A suggestion to Qantas and Jet Star

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I dont Hate Kids but they should be segregated

I don't like drunk idiots on the plane. can they be segregated too? your argument is flawed as:

there are children who are well behaved
there are adult PAX who aren't well behaved.
 
*goes off to find popcorn*
There's not enough popcorn in the world to last this debate, so excuse me while I hoard the global supply chain of frozen coke, choc tops, and M&M's.

I'll make sure to send some of it your way notzac.
 
Hosties are not trained to deal with Unrully behaviour that is up to the parents , if the parents wont then segregate them EASY !:cool:

How about we move them into the baggage compartment if they are naughty? :mrgreen:
 
I have travelled enough that I zone out a lot, and children tend to not annoy me. I got more annoyed by misbehaving adults! I am not a parent, but can't help but think how difficult it would be to keep some children entertained and quiet throughout the flight.

However, over time I have observed one thing that can make a huge difference - the attitude and helpfulness of the cabin crew. I have seen complete indifference and downright rudeness from some crew members to passengers with children, and the parent (and usually the worst situation is when just one parent is travelling) is really struggling to cope - just makes it unpleasant for everyone . Other occasions I have some really helpful crew and the situation is so much better for everyone.
 
... and if you dont Mind Noise take a seat at the back dont impose it on the rest...
Why not segregate the last 4 rows of the aircraft as a "quiet" zone for those wanting their localised peace and quiet? People who don't want to be annoyed by noisy kids can select a seat on the Q-seats in the last 4 rows and be assured no kids will be assigned seats there.

Naturally the airlines will want to charge as a Q-zone seating allocation surcharge as these seats will be desirable for some people and surely they will be willing to pay a surcharge just like people choosing to enjoy the benefits of the extra leg-room in an exit row.
 
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Well I travel for work and sometimes am lucky enough to take my kids with me. Lucky for me, for most occasions my kids (age 7 and 4) are great travellers, but on the odd occasion they have had a more 'difficult' flight, having tut tutting cranky passengers glaring at me, just makes the whole situation a lot more stressful, so rather than being sectioned off at the back of the plane near the toilets (most likely having kids woken up by people queueing for the toilets and bumping them etc, increasing the chance of crying and unruly behaviour), I would love a little understanding from my fellow passengers.

I started this post with Just peace and the right to have some quiet on a flight not to get people arking up , Understand, some of us have done our bit in raising kids and while Many parents have conplete control over their Little angels many more dont , when travelling for a long period it is only fair to ask for reasonable behaviour and if you do speak to the parents they tend to let the kids go ever further out of spite and the Hosties Just wont help , not their Job ! as i said spat on and yelled at , someone has to sit at the rear ! parents with Kids !
 
1. Noise cancelling headphones
2. Drink heavily to pass out
3. Medicate to pass out

These are also options to take care of the children. :p

Was flying QF ADL-BNE recently, 2+ hour delay - they swapped our A/C for a broken one with no information filtering through. Allocated row 4 but sat in row 5 for take off with friend, in case someone was taking up the middle seat in 4. After seatbelt light went off was going to move the two of us back to row 4, when random mother with a screamer from the middle of the cabin comes in, takes front row and reclines fully. IFE was also broken. Pretty much a combination of the worst possible things.

Instead of getting angry spent the majority of the flight with my friend in the back galley chatting with the crew, we made them aware of the situation while making it clear we were happy to stand and not make a fuss.

My point is you can't avoid these things, but only take it in your stride. If the plane has a few seats free then ask to move away if it's a big problem - I've asked to move right to the back row to get an aisle to myself when I wasn't the best once. NC headphones help a lot so you've got no excuse without them :)

If we're asking young children so show such restraint then maybe we can ask the same from ourselves from time to time and not let it frustrate us.
 
Hi all,

I have no children (yet;)) and do not really like them that much at the moment but when flying I would put noisy children down around number 5 in the "what I hate on planes" list.

