A330 - XFA/B - Refit?

[Jousams]

When will they have enough new a330's to get rid of XFA&B?

 

[MarkD]

Whats with all the whinging about these two aircraft. There is nothing wrong with them. Much prefer them to 737s. If you are that bothered about the chance of getting one of these, fly Jetstar or Tiger. It really is getting boring guys, some of you are worse than old whinging women in the nursing home

 

[maninblack]

Whats with all the whinging about these two aircraft. There is nothing wrong with them. Much prefer them to 737s. If you are that bothered about the chance of getting one of these, fly Jetstar or Tiger. It really is getting boring guys, some of you are worse than old whinging women in the nursing home

That's right. Shut up granny and eat your gruel.

 

[moa999]

The day an airline doesn't have inconsistent product is the day Boeing or Airbus can deliver 10 aircraft on the day you order them

 

[drewbles]

Whats with all the whinging about these two aircraft. There is nothing wrong with them. Much prefer them to 737s. If you are that bothered about the chance of getting one of these, fly Jetstar or Tiger. It really is getting boring guys, some of you are worse than old whinging women in the nursing home

If you flew them as often as some of us do, you'd understand.

VA sell the 'premium' coast-to-coast service to people, and then deliver A/B.

If you don't like it, by all means, don't read the thread.

The sooner A/B go, the better. EK worked these birds *hard*. There's a good reason that VA have so many issues with them (due to them being worked so hard).

 

[MarkD]

If you flew them as often as some of us do, you'd understand.

VA sell the 'premium' coast-to-coast service to people, and then deliver A/B.

If you don't like it, by all means, don't read the thread.

The sooner A/B go, the better. EK worked these birds *hard*. There's a good reason that VA have so many issues with them (due to them being worked so hard).

Oh, so my opinion is different to yours so I should <go away> Get real man, there is nothing wrong with them, I have flown on these older ones probably 20 times out of the last 40 on Virgin A330s, in economy nearly every time and dont have an issue. The trouble around here is some of you people <like to be> whinging and moaning.
Obviously my 100 odd sectors last year on domestic flights (around 50 on A330s, both QF and VA) is nothing compared to what you do, ... . I find the A330s that you are sulking about more comfortable than ANY 737 A320 or any QF A330, (In economy because as you implied, Im just a <member> who doesnt fly much)
<lets lighten up>, Its a bloody aeroplane.

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[drewbles]

Oh, so my opinion is different to yours so I should <go away> Get real man, there is nothing wrong with them, I have flown on these older ones probably 20 times out of the last 40 on Virgin A330s, in economy nearly every time and dont have an issue. The trouble around here is some of you people <like to be> whinging and moaning.
Obviously my 100 odd sectors last year on domestic flights (around 50 on A330s, both QF and VA) is nothing compared to what you do, ... . I find the A330s that you are sulking about more comfortable than ANY 737 A320 or any QF A330, (In economy because as you implied, Im just a <member> who doesnt fly much)
<lets lighten up>, Its a bloody aeroplane.

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As I said if you don't like reading peoples thoughts and issues with an offering, please feel free to not read them. Everyone has a right to express their opinion. I never abused you nor meant to be condescending.

It's a public forum last time I checked, and I'm not the only one who dislikes these birds.

Oh and I'd rather a VA 737 in economy any day over A/B.

Perhaps you're the one who needs to "get real" if all you want to do is pick others thoughts apart in such a <...> manner.

 

[serfty]

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It's a public forum last time I checked, and I'm not the only one who dislikes these birds.

Oh and I'd rather a VA 737 in economy any day over A/B. ...

With business seating, I would prefer the that of a VA 332 XFC/D/E/F... over XFA/B over QF 332 (international) over QF 333 over QF 332 over any 737.

But that's me - those who are large in stature may indeed find XFA/B business seats rather narrow, exacerbated by the remote control stowage being in a rather silly location.


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[eastwest101]

With business seating, I would prefer the that of a VA 332 XFC/D/E/F... over XFA/B over QF 332 (international) over QF 333 over QF 332 over any 737.

But that's me - those who are large in stature may indeed find XFA/B business seats rather narrow, exacerbated by the remote control stowage being in a rather silly location.

Thats pretty much my opinion as well serfty with the possible addition of:

With business seating, I would prefer the that of a VA 332 XFC/D/E/F... over XFA/B over QF 332 (international) over QF 333 over QFi B763 over QFd B763 over QF 332 over any 737.

With economy seating - any widebody over a narrowbody anyday but Y products pretty similar between VA and QF and not as many variations/combinations/permutations and discrepencies and rouge aircraft as the J class cabins.

