A series of Firsts: India and Xi'an, mainly thanks to AFF

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My usual ; pocket Sony DSC HX50V. Its getting a bit old now, but still 30x optical zoom, 100X digital, GPS, 20.4 Mpx.

Current equivalent is HX90V. A$599 Aussie retail, or A$604 if you buy it duty free in Hong Kong (I just checked ;) ). I think you can get it for A$450 on-line.

The pics in my TRs unfortunately are degraded 2 times - first when I take a snipping tool shot of each pair of photos, and then again when they are uploaded to AFF.:(
 
As we had done the Taj the day before, we had a bit of extra time, so we went a bit out of town (= about an hours drive!) to visit another stunning monument, Emperor Akbar's tomb. Its not visited by foreign tourists much because it is out of the way.

This is the gatehouse. As we drove towards it, through the smog, I thought it was the main feature. Nope - just the entry-way. :shock:

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Passing through the gates you are confronted with the tomb of Emperor Akbar. Its bigger than the Taj Mahal!

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Akbar was the third Mughal Emperor, reigning from 1556 to 1605. The tomb is set in large walled gardens - mainly lawns now and a colony of rare deer live there.

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Back to the gatehouse - richly decorated with the usual carved sandstone inlaid with marble.


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The next morning there was a thick fog blanketing Agra - pity anyone who was planning to sightsee anytime this morning. We hit the road back to Delhi.

There has been a good toll road from Delhi to most of the way to Agra for while now, and 3 days before we used it, they opened the final section, :) which hooks into Agra to the east. Previously the expressway stopped short, and there was a tedious last 45mins or so through the old road into Agra. Unfortunately due to the thick fog, we were limited to about 80km/hr for most of the way to Delhi.

For anyone that's wondering, it would be easy to visit the Taj in a day, using the toll road - but I'd strongly advise against it. There is much more to Agra than the Taj Mahal.

Amazingly, they opened the new section before the toll booths were finished :shock:. Along the way there was road house, a good loo stop, although the India roads authority may wish to brush up on its 'weak' spelling. :)

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I was spending the night and the following evening at the Pullman Delhi Aerocity (ie at the airport), as I'd heard good things about it on AFF. My flight to Hong Kong was leaving at 1:30am, so I contacted the hotel to see if I could negotiate a (very, very) 'late' check-out. No problem - they charged me about 1.25x the single night 'members rate', so it was a good deal.

Aerocity is home to a number of hotels - a large Accor Ibis, a Novotel, an 'Aloft' under construction and a Holiday Inn, that I saw, but there are probably others. There is a metro station at Aerocity, so easy to get down, town, although the only tourist sight that's close to a metro station is the Parliament precinct. The others would require a walk/taxi. You can buy a token for a single ride, or a card with value on it, good for multiple trips and top-uppable. The latter is recommended, as queues at the ticket counters at the stations can be very long. I bought a card with 150 rupees on it, cost 200 rupees (A$4) which got me to the Parliament area station and back, with change to spare. You can return the card and get your 50 rupees back, but I didn't bother.

The Pullman is quite a big hotel, and the part of the hotel they assigned me to was apparently only opened recently. I was on the club lounge floor (6th), and the room was really good. Typlicallyof most modern hotels, it had a 'peeping' style bathroom - ie window/open to the bedroom area.

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In spite of my usual (and repeated on check-in) request for a quiet room, they put me in a room probably as close as the hotel could get to the runway, where the jets turn onto the runway to take off. I monitored this for a while and concluded that the triple glazing kept all but the noise from the biggest jets out, and they seemed few nd far between, seeming to usually use the runway on the far side of the airport - so I kept the room.

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The club lounge was actually better (and bigger) than these pics show. A number of comfortable chairs, with power points etc. Within an hour the staff knew my name and wine preferences :)

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Grover Zampa is based in the west and south-west of India and I took a liking to their Sav Blanc. The 'La Reserve' is a cab-sav / shiraz blend and pretty good, too.