1.People who carry WAY too much luggage on board and expect me to have nothing.
2.Drunk people.
3.Smelly people.(I include those who partake in a bit too much Lynx)
4.Inconsiderate pax who don't consider others.
5.Noisy kids (not babies, they can not be expected to shut up)

ejb
 
Why not segregate the last 4 rows of the aircraft as a "quiet" zone for those wanting their localised peace and quiet? People who don't want to be annoyed by noisy kids can select a seat on the Q-seats in the last 4 rows and be assured no kids will be assigned seats there.

Naturally the airlines will want to charge as a Q-zone seating allocation surcharge as these seats will be desirable for some people and surely they will be willing to pay a surcharge just like people choosing to enjoy the benefits of the extra leg-room in an exit row.


:lol: with My Diving experience I pay for the Exit row as I have the skills to assist should there be the Need (one of the reasons I travel with Jet or Qant )

Im Done here
 
:mad: Almost everytime these days I am seated next to or very near a crying or unruly Child , I believe for safety reasons all Families with young children should be in the rear of the Aircraft , Close to the toilets, Close to the " Large" easy to exit Rear doors,first to get out ! and close to the rear service area,for bottle warming and Chuck buckets , with a curtain as is done with 1st Class ,closing off the last four rows , this would make the main body of the aircraft more comfortable and restful place for some of us who use air travel for work regularly and often over long distances, Its a simple solution to keep Most passagers Happy :D

Riiiiiight... Hmmm. If other pasengers are such an issue, perhaps a chartered aeroplane might be more appropriate than taking public services
 
I started this post with Just peace and the right to have some quiet on a flight not to get people arking up , Understand, some of us have done our bit in raising kids and while Many parents have conplete control over their Little angels many more dont , when travelling for a long period it is only fair to ask for reasonable behaviour and if you do speak to the parents they tend to let the kids go ever further out of spite and the Hosties Just wont help , not their Job ! as i said spat on and yelled at , someone has to sit at the rear ! parents with Kids !

What if the parent has paid for F for the kids, do they still sit in the rear?

If the children are quiet are they allowed forward?

ejb
 
:lol: with My Diving experience I pay for the Exit row as I have the skills to assist should there be the Need (one of the reasons I travel with Jet or Qant )

Im Done here

Hmm... I spose if the aeroplane landed underwater then sub aquatic skills might be useful

Dave
 
Wow, is this rant over yet?

Headphones or latent noise of the aircraft (perhaps it's different in the 380, haven't flown in one yet) seems to turn most crying into background noise. The exception being if they're right next to you.

You could always ask to move. If it's full and the parents are actively engaged with trying to calm the baby, toddler or child down then cop it sweet princess. ;)
 
Let me Be Quite clear here , I am sick of one way Politically correct Nonsense and an Arrogance that Families with kids can have preferance over others , we Are all the same and all have a right to Travel undisturbs should we wish and for that reason alone I made the suggestion , the services they need on Night flights are down the rear of the aircraft so it stands to reason families should be at the rear , I choose to not look at Movies but to rest from a long days work that should be MY RIGHT ! not to have some 5 year old leaning over spitting at me as happen on My last 5 hour flight from Perth , if you say somnething the Hosties look at you as if you are the Big Bad Ogre , they have a first class why Not a Family Class, with Games seats ! ;)

Let me be quite clear here, then as well. This whole paragrph you've written make you sound like a class A hypocrite. We're all equal (the same) except for families travelling who are less the same than you.

someone on here Put it is that Modern Parents learn the Train track syndrome and block out their Kids behavoiur (not the Hostie Job to control them ) leaving them to Annoy others and

If you are referring to my post suggesting that you learn to ignore crying children. That was not a suggestion that i ignore my own child :evil:. I am suggesting that you grow up and learn the skills that lots of other people have; to ignore those other people around you, who are complete strangers, who would be annoying the absolute cough out of you if you weren't ignoring them.

