above

 

[dfcatch]

My understanding is that on AA two-class F and Y flights, then J award books into Y.

An AAward booked in J will put you in the F cabin on 2-class AA metal.

A QF award booked in J will put you in Y on 2-class AA metal.

..........

All AAwards (37.5/62.5/72.5) are anywhere in Aus to anywhere in North America as long as:

- there is appropriate award availability
- there are no stopovers
- as per Drron's comments

 

[NM]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

An AAward booked in J will put you in the F cabin on 2-class AA metal.

A QF award booked in J will put you in Y on 2-class AA metal.

Which is another AAdvantage of AA vs QF awards

 

[DC3]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

An AAward booked in J will put you in the F cabin on 2-class AA metal.

A QF award booked in J will put you in Y on 2-class AA metal.

Yes. Thanks for that. I seemed to be thinking of QF for some reason.

 

[Danger]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I cannot for the life of me work out how many points I'm going to earn with a particular QF flight accrued to AA.

For example, if I fly MEL-PER in B, as an AA Platinum (oneworld Sapphire), how many points and how many miles do I accrue? What about SYD-PER in V class?

I'm trying to get a feel for whether or not I'm going to requalify for AA Platinum this year. My account tells me how many miles I need to requalify as well as how many points (I understand you require either to requalify, with the third option being a certain number of sectors). But I've never learnt to understand it.

I've been on hold to AA Australian number for about 20 minutes. The agent can't work it out. It should be a simple question but she's twice put me on hold why she goes to figure it out.

 

[simongr]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I assume you have looked on this page: Qantas

Distance MEL-PER: 1,680 miles

As an AA Plat in B you earn:

Miles (essentially points): 3,360 - being 100% base miles and 100% Plat bonus.

For qualifying you earn:

Elite QUalifying points (1.5 per mile for B): 2,560
Elite qualifying Miles (100%): 1,680


SYD-PER in V - distance 2038 miles:

Miles: 2,038 being 50% base miles and 100% plat bonus

EQP (1.0 per mile): 2,038
EQM (50%): 1,019

 

[wandering_fred]

MRe: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

SYD-PER in V - distance 2038 miles:
Miles: 2,038 being 50% base miles and 100% plat bonus
EQP (1.0 per mile): 2,038
EQM (50%): 1,019

From serious experience on the PER-SIN route

V class earns 0.5 EQM per actual mile and 100% EQP of the earned miles.

So, SYD-PER is 1019 EQM 1019 EQP and as an AA PLT (or EXP) 2038 RDM.
on QF K H and B classes credit 100% EQM to the AA program

Which is why even though I endure the seat reservation issues I now ticket SIN-PER-SIN on the BA codeshares which will credit 100% EQM in almost all economy fare classes.

Happy wandering may or may not be possible with QF

Fred

 

[Danger]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I assume you have looked on this page: Qantas

Distance MEL-PER: 1,680 miles

As an AA Plat in B you earn:

Miles (essentially points): 3,360 - being 100% base miles and 100% Plat bonus.

For qualifying you earn:

Elite QUalifying points (1.5 per mile for B): 2,560
Elite qualifying Miles (100%): 1,680


SYD-PER in V - distance 2038 miles:

Miles: 2,038 being 50% base miles and 100% plat bonus

EQP (1.0 per mile): 2,038
EQM (50%): 1,019

Thanks for that. My confusion seems to arise with the difference between points and miles.

I can see how the "Current Elite Status Qualification" bar varies but I guess I get confused because the activity statement only relates to mileage earned, not points. The points balance just seems to change but I've never been able to work out how these move.

After being put on hold three times but the AA Australian (Fiji) agent, she was convinced that the double the distance figure showing in the total column on my activity statement (eg. 4081 being two times the 2041 distance between SYD and PER) must have been because there was an AA promotion for QF flights. She had no understanding (like me) of the 1.5 E thingys.

So EQ whatever refers to, in my case, my Platinum bonuses, being 100%? So, for me EQM is 1 (meaning for every one mile I fly, I earn one mile elite bonus) and EQP is 0.5 or 1 or 1.5 (meaning for every one mile I fly, I earn 0.5 or 1 or 1.5 points per mile flown, depending on the booking class)?

I'm getting there, slowly.

 

[Danger]

Re: MRe: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

From serious experience on the PER-SIN route

V class earns 0.5 EQM per actual mile and 100% EQP of the earned miles.

So, SYD-PER is 1019 EQM 1019 EQP and as an AA PLT (or EXP) 2038 RDM.
on QF K H and B classes credit 100% EQM to the AA program

Which is why even though I endure the seat reservation issues I now ticket SIN-PER-SIN on the BA codeshares which will credit 100% EQM in almost all economy fare classes.

Happy wandering may or may not be possible with QF

Fred

Oh dear. What is "RDM"? And isn't B in a different earning category to H and K fares for miles qualifying?