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I should mention one other thing I got at the Pullman Aerocity - a fantastic response to an e-mail problem I was having. Like in some other localities previously, I was being blocked form sending e-mails from my 'Bigpond' e-mail account. In Canada, I found that this was usually caused by the office/hotel's ISP blocking all e-mails from Bigpond as spam. I reported this to the hotel, more-or-less for info, as I didn't expect any fix while I was there. Within an hour one of their IT guys had joined me in the lounge. When he couldn't fix it (as I expected), his boss joined us. I convinced them that it was an ISP problem and again, just hoped that they might contact their ISP so the next Bigpond guest may not have the problem. Wong - within an hour, they had contacted their ISP and together came up with a 'work-around' and my e-mails were sending again. That's worth a '5' on Trip Advisor, just in itself! :) :)
 
I should mention one other thing I got at the Pullman Aerocity - a fantastic response to an e-mail problem I was having. Like in some other localities previously, I was being blocked form sending e-mails from my 'Bigpond' e-mail account. In Canada, I found that this was usually caused by the office/hotel's ISP blocking all e-mails from Bigpond as spam. I reported this to the hotel, more-or-less for info, as I didn't expect any fix while I was there. Within an hour one of their IT guys had joined me in the lounge. When he couldn't fix it (as I expected), his boss joined us. I convinced them that it was an ISP problem and again, just hoped that they might contact their ISP so the next Bigpond guest may not have the problem. Wong - within an hour, they had contacted their ISP and together came up with a 'work-around' and my e-mails were sending again. That's worth a '5' on Trip Advisor, just in itself! :) :)

I've often had problems sending email from my Bigpond account when overseas. In the past I would sometimes get a message saying something like: 'not accepting relayed mail'. I don't know what was meant by 'relayed'.

I'm uncertain whether it was because it was a POP account. I could get around it by using Bigpond Webmail but that was quite clunky in the past. I also used an iCloud IMAP account as a method to easily send emails - but, as you know, that can cause problems later when that address either is selected by a sender or auto-filled such that mail starts coming through two accounts and a jumble ensues.

I was hoping now that Bigpond has gone to IMAP-based Telstra Mail the problem should no longer happen - or are you still using POP?
 
Contacted JohnM via e-mail ...

In Delhi, the last place on the tour was Qutb Minar, on its outskirts. Its the second most visited site in India, after the Taj Mahal. Very popular with school groups.

I didn't know what to expect, other than a tall tower. It turned out to be much more than that, and should really be called the Qutb Minar complex, with the earliest component about 1,600 years old.

On the left below is the Qutb Minar proper - a 75m tall brick minaret, the second tallest minaret in the world (tallest is in Afghanistan). Called the Victory Tower, it was built starting in 1192 AD to celebrate the victory of Mohammed Ghori over the Hindu king, Prithviraj Chauhan. This began Islamic rule (the Sultans of Delhi) here, and progressively, in much of India. The Sultans of Delhi, and other similar Islamic rulers gave way to the Islamic Mughal Emperors in the 1500s. The top two stages of the tower were added in the late 1300s, and this was faced with white marble. There are steps inside, but public access was stopped in 1981 after deaths in a stampede after the lights went out.

On the right is the beginning of a 'bigger and better' attempt by Sultan Alauddin Khi, the Alai Minar. Designed to be twice the height of the earlier pillar, the sultan died when only the first stage was completed and his successor didn't share his disregard for cost, so stopped the project!

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Next we move to the tomb of the second Sultan of Delhi, the Tomb of Iltutmish, built in 1235 and originally domed. Architectural fans will note a combination of Islamic and Hindu features. :)

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Next, the Iron Pillar. It was originally erected around 402 at a Hindu temple elsewhere in India, and moved to here in the 10th century. Here it is framed by an arch from the later Quwwat-ul-Islam Mosque. It is somewhat resistant to corrosion due to phosphorus in the metal.


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Great pictures in this report. The Qutb Minar was a real highlight in Delhi for me.
 
Guide said we'd have a look at the Quwwat-ul-Islam Mosque and my ears didn't prick up in the slightest. Now, I've seen plenty of mosques, including the mammoth and very sacred ones in Istanbul and Muscat. Frankly they get a bit monotonous in style and design after a while, although they are commonly quite richly decorated.

This one is different - VERY different and it became one of the highlights of the entire trip.

The Quwwat-ul-Islam Mosque was built in 1192 - the same year as the Qutb Minar giant minaret, and is the oldest mosque on the Indian sub-continent. These were the earliest times of Islam in India (previously Hindu dominated), and as you approach the mosque, it instantly appears 'different' - the highly carved columns for a start.

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In 'strict' Islam I understand (and my understanding is quite shallow!!) living things are not portrayed in or on Mosques. So no depictions of deities, animals, flowers etc. Yet check these out. look at that voluptuous girl on the right, in fact all of 'em!!