:lol: with My Diving experience I pay for the Exit row as I have the skills to assist should there be the Need (one of the reasons I travel with Jet or Qant )

Im Done here
Wow, I'm glad I read a bit more of this thread to see this gem. Matey I've actually been in life threaten situations and have actually helped to rescue (and self rescue) people and we all managed to live. Therefore I have more right then you (but we are all the same) to be sitting in that exit row. So get out of it. :p

:lol

BTW call me when you have kids of your own. Then we can talk as equals......
 
BTW call me when you have kids of your own. Then we can talk as equals......

To be fair, in an earlier post he did say he raised 2 children on his own. Don't know if they did any flying as a family though..... ;)

Like most people here who fly regularly, you get all types of people and age groups who behave inappropriately. If it's bothering you, politely ask the person/parent/partner to do something to change the behaviour; if that doesn't work ask the crew if you can be seated somewhere else. :)

If none of the above work, then sometimes you just need to eat a teaspoon of cement and HTFU. :lol:
 
*goes off to find popcorn*

That was a good idea.

There's not enough popcorn in the world to last this debate, so excuse me while I hoard the global supply chain of frozen coke, choc tops, and M&M's.

I'll make sure to send some of it your way notzac.

I ate some chocolate chip cookies as I read through.

Why not segregate the last 4 rows of the aircraft as a "quiet" zone for those wanting their localised peace and quiet? People who don't want to be annoyed by noisy kids can select a seat on the Q-seats in the last 4 rows and be assured no kids will be assigned seats there.

Naturally the airlines will want to charge as a Q-zone seating allocation surcharge as these seats will be desirable for some people and surely they will be willing to pay a surcharge just like people choosing to enjoy the benefits of the extra leg-room in an exit row.

That sounds like a great idea right there, you just watch your idea be taken and used without credit now ;)

Understand, some of us have done our bit in raising kids and while Many parents have conplete control over their Little angels many more dont , when travelling for a long period it is only fair to ask for reasonable behaviour and if you do speak to the parents they tend to let the kids go ever further out of spite

So your beef is with other parents then. Don’t be afraid to let them know how you feel, I would if a child was misbehaving around me and the parent wasn’t acting on it.

Im Done here

So, you came here to rant about a recent bad experience, were shot down by nearly everyone (maybe everyone) and are now moving on to another forum to stir the pot there?

Awesome! :rolleyes:

Wow, is this rant over yet?

Thankfully I think so.
 
Let me be quite clear here, then as well. This whole paragrph you've written make you sound like a class A hypocrite. We're all equal (the same) except for families travelling who are less the same than you.



If you are referring to my post suggesting that you learn to ignore crying children. That was not a suggestion that i ignore my own child :evil:. I am suggesting that you grow up and learn the skills that lots of other people have; to ignore those other people around you, who are complete strangers, who would be annoying the absolute cough out of you if you weren't ignoring them.


Wow, I'm glad I read a bit more of this thread to see this gem. Matey I've actually been in life threaten situations and have actually helped to rescue (and self rescue) people and we all managed to live. Therefore I have more right then you (but we are all the same) to be sitting in that exit row. So get out of it. :p

:lol

BTW call me when you have kids of your own. Then we can talk as equals......

Original post was way too confrontational (is that a real word?) but aquaman69 has got to have been extracting the urine, cant see anyone being against kids/parents/families to that extent.
 
That sounds like a great idea right there, you just watch your idea be taken and used without credit now ;)
Yeah, the story of my life! First there was my idea that slicing bread at the bakery would be helpful, then there was the idea of metric measurement for time, followed by the idea that light is the absence of darkness and the idea that gravity ... well you get the idea.

At least this week Mini#3 came home with the same science project that Mini#2 had a few years ago, so for once I could recycle an idea and look like a genius :cool:

I think its time for another move for this thread to a new home :-|
 
Almost everyone here needs to take a step back and look at how they reacted to a first time poster and how he got flamed beyond belief.

I am almost ashamed to be involved with a group of people who wont allow a person to have his say (regardless how absurd it is) without bordering insulting or offering anything apart from insults to what he found to be a disturbing event - his flight ex PER.

Absolute disgrace

munitalP
 
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