A super short and roundabout trip to Tokyo via the Middle East and Europe in (mostly) F

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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

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This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!
 
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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

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This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!

Bring it on :cool:🍾🥂✈️
 
Oh look, Lucky from OMAAT has joined AFF to report on one of his trips… 😁

Criteria:
- Lots of J and F ✅
- Only seeing the sky from airline, airport and hotel windows ✅
- No real destination ✅
- Writing about it to the only audience that understands ✅
To be fair I am spending a day in Tokyo so I will have a destination of sorts for the trip :p
 
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Actually, I do have some genuine questions:
- are there any of the connections where you don’t know you’ll be able to immediately re-check in, or remain airside and access lounges immediately on arrival having done online check in?
- Other than Japan, which countries do you know you’ll have to be entering? (either because you’ll be spat out landside on arrival, or because a terminal transfer will take you landside)
-NH889?
 
Actually, I do have some genuine questions:
- are there any of the connections where you don’t know you’ll be able to immediately re-check in, or remain airside and access lounges immediately on arrival having done online check in?
- Other than Japan, which countries do you know you’ll have to be entering? (either because you’ll be spat out landside on arrival, or because a terminal transfer will take you landside)
-NH889?
Good pickup! It should be NH889 - must've just gotten really excited typing it in.

So I'm doing hco so I don't have to worry about luggage getting checked through - because they're all separate tickets I'm not sure if I would be able to get them checked through interline.
I'm hoping I won't have to enter any of the countries, online check-in is possible I think for all flights but they likely won't give me a boarding pass. I'm hoping there'll be a transit counter I can go to to get my BPs, worst case hopefully at the lounge.

I'm not planning on entering any other countries but annoyingly the UK requires that ETA thing even for transit, but i got that in about 20 mins and $20 so not the end of the world. To be fair we charge everyone to visit so I guess they're just repaying the favour.
 
And first flight down - and a small hiccup to the grand journey already.

CBR-SYD
QF804
1317-1410 dur. 53m
Seat 1F

Pretty much an empty flight - only 5 people in J and no one next to me. The CBR J lounge was ok, nothing special. Only onboard meal option was the classic beef pie with pea mash. Not terrible, went decently with a 2021 Cab Sav.

So where did things start to go wrong?

On arrival, I zoomed over to Gate 15 for the international transfer, chortling to myself and thinking "this isn't my first rodeo, I can practically taste the squid in the Flounge!" I had done online check-in the night before, but the app said I wasn't able to get a boarding pass and to go to a check-in counter. "No biggie", I thought to myself, "I'll still be able to cut the line so it'll just add a few minutes to my trip". It was only when I got to the international terminal that I remembered... "hang on, most airlines don't open check-in until 3hrs before... my flight isn't till 21:40 and it's 14:30..."

With sinking heart I approached the QR check-in counter and unsurprisingly there was no one there. Rats! I knew that I wouldn't be able to get QF or even VA to give me my BP because I had to go to the operating carrier - a fact I had read and probably parrotted on forums time and time before, and now I was to be victim of this circumstance! The irony.

In a last ditch attempt (and also because I had ample time to spare), I went over to the QF Platinum check-in and asked if there was anything they could do. Whilst the staff were sympathetic, they confirmed I would have to wait until the QR check-in opened and politely suggested that I could wait in the food court just around the corner...

The infintesimally small (actually maybe not that small) blessing for me was that because I had flown CBR-SYD I could use the lounge after arrival thanks to my status. So after taking the train back to the domestic terminal, I made my way to the J lounge and grabbed a seat where I am currently writing this update. Hey, it beats the alternative... and maybe it was a good thing I didn'e take the train which would still have gotten me to the airport at around 1600 and still too early to check-in but with nowhere else to go.

I don't know if there is a time limit on being able to enter the lounge post-flight because there was a small issue with my flight not appearing when I scanned my FF card, but I just confirmed with the front desk the flight times and got waved through.

So... was this avoidable? Probably not - I wouldn't have been able to find an award flight through VA from CBR-SYD-DOH-AUH which would be the only way to remedy this because then I could get a BP in CBR.

Will this be a recurring issue given my separate tickets? Hopefully not. I will be able to get my onwards BP to AUH on check-in as this was all booked as one ticket. Hopefully the fact I'm airside in AUH in EY's biggest hub means I'll be able to find a transit counter and explain the situation. Worst case, I leave and have to go landside, but again, banking on the fact that it's their main hub I hope that they won't have as strict check-in limitations and I'll be able to do anytime check-in like QF has in Sydney.

I should be ok for LHR-CDG-HND because it's all one ticket.

So, not the best start to the trip but not a war stopper... I guess I just won't get a massage in the FLounge but the champagne will be all the sweeter!
 
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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

View attachment 424637
This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!
Beyond insane, love it!!
 
So after a bit of cooling of heels in the J lounge I went back to the international terminal and thankfully the counters were open - over 3.5hrs before the flight. Got my boarding pass for both the flight to doh and onwards to auh, and after a bit of confusion over the ETA (when the agent asked for my London ETA I assumed estimated time of arrival 😂) but after that it was smooth sailing.

No issue getting into the qf Flounge. I mentioned to the host I was P1 and was escorted over the roped area - so this is how the other half live! - and presented with the menu. I've ordered the trout sashimi and minute steak with champagne (Lallier 2019) and a Penfolds. Unfortunately there was nothing special in the decanter today :(

And in a change from the regular pav, a tiramisu for dessert.
 

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On arrival, I zoomed over to Gate 15 for the international transfer, chortling to myself and thinking "this isn't my first rodeo, I can practically taste the squid in the Flounge!" I had done online check-in the night before, but the app said I wasn't able to get a boarding pass and to go to a check-in counter. "No biggie", I thought to myself, "I'll still be able to cut the line so it'll just add a few minutes to my trip". It was only when I got to the international terminal that I remembered... "hang on, most airlines don't open check-in until 3hrs before... my flight isn't till 21:40 and it's 14:30..."
Now you see why I asked the question about this in post #8.
It didn’t make sense to me why you didn’t just take a later Dash8 flight (it’s only 40mins in whY…) to make the SYD connection shorter, but then I assumed you’d sorted out a way to get your QR boarding pass via online check-in.

Let’s hope the new AUH set up has an international transfer point, but even worst case scenario their check in is always staffed so you’d be able to exit landside then immediately turn around and check in for the LHR flight.

LHR and BA may be the same situation as AUH.
 

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