 

[JackScottAU]

Hi all,

Just wanted to say thanks for all the great info in this thread. My partner and I are flying VA691 (MEL->PER) tomorrow in economy and back on the 11th (VA686) in business and knowing which aircraft we are likely to be on is a great help - mostly when it comes to planning battery usage, since VA's site seems to indicate the new planes have seat power and the older ones don't.

For people like myself who only fly business once in a blue moon (it's a real treat!) whichever plane we're on we are going to be happy, but forward knowledge of what to expect is always appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Bofter]

Looks like you have either XFA or XFB tomorrow for VA691

 

[Melburnian1]

Could AFFer JackScottAU please confirm which aircraft he had? Was it the dreaded A or B?

 

[MarkD]

Why does it matter?

 

[Bofter]

It looks like XFA

VH-XFA

 

[Kieran2274]

Having flown the MEL-PER-MEL sectors often with VA, each time in J, I have ample experience with both A332 fitouts. The ex-EK tin does make me feel like a giant (both in seat width and height) but everything else is pretty much the same - especially since I've always been able to get a Galaxy pad when on XFA/B.

Of note, it's rare for me to find XFA/B awaiting me at the gate, and it's easily avoidable if you check the seating plan (which on Virgin's website, you see before you actually pay for the flight). If you get no advanced seating available message, you can always ring the call centre to confirm/deny scheduled aircraft seat map (if it's 2-3-2 its XFA/B).

i don't bother avoiding as it doesn't work me up that much - it's just a minor nuisance (if you ask me PER airport security is more a pain in the butt than XFA/B lol).

i do understand, from chats with the FAs, that no retro-fit of XFA/B is planned to the new Coast to Coast A332 seating but then it isn't planned to hold onto XFA/B longer than necessary either.

Given that XFA/B has considerably longer legroom than the other A332s, beanpoles may even be thankful for that (and hey, it makes me feel tall, if nothing else lol!). For those who aren't fans, don't get too worked up about it, as until Qantas puts in its 1-2-1 J layout there really isn't any better alternatives to Virgin's Coast to Coast product.

 

[drewbles]

Of note, it's rare for me to find XFA/B awaiting me at the gate, and it's easily avoidable if you check the seating plan (which on Virgin's website, you see before you actually pay for the flight). If you get no advanced seating available message, you can always ring the call centre to confirm/deny scheduled aircraft seat map (if it's 2-3-2 its XFA/B).

Although happening less frequently (as they now have 7 A330's), equipment changes happen pretty often still. It's not at all uncommon to have a 2-2-2 on EF/VA's site, only to have 2-3-2 waiting for you upon boarding. Conversely the same is true (have been scheduled to fly on A/B several times upon leaving for the airport, to arrive to a 2-2-2 config).

 

[Kieran2274]

Although happening less frequently (as they now have 7 A330's), equipment changes happen pretty often still.

I've not had an aircraft change on VA yet (QF yes, the A388 to 744 a couple of times ), but if I did hate XFA/B and I got it as an a/c change I probably could just opt to stay in PER until next flight service (I'd have to really loathe it though, for that!). I stick to flexible bookings though.

A/c changes, Acts of God, just the wrong flight crew, etc are just the uncontrollable events of life. With these events I try to go with the flow, as otherwise you just build yourself to a coronary :shock:.

 

[drewbles]

I've not had an aircraft change on VA yet (QF yes, the A388 to 744 a couple of times ), but if I did hate XFA/B and I got it as an a/c change I probably could just opt to stay in PER until next flight service (I'd have to really loathe it though, for that!). I stick to flexible bookings though.

A/c changes, Acts of God, just the wrong flight crew, etc are just the uncontrollable events of life. With these events I try to go with the flow, as otherwise you just build yourself to a coronary :shock:.

Oh I always do. I travel in the US a lot during winter. irrops are par for the course (and can end up with some very interesting routings to get around nasty weather!)

 

[Kieran2274]

I travel in the US a lot during winter. irrops are par for the course

You had me at "I travel in the US a lot" drewbles - they don't call it the home of the brave (and the travel-hardened) for nothing

Always amazes me how one of the largest RPT aviation markets is also the most chaotic!

 

[jneufeld]

I've not had an aircraft change on VA yet (QF yes, the A388 to 744 a couple of times ), but if I did hate XFA/B and I got it as an a/c change I probably could just opt to stay in PER until next flight service (I'd have to really loathe it though, for that!). I stick to flexible bookings though.

A/c changes, Acts of God, just the wrong flight crew, etc are just the uncontrollable events of life. With these events I try to go with the flow, as otherwise you just build yourself to a coronary :shock:.

Flying SYD-PER return over Xmas I had A332's both ways subbed for 737s, really bad luck and very sad considering I was in J.