A super short and roundabout trip to Tokyo via the Middle East and Europe in (mostly) F

PrezRegan

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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

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This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!
 
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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

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This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!

Bring it on :cool:🍾🥂✈️
 
Actually, I do have some genuine questions:
- are there any of the connections where you don’t know you’ll be able to immediately re-check in, or remain airside and access lounges immediately on arrival having done online check in?
- Other than Japan, which countries do you know you’ll have to be entering? (either because you’ll be spat out landside on arrival, or because a terminal transfer will take you landside)
-NH889?
 
Actually, I do have some genuine questions:
- are there any of the connections where you don’t know you’ll be able to immediately re-check in, or remain airside and access lounges immediately on arrival having done online check in?
- Other than Japan, which countries do you know you’ll have to be entering? (either because you’ll be spat out landside on arrival, or because a terminal transfer will take you landside)
-NH889?
Good pickup! It should be NH889 - must've just gotten really excited typing it in.

So I'm doing hco so I don't have to worry about luggage getting checked through - because they're all separate tickets I'm not sure if I would be able to get them checked through interline.
I'm hoping I won't have to enter any of the countries, online check-in is possible I think for all flights but they likely won't give me a boarding pass. I'm hoping there'll be a transit counter I can go to to get my BPs, worst case hopefully at the lounge.

I'm not planning on entering any other countries but annoyingly the UK requires that ETA thing even for transit, but i got that in about 20 mins and $20 so not the end of the world. To be fair we charge everyone to visit so I guess they're just repaying the favour.
 
And first flight down - and a small hiccup to the grand journey already.

CBR-SYD
QF804
1317-1410 dur. 53m
Seat 1F

Pretty much an empty flight - only 5 people in J and no one next to me. The CBR J lounge was ok, nothing special. Only onboard meal option was the classic beef pie with pea mash. Not terrible, went decently with a 2021 Cab Sav.

So where did things start to go wrong?

On arrival, I zoomed over to Gate 15 for the international transfer, chortling to myself and thinking "this isn't my first rodeo, I can practically taste the squid in the Flounge!" I had done online check-in the night before, but the app said I wasn't able to get a boarding pass and to go to a check-in counter. "No biggie", I thought to myself, "I'll still be able to cut the line so it'll just add a few minutes to my trip". It was only when I got to the international terminal that I remembered... "hang on, most airlines don't open check-in until 3hrs before... my flight isn't till 21:40 and it's 14:30..."

With sinking heart I approached the QR check-in counter and unsurprisingly there was no one there. Rats! I knew that I wouldn't be able to get QF or even VA to give me my BP because I had to go to the operating carrier - a fact I had read and probably parrotted on forums time and time before, and now I was to be victim of this circumstance! The irony.

In a last ditch attempt (and also because I had ample time to spare), I went over to the QF Platinum check-in and asked if there was anything they could do. Whilst the staff were sympathetic, they confirmed I would have to wait until the QR check-in opened and politely suggested that I could wait in the food court just around the corner...

The infintesimally small (actually maybe not that small) blessing for me was that because I had flown CBR-SYD I could use the lounge after arrival thanks to my status. So after taking the train back to the domestic terminal, I made my way to the J lounge and grabbed a seat where I am currently writing this update. Hey, it beats the alternative... and maybe it was a good thing I didn'e take the train which would still have gotten me to the airport at around 1600 and still too early to check-in but with nowhere else to go.

I don't know if there is a time limit on being able to enter the lounge post-flight because there was a small issue with my flight not appearing when I scanned my FF card, but I just confirmed with the front desk the flight times and got waved through.

So... was this avoidable? Probably not - I wouldn't have been able to find an award flight through VA from CBR-SYD-DOH-AUH which would be the only way to remedy this because then I could get a BP in CBR.

Will this be a recurring issue given my separate tickets? Hopefully not. I will be able to get my onwards BP to AUH on check-in as this was all booked as one ticket. Hopefully the fact I'm airside in AUH in EY's biggest hub means I'll be able to find a transit counter and explain the situation. Worst case, I leave and have to go landside, but again, banking on the fact that it's their main hub I hope that they won't have as strict check-in limitations and I'll be able to do anytime check-in like QF has in Sydney.

I should be ok for LHR-CDG-HND because it's all one ticket.

So, not the best start to the trip but not a war stopper... I guess I just won't get a massage in the FLounge but the champagne will be all the sweeter!
 
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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

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This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!
Beyond insane, love it!!
 
So after a bit of cooling of heels in the J lounge I went back to the international terminal and thankfully the counters were open - over 3.5hrs before the flight. Got my boarding pass for both the flight to doh and onwards to auh, and after a bit of confusion over the ETA (when the agent asked for my London ETA I assumed estimated time of arrival 😂) but after that it was smooth sailing.

