AA's Admirals Club 30-day Membership: QF lounge access?

[MEL_Traveller]

Just to add... it looks like it is indeed the case?

Eligibility and Access to The Qantas Club Lounges | Qantas

Access to AAdmirals Clubs is ONLY on the basis that you have a QF or JQ flight number on your ticket? This seems inconsistent with other wording which says access to AA lounges is available when flying AA (no QF flight number).

However - Partner Lounges (AAdmirals Clubs) are still listed under the benefits section of Qantas Club.

Partner Lounges
When travelling with American Airlines, as a Qantas Club member you and a guest are welcome at American Airlines Admirals Club lounges. Simply present your Qantas Club card together with your boarding pass at the lounge reception. Both you and your guest need to be travelling together further that day on a flight marketed^ and operated by the partner airline whose lounge you wish to visit.
Qantas Club Members will be welcomed at the Emirates Business Lounge in Dubai when their next onwards flight that day is with Qantas.
When travelling from London, Qantas Club Members will have access to the American Airlines Admirals Lounge at London Heathrow when their next onwards flight that day is with Qantas between Australia, Dubai and London.

Confusing!

I suspect from an ACCC perspective, the 'benefits' section overrules the rules later on.

 

[lc_461]

So would you still be able to access say the BNE Qantas Club (Intl) travelling to LAX on a QF ticket? -- The flight/QF15 is AA marketed but my ticket would be QF stock.

 

[serfty]

So would you still be able to access say the BNE Qantas Club (Intl) travelling to LAX on a QF ticket? -- The flight/QF15 is AA marketed but my ticket would be QF stock.

Ticket number¹ is irrelevant; it's the flight number that matters.

AA have the codeshare AA7380 on QF15 - your eTicket needs to show AA7380.

¹ 001-... for AA, 081-... for QF

 

[lc_461]

So I would need to buy the AA7380 flight, I can't just be a passenger on AA7380 with a ticket for QF15? It seems ambiguous -- it says have to be:

• Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on an American Airlines operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas

So I would be on an American marketed flight, just not ticketed on it...

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So I would need to buy the AA7380 flight, I can't just be a passenger on AA7380 with a ticket for QF15? It seems ambiguous -- it says have to be:



So I would be on an American marketed flight, just not ticketed on it...

An AA marketed flight means one that is sold to you by American Airlines, and carries an American Airlines flight number.

So you'd need to jump on the AA website (or online agency etc) and buy a ticket for AA7380 (which in this case happens to be operated by a Qantas plane).

Just because the plane you are flying on happens to have two (or sometimes more) flight numbers (for example AA7380 and QF15), doesn't mean in itself you are on an AA marketed flight.

It must directly relate to a positive act, by you as the passenger, to be travelling under the AA flight number.

 

[lc_461]

Okay that makes sense, thanks.

 

[Kangol]

An AA marketed flight means one that is sold to you by American Airlines, and carries an American Airlines flight number.

So you'd need to jump on the AA website (or online agency etc) and buy a ticket for AA7380 (which in this case happens to be operated by a Qantas plane).

Just because the plane you are flying on happens to have two (or sometimes more) flight numbers (for example AA7380 and QF15), doesn't mean in itself you are on an AA marketed flight.

It must directly relate to a positive act, by you as the passenger, to be travelling under the AA flight number.

I'm pretty sure QF will not be able to book you onto the AA codeshare anyway.
I looked into this a couple of years ago and that was the case.

 

[crowny]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Looks like the 30 day membership (and perhaps A/C membership in general is to take a big hit as far as accessing Qantas Clubs and International Business lounges)

Hat Tip to JDover on FT:
The previous wording was:This change will severely reduce the usefulness of this for Oz residents.

Was looking forward to buying a 30 day AA pass to use in SIN, BNE and SYD on a trip in the next few weeks while I am still a lowly QF silver...

 

[jfabian]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Ok so can anyone confirm that now when flying QF Metal on QF ticket you cannot get into the QP or lounge with a 30 day memebership?

 

[jfabian]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

nevermind, apparently i didnt read the last page of this thread.... oops

 

[Limewood]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Have a friend with AA miles no used for near 18 months, what is best way for him to keep them current? (from memory they run out after a while?).

 

[Fifa]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Have a friend with AA miles no used for near 18 months, what is best way for him to keep them current? (from memory they run out after a while?).

In the past have donated some (from memory the minimum was 100) to charity.
Why not purchase some miles using the current promo?

 

[Limewood]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Why not purchase some miles using the current promo?

oops I posted in wrong forum but..

Does that count too?.

 

[Sumnerned]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Thanks Serfty.

I guess this will lead to the inevitable... QC membership to only grant access to AAdmirals Clubs before departing on a QF flight number (QF or AA operated) for flights within the USA?

Yes, it seems inevitable. This will have a big impact on my USA travels next year as I am only QFF silver. It looks as tho I may be buying 30 day membership(s), if they still exist! Chances of finding QF flight nos. are pretty slim for most domestic routes I guess.

 

[Madz]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

I bought a 30 day pass before the t&cs changed. I'm flying QF to LAX and then AA to YVR (all same ticket). Do you think a loop hole could be the phrase below? I will be departing on the same day on an AA operated flight, just not my first one. Thoughts? Could I swing access to the Qantas Lounge in SYD based on this?

• Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on an American Airlines operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas
  
  
  

 

[serfty]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

The generality is the flight that gives access needs to be departing from the airport where the lounge is.

You would get access in LAX before your flight to YVR.

Out of Sydney it needs to be an AA flight number.

 

[sykoticx]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

So I'm heading to the US on Wednesday and was going to purchase the 30 day membership as I'll be doing some domestic travel and have a couple of hours in transit.

Just wondering if anyone knows how many guests you can bring with you into the Qantas Lounge?

My flights are booked with AA and with AA codes, so based on what everyone has posted I should still get access right?

I'm hoping to bring in a friend with me also =)

 

[losfp]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Ok I'm a bit confused. I have a trip to the US coming up in October/November and I was planning to get the 30 day pass (or 2 of them to cover the weeks I am travelling) so that I could get lounge access. My flights are (all booked on QF):

SYD-DFW, 5-hour layover, DFW-MCO
MCO-LAX
LAX-HNL
HNL-SYD

SYD-DFW and HNL-SYD are QF planes and the rest are AA. So if I'm intepreting this correctly, I will only get access in DFW, MCO and LAX because my outbound flights are AA metal?

 

[mannej]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

Ok I'm a bit confused. I have a trip to the US coming up in October/November and I was planning to get the 30 day pass (or 2 of them to cover the weeks I am travelling) so that I could get lounge access. My flights are (all booked on QF):

SYD-DFW, 5-hour layover, DFW-MCO
MCO-LAX
LAX-HNL
HNL-SYD

SYD-DFW and HNL-SYD are QF planes and the rest are AA. So if I'm intepreting this correctly, I will only get access in DFW, MCO and LAX because my outbound flights are AA metal?

What are the flight numbers?

 

[losfp]

Re: 30 Days Admirals Club Membership

what are the flight numbers?

qf7/aa1222
aa2381
qf3252
qf4