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How come? It turns out that there were a number of Hindu temples on this site before the Muslims came, and rather than totally erase the former temples altogether, the new builders re-cycled these columns and a bunch of other building elements into their new mosque! As we saw from Fatehpur Sikri above, even much later there were 'liberal' Islamic Emperors who not only allowed animal/plant decorations, but married Hindus and Christians. However, notice that just like in Fatehpur Sikri, the faces of the people here have been defaced - not destroyed, just vandalised enough to (I suppose) destroy the 'sacred' nature of the depictions. I saw this also in Georgia, where icons and other Christian images in churches had their faces scratched out by later Islamic invaders, but were otherwise left intact.

These are amazing carvings, not only in themselves, but the fact that they have survived for 900-odd years under multiple invasions and rulers.

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This is the sight that we kept saying " RooFlyer would love this " So pleased that you have enjoyed India. Your photos are very similar to mine. Thanks for making us feel as though we are back in India. It has certainly become one of the highlights of all the travel we have done and cannot wait to return.
 
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Let's hope they never discover oil or gas in India then. Wonderful to see antiquities surviving these days - we have lost so many.
 
My usual ; pocket Sony DSC HX50V. Its getting a bit old now, but still 30x optical zoom, 100X digital, GPS, 20.4 Mpx.

Current equivalent is HX90V. A$599 Aussie retail, or A$604 if you buy it duty free in Hong Kong (I just checked ;) ). I think you can get it for A$450 on-line.

I have the HX90V, great camera, I really like using the pop-up viewfinder and now take most of my photos using it rather than using the screen.
 
I have a SonyHV400V for travel.But around Australia I use my old HX300V.I have to use the viewfinder as I once dropped it and the screen is cracked.:oops:

Love the pics but you still haven't convinced mrsdrron.Especially when she read of the 400 road deaths per day in India.
 
I have a SonyHV400V for travel.But around Australia I use my old HX300V.I have to use the viewfinder as I once dropped it and the screen is cracked.:oops:

Love the pics but you still haven't convinced mrsdrron.Especially when she read of the 400 road deaths per day in India.

But the population is 1.25 billion.
 
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Love the pics but you still haven't convinced mrsdrron.Especially when she read of the 400 road deaths per day in India.

Oh, that's a shame mrsdrron!

India has been well down my list of places to visit. These were my reasons, and what I actually found:

* Too hard to find a reliable and good tour/driver - solved by jojen who recommended theirs, and both guide and driver were terrific;

* I'd be overwhelmed by scenes of abject human misery - without denying that this exists in India, what I saw was no different from many third world countries I have visited;

* I'd be swarmed by beggars - certainly not 'swarmed' and abundance and interaction with you no different from many other countries, including Nth America;

* I'd get sick - no worries at all. Standards of hotels (Hilton, Accor) very high.

As for driving etc -I can put my hand on my heart and say in 750km of highway driving, and all through the three cities there was never a sudden application of brakes, a swerve or a 'near miss' :) and I didn't see any accidents. Frankly in the cities you are moving too slow to have a serious accident anyway and on the highways I don't think we got above 80km/hr

Feel free to give it a go mrsdrron :)
 
* I'd get sick - no worries at all. Standards of hotels (Hilton, Accor) very high.

I'd also recommend Travelan... I swear by it. Available at pharmacies - take one tablet before eating and (touch wood) have never been sick when eating in developing countries. That includes ~30 days in India. Still exercise reasonable precautions, but have eaten at a wide variety of eating places and the travelan seems to do what it says on the pack. Travellers Diarrhoea Protection
 
My experience in India was that to really appreciate the people and the beauty of the country, you need to get outside the major cities. Which means you need to be in a car. The Konkan Coast is beautiful.
 
A last look at the Qutb Minar:

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On the right below is Major Smith's folly. After the top of the tower was damaged by lightning in the 1820s, Major Smith was charged with repairing it. Yes, sah! And none of your silly Islamic nonsense! A good old cupola of the Raj! It was so silly sitting on top of the minaret that it was taken down in 1848.


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The Pullman Aerocity is near a metro station that took me downtown for my last day to do a bit of freehand sight-seeing. The airport line is modern and quite efficient. You can either buy a single journey token or a card with value on it to use multiple times.

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Airport line carriages were uncrowded, but inner city ones were packed. All the stations I saw were modern and decently set up (ie shops, ATMs, ticket offices etc)

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A bit more tucker. I webt vego for most of the time, and these were some of the dishes at the Pullman's 'Pluck' restaurant.

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