No issue getting into the qf Flounge. I mentioned to the host I was P1 and was escorted over the roped area - so this is how the other half live! - and presented with the menu. I've ordered the trout sashimi and minute steak with champagne (Lallier 2019) and a Penfolds. Unfortunately there was nothing special in the decanter today :(

And in a change from the regular pav, a tiramisu for dessert.
 

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On arrival, I zoomed over to Gate 15 for the international transfer, chortling to myself and thinking "this isn't my first rodeo, I can practically taste the squid in the Flounge!" I had done online check-in the night before, but the app said I wasn't able to get a boarding pass and to go to a check-in counter. "No biggie", I thought to myself, "I'll still be able to cut the line so it'll just add a few minutes to my trip". It was only when I got to the international terminal that I remembered... "hang on, most airlines don't open check-in until 3hrs before... my flight isn't till 21:40 and it's 14:30..."
Now you see why I asked the question about this in post #8.
It didn’t make sense to me why you didn’t just take a later Dash8 flight (it’s only 40mins in whY…) to make the SYD connection shorter, but then I assumed you’d sorted out a way to get your QR boarding pass via online check-in.

Let’s hope the new AUH set up has an international transfer point, but even worst case scenario their check in is always staffed so you’d be able to exit landside then immediately turn around and check in for the LHR flight.

LHR and BA may be the same situation as AUH.
 
Yeah it was an oversight on my end - there was actually a later flight that got me in around 1800 which I think I'd take next time but I will chalk this one up to a learning experience! I'm still pretty new to this game
Now you see why I asked the question about this in post #8.
It didn’t make sense to me why you didn’t just take a later Dash8 flight (it’s only 40mins in whY…) to make the SYD connection shorter, but then I assumed you’d sorted out a way to get your QR boarding pass via online check-in.

Let’s hope the new AUH set up has an international transfer point, but even worst case scenario their check in is always staffed so you’d be able to exit landside then immediately turn around and check in for the LHR flight.

LHR and BA may be the same situation as AUH.
 
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I'm writing this update in the air with about 4hr left to Doha, thanks to the complimentary 200mb of internet Qatar gives its F passengers.

Boarding was a bit of a cluster, with no proper lines set up for business. There was just one flustered gate agent trying to sort a few hundred people, and more and more passengers were showing up. I was lumped with the J pax and I think everyone who had status but was flying y was just told to join the back of the y queue. Thankfully because I'd arrived early (the board in the lounge hadn't said boarding yet) the J queue wasn't too long and I think it was only a 10min wait to get onboard. I overheard one of the agents say they were short staffed due to an immigration software issue so that might explain.

Despite this I don't think we were overly delayed for pushback. On boarding I was shown my seat and offered a predeparture beverage of champagne (Tattinger comtes 2013) which came in a very generous pour, along with some olives and cheese. Arabic coffee and dates were also offered after. I was offered a menu and first choice of the meals, but I advised the CSM, Daisy, that my plan was to sleep straight away and would eat later as qr offers dine on demand. I made sure to place my order before takeoff as i suspected some items might prove more popular.

As soon as we reached altitude and the seatbelt sign came off another FA appeared with the bedding handy and pyjamas. I ducked into the lav to get changed while she made the bed - wow there might not be a shower but it's a pretty impressive bathroom nonetheless - and proceeded to get a very solid 8hrs of sleep, despite some minor turbulence and cabin noise. QR's f suites might not be visually impressive - i feel a bit exposed in it - but their bedding is top notch.

On awakening after a very solid 8hrs of sleep I commenced dinner which I'm about halfway through. The food is... Ok. Definitely nothing near CX or JL levels, it seems to be J but with caviar. Pics to follow as I get the dishes - please excuse the moody lighting, the cabin is still dimmed for sleep. I'll probably upload them in the lounge as it'll chew through what remains of my in-flight data cap.

I highly rate the inflight lounge, made a new friend whilst there and also had a great time chatting to the staff at the bar.

On arrival I went to the J lounge to chill before commencing a long walk around the terminals for something to do. I will end up at the f lounge, it might just be a while given how much time I have to kill. I went on an adventure to the platinum lounge in Doha and it's not bad! Pretty quiet, and a very similar offering to what's in the J lounge.
 

