Accor Plus Membership Discussion

[_TheTraveller_]

Just want to confirm my understanding of the Accor status system/path to platinum etc. Please let me know if the following logic below is correct.

Accor status system is outlined here: https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au...my-Status-points-expire-How-does-status-work-

"Accor Plus members have their status assessed at the time of your Accor Plus membership renewal. The Status Tier will be assessed based on the Eligible Status Nights or Status points earned during one of the two periods:

1. The current calendar year to date
2. The previous calendar year"

My situation:
- Currently Silver with total of 29 nights (9 nights in 2023 calendar year + 20 freebie nights from Accor)
- My Accor Plus expires on 31 August 2023/renews 1 Sept.
- Have 1 upcoming night at Ibis Budget on 18 Aug 2023, this will take me to 30 nights, ie to Gold prior to 31 August.
- From 1 Sept 2023, Accor will credit me another 20 nights as per their current promo - this will take me to 50 nights.
- Have 2 more nights upcoming in November, taking me to 52 nights.
- During Nov/Dec, could potentially do another 8 nights to take balance to 60 nights prior to 31 Dec, and become Platinum.
- On 31 Dec all nights expire, so 1 Jan 2024 have zero nights count, but will remain Platinum until next membership expiry on 31 August 2024.
- Come 1 Sept 2024, system sees my nights count in calendar 2023 was 60 nights, so stay Platinum through to 31 December 2024 (or will that be through to 31 Aug 2025?).

Have I got it right?

Very interesting. I'm in a position to do so as well! I got a bit confused between the Accor Plus reset date and Status qualifying dates. My Accor Plus is expected to expire 31/11 which means I should get 20 nights on top of what I've received.

Only if I knew I would have booked a few more trips with Accor. Is a MR of 10 nights worth Plat for 1-2 years? (I'm not sure how renewing Accor Plus in 2024 would extend it more than happy for someone to educate me).

 

[jase05]

Very interesting. I'm in a position to do so as well! I got a bit confused between the Accor Plus reset date and Status qualifying dates. My Accor Plus is expected to expire 31/11 which means I should get 20 nights on top of what I've received.

Only if I knew I would have booked a few more trips with Accor. Is a MR of 10 nights worth Plat for 1-2 years? (I'm not sure how renewing Accor Plus in 2024 would extend it more than happy for someone to educate me).

Only you can decide if it’s worth it.
If you are planning to stay at Accor properties often then Platinum is well worth it IMO.

 

[oz_mark]

Very interesting. I'm in a position to do so as well! I got a bit confused between the Accor Plus reset date and Status qualifying dates. My Accor Plus is expected to expire 31/11 which means I should get 20 nights on top of what I've received.

Only if I knew I would have booked a few more trips with Accor. Is a MR of 10 nights worth Plat for 1-2 years? (I'm not sure how renewing Accor Plus in 2024 would extend it more than happy for someone to educate me).

Renewal dates late in the year are the best place to be. When determining your status at renewal, Accor considers both the previous calendar year, and the current calendear year.

So, if you get to the 60 nights this year, you will get platinum. If you then renew your Accor Plus next November, your platinum will be extended to November 2025.

 

[_TheTraveller_]

Mentioned this in the promo thread.

Some very cheap nights available:

ALL - Accor Live Limitless | Hotels Stays & Exclusive Deals

Discover the ultimate hotel experience with ALL - Accor Live Limitless. Explore our global portfolio of exceptional hotels and resorts, enjoy exclusive member benefits, and earn rewards with every stay.

all.accor.com

Great if you have trips planned in Asia coming up. Otherwise some MR in Australia could work out cheaper since you don't have to fly OS.

 

[bits]

Mentioned this in the promo thread.

Some very cheap nights available:

ALL - Accor Live Limitless | Hotels Stays & Exclusive Deals

Discover the ultimate hotel experience with ALL - Accor Live Limitless. Explore our global portfolio of exceptional hotels and resorts, enjoy exclusive member benefits, and earn rewards with every stay.

all.accor.com

Great if you have trips planned in Asia coming up. Otherwise some MR in Australia could work out cheaper since you don't have to fly OS.

Indeed!
I have a trip to Malaysia later in the year and need 8 nights to hit the Plat threshold. Going to swap 3 nights planned for Hilton over to a Pullman (Pullman costs less $ also), and also buy 5 nights at Ibis (not even going to stay there, just check in and out on the relevant days) to hit the 8 nights. All up the change will only cost about $150 over what I otherwise was paying. Sweet price for Plat

 

[dairyfloss]

Indeed!
I have a trip to Malaysia later in the year and need 8 nights to hit the Plat threshold. Going to swap 3 nights planned for Hilton over to a Pullman (Pullman costs less $ also), and also buy 5 nights at Ibis (not even going to stay there, just check in and out on the relevant days) to hit the 8 nights. All up the change will only cost about $150 over what I otherwise was paying. Sweet price for Plat

Just watch your Ibis nights don’t overlap with another Accor stay?

 

[bits]

Just watch your Ibis nights don’t overlap with another Accor stay?

No overlaps. I always assumed the Accor computer would say no if you tried that

 

[_TheTraveller_]

I just ended up booking at an Ibis Budget in Sydney for $699 for 13 nights and used 4000 points to bring it down to $565. $43/night. A few more holidays/short stays and it should put me over 60 nights by 31/12 assuming the extra 20 nights come through.

 

[philr2000]

Seems my Accor Points are expiring in 20 days - is there a way to extend the validity of these without booking a stay?