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Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:

Itinerary
DATEROUTEFLIGHTCLASSPOINTS PROGRAM
09 JAN 13:25 - 09 JAN 14:20CBR-SYDQF804J 18,400QF
09 JAN 21:40 - 10 JAN 04:50SYD-DOHQR909F 152,500VA
10 JAN 14:15 - 10 JAN 16:25DOH-AUHQR1050F (J)--
11 JAN 02:40 - 11 JAN 06:45AUH-LHREY61F 78,000VA
11 JAN10:55 - 11 JAN 13:20LHR-CDGBA328J 20,000QF
11 JAN 17:15 - 12 JAN 14:45CDG-HNDJL46F 149,800QF
14 JAN 08:35 - 14 JAN 20:15HND-SYDNH8999J 78,000VA
15 JAN 08:40 - 15 JAN 09:35SYD-CBRQF801J 18,400QF

View attachment 424637
This is a wild trip so strap in... as you can see I'm not actually doing a stopover anywhere until I get to Japan. The catalyst for this journey was a post I stumbled across on Facebook saying that there was a drop of EY F availability from AUH to Europe this week, coupled with the reminder that they would shortly be getting the boot from the EY/VA partnership thanks to their new deal with Qatar. EY F is something I've always wanted to try so I thought I might as well see what I can do.

Booking this was a rollercoaster of emotions for the three days that I looked at this - availability for the AUH-Europe flights fluctuated daily, I couldn't find flights back into Aus, availability for the AUH-Europe would appear but the dates would mean I'd have to have 2 days in AUH (which I was not keen for), man it was not fun and each day I thought I should just give up.

For me, the no-go criteria for this trip was either not managing to find a flight back to Aus, or not being able to get F availability from AUH-Europe - after all that was the whole point of this trip. With QR's partnership and my stash of Avios I figured I could always fly QR later, so whilst it was great to get that availability in F I wasn't prepared to fly in a circle just for that one, and I'd already done JL F in my last trip. At one point I did consider even booking EK from DXB to Europe and then from Europe to America to get back home via SFO, but I didn't want to pay a lot of taxes and points to fly EK F (as good as it is) and I also didn't want the trip to take ages.

Well, my persistence paid off. As suspected ANA was only releasing availability one day at a time and that got me the final piece of getting back into Aus. Whilst I would've preferred to fly back the next day after arriving into HND, the only option was Y, so I bit the bullet and waited a day. Miraculously, an AUH-LHR EY flight also appeared on the day I wanted so I wouldn't have to do a stopover in AUH. With both these conditions met, I pulled the trigger and booked it. The outbound flight from SYD-AUH was a bit of a wild card I didn't expect to see from QR, as there was no availability from AUS-DOH on that day. This is also a massive first world problem but I also wanted to experience QSuites before doing F, but ah well I'm sure I will recover :p

The ticketing is a bit messy - every VA flight is booked as a separate ticket with the QF CBR-SYD return and the LHR-CDG-HND also separate. Really hope nothing goes wrong but I've left lots of time between flights.

This review is (obviously) going to be very heavily skewed towards the flight and lounge experience. I'm really keen to see EY and QR F as well as ANA J. Also looking forward to spending a stupidly long amount of time in the Al Safwa First Lounge in Doha and the EY F Lounge in AUH.

In terms of hotels, I've booked the Hotel Indigo Tokyo Shibuya [it has a small gym] using my stash of IHG points - getting almost a cent of value per point so a (very very small) win - and I've booked the Rydges in Sydney airport through QF hotels, using a voucher to get it down to a very reasonable $175.

I plan on eating my weight in caviar and champagne, and walking a lot in the airport. I have a dinner planned for Tokyo but not much else... I will probably be sleeping for the day I think!

Looking forward to this @PrezRegan - enjoy ✈️
 
Someday I'll think of a more creative title for my trips :rolleyes:
ChatGP suggests "Caviar, Champagne, and Circling the Globe: My First-Class Tokyo Adventure with Detours and Drama"

On board for the ride too. As you're Canberra based, you'll have to provide a 'social' presentation at dinner with us other Ken Behrens
 
Re trip report titles, how about:

- Disney claims it has the happiest place in the world, I’m out to challenge that!
(actually, no, sounds like something that youtuber Noel would say)

- Turning points into experiences - quickly!
 
DOH-AUH
QR909
14:10-15:24 dur. 1h 10m

A short but pleasant flight from DOH-AUH. Boarding was quick, the CSM was very polite and efficient and offered everyone a predeparture drink whilst also taking food orders. There was an option of Lamb kebbeh or spinach and feta pastry, followed by an almond tart for dessert. As I was quite full from lunch in the Al Safwa lounge I didn't have anything. Pics below are from the lounge and also the orchard, a section of the airport which has a bit of greenery. I did also check out the platinum lounge and the al majouran business lounges, both were pleasant but the al safwa lounge is definitely the place to be.

Transitting through AUH was pretty seamless. I was able to get an electronic boarding pass on check-in with Etihad. The lounge here is massive, across three floors with a small section at the top for the First lounge. I was able to find the relaxation rooms and had a 5hr sleep. Now sitting in the F Lounge contemplating dinner and a shower. Still have 3hrs to kill...
 

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