I seem to recall in the past ppl doing a survey to extend them but not FAQ suggests "Reward points expire 365 days after your last eligible stay which earned reward points. As long as you have an eligible stay at least once within a 365 day period, your reward points will not expire"?

 

[dairyfloss]

Any rewards points earning activity ahead of the expiry will do the trick:

Help Center

help.accor.com

Here's a list of possibilities for earning, posted by an Accor team member on FT, a while ago:

The eligible transactions that can trigger an extension of the validity of Reward points are:
- An eligible stay, if not fully paid for in Reward points,
- An event organised as part of ALL Meeting Planner offer,
- A drink or meal taken outside a stay in one of our hotels’ bar or restaurant participating in the Dining Offer,
- A purchase from our e-store Limitless Experiences by ALL – Accor Live Limitless (for puchases in Flexpay only) or from Collections online portal,
- A conversion of your Points or Miles from your account at one of our partners, for those offering this possibility, to your ALL - Accor Live Limitless account,
- Purchase a product or service offered by one of our leisure, mobility, survey or shopping partners.

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[philr2000]

Ok thanks - Australian site suggests otherwise?

https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/360039967394-How-do-I-ensure-that-my-points-don-t-expire-#:~:text=Reward%20points%20expire%20365%20days,eligible%20stays%20at%20Accor%20properties.

 

[dairyfloss]

Ok thanks - Australian site suggests otherwise?

https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/360039967394-How-do-I-ensure-that-my-points-don-t-expire-#:~:text=Reward%20points%20expire%20365%20days,eligible%20stays%20at%20Accor%20properties.

Luckily, it's not an Australian operated program I'm sure the options above I posted are fine, but perhaps someone else with experience can confirm they've done it this way in the past.

EDIT: See also here for the FT thread on this, which had the full Accor response copied/contained: Points expiring - FlyerTalk Forums

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[philr2000]

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Luckily, it's not an Australian operated program I'm sure the options above I posted are fine, but perhaps someone else with experience can confirm they've done it this way in the past.

EDIT: See also here for the FT thread on this, which had the full Accor response copied/contained: Points expiring - FlyerTalk Forums

Cheers,
Matt.

Thanks very helpful!

 

[oz_mark]

Ok thanks - Australian site suggests otherwise?

https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/360039967394-How-do-I-ensure-that-my-points-don-t-expire-#:~:text=Reward%20points%20expire%20365%20days,eligible%20stays%20at%20Accor%20properties.

The expiry rules changed at some point, and used to be around having a stay. These were (officially) relaxed to any earning point activity would keep them active. I say officially, as the rules were just being brought into line with what was actually happening. At the time, if you got points from dining, they would extend.

The current rule is

The validity period of Reward Points accumulated by a Member is extended by 365 consecutive days each time an eligible transaction, where Reward points are credited to the Member’s ALL account, occurs.

 

[bits]

I just ended up booking at an Ibis Budget in Sydney for $699 for 13 nights and used 4000 points to bring it down to $565. $43/night. A few more holidays/short stays and it should put me over 60 nights by 31/12 assuming the extra 20 nights come through

Found a 8 night block with suitable dates in December for $300 (Red Dot fare, non-refundable) - at $37.50/night it's cheaper than KL!

 

[SYD]

I can confirm that transferring points over will
extend validity (eg e-Rewards). I do it from time to time if I haven’t stayed.

Also discussed here.

Any ALL Accor Reward activity now extends points balance

Just received an email confirming something that seemed to be the case for a while anyway but now officially, all reward activity will extend points balance validity For a further 12 mths. Previously it needed to be a hotel stay at least every 12 mths.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[_TheTraveller_]

Found a 8 night block with suitable dates in December for $300 (Red Dot fare, non-refundable) - at $37.50/night it's cheaper than KL!

In Sydney?! I saw a few places in Bali which were around that price as well.

 

[dairyfloss]

Question - if I don’t mind about the free night (or at least in year one), is there any known disadvantage for opting into the Accor+ Traveller membership, vv the standard paid version?

Had this show up in the ALL app today, and seems like good value at 4,000 points / 80 euros?

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[oz_mark]

The only difference is the lack of Stay plus.ive not heard of any other difference.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Had this show up in the ALL app today, and seems like good value at 4,000 points / 80 euros?
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In terms of whether the base Accor+ membership makes sense really depends on how often you stay at Accor hotels in Asia Pacific. If you redeem those 4,000 points you get roughly $160 AUD in savings. So for Accor+ to make sense you must get $160 AUD in savings every year. For me this year, I've stayed 43 nights at Accor properties the region. In my case, since I tend to take advantage of the red hot room rates, I make the $400 I spend on the full fat version of Accor+ back very easily. For instance, I'm staying at the Novotel Darwin CBD for 4 nights in September. I booked that as a Red Hot Room for $598 all in. If I were to book that room using the publicly available rate for the same dates it comes to $970 all in. So just that stay alone gets me close to what I spent on Accor+, and the version I had comes with a free night (which will be used at the Sofitel Sydney Darling Harbour).

With that being said you need to look at your past bookings to make sense of the value there. One other benefit of the Accor+ is the 20 bonus status nights which could be useful depending on where you are on the Accor status ladder. At a minimum that'll get you Accor+Silver which gets you welcome drinks and a few other perks, but if you're staying around that 40 night a year mark, it can make a real difference between having Accor+Gold and Accor+Platinum status, the latter of which gives you free breakfast every day in APAC, lounge access, better welcome gifts (from my experience), room upgrades, early and late checkout (YMMV).

-RooFlyer88