Accor Plus Membership Discussion

[33kft]

Ok I’ve gone ahead and stacked all three above and just got upgraded to Platinum. Didn’t really need Signature so will cancel that at some point maybe.

Depends on if you wanted to collect some SNUs I guess? You will get one SNU for every 4,000 status points collected up to a maximum of 12.

 

[Flyerwin]

Depends on if you wanted to collect some SNUs I guess? You will get one SNU for every 4,000 status points collected up to a maximum of 12.

Yes, I was just thinking about that, and the answer is, yes, I think I may give that a try.

 

[dairyfloss]

Depends on if you wanted to collect some SNUs I guess? You will get one SNU for every 4,000 status points collected up to a maximum of 12.

*every 4,000 status points starting at 18,000 status points. There’s been a bit of confusion here in the past for those qualifying Platinum on nights.

 

[samh004]

*every 4,000 status points starting at 18,000 status points. There’s been a bit of confusion here in the past for those qualifying Platinum on nights.

That's a little annoying, I had assumed incorrectly that it was 4000 status points after I hit Platinum from whatever means.

 

[jase05]

That's a little annoying, I had assumed incorrectly that it was 4000 status points after I hit Platinum from whatever means.

Nope, it’s to stop people getting SNU’s from minimum spending or status freebies

 

[Flyerwin]

Nope, it’s to stop people getting SNU’s from minimum spending or status freebies

Makes the ALL Signature less valuable for me.

 

[samh004]

Nope, it’s to stop people getting SNU’s from minimum spending or status freebies

Fair enough.

Makes the ALL Signature less valuable for me.

Not for me, but YMMV.

 

[Flyerwin]

Not for me, but YMMV.

Over a year, you can get to Platinum with either ALL Signature via SCs, or ALL China via SNs. My thinking is that ALL Signature costs double that of ALL China, so why enrol for both?

 

[tmdl]

Over a year, you can get to Platinum with either ALL Signature via SCs, or ALL China via SNs. My thinking is that ALL Signature costs double that of ALL China, so why enrol for both?

ALL Signature includes the points which turn into credits to reedem for stays, does ALL China offer any points or just SN's and the 2 stay free nights?

 

[jase05]

Over a year, you can get to Platinum with either ALL Signature via SCs, or ALL China via SNs. My thinking is that ALL Signature costs double that of ALL China, so why enrol for both?

ALL Signature gives you 75k reward points also in a year which is valued at over $2200

 

[33kft]

Over a year, you can get to Platinum with either ALL Signature via SCs, or ALL China via SNs. My thinking is that ALL Signature costs double that of ALL China, so why enrol for both?

I agree that the status benefit when it comes to ALL Signature is a bit diluted - you earn reward points, using those reward points results in no status points (unless you offset only some of the room cost), and once you get to plat with night stays you can't get any further - diamond is status points only. If you wanted to get past plat, you'd have to spend quite a bit of cash.

The real benefit of ALL Signature is in the point redemption value vs money paid. You essentially end up with near $1,000 of bonus reward credit at the end of the year. If Plat is as high as you aspire, then you can use the ALL Signature points to book stays and enjoy your platinum benefits achieved through the other subscriptions.

For future reference for what it's worth - qualifying via the 20 and 30 night benefits at the start of the year would give you the greatest value, as you'd get to plat early in 2024 and it would continue through 2025. ALL Signature status points are drip-fed so you don't get the same upfront benefit there. That said, renewing Accor Plus at the end of the year carries the status on for another year.

The absolute best combination of status achievement boost to Plat would probably be:
- Accor Plus in Jan of year 1
- China in Jan of year 1
- Earn 10 nights organically ASAP to get Plat from the start of Year 1 and through Year 2
- Cancel Accor Plus so it doesn't renew Jan 1 of Year 2
- Resub Accor Plus Dec of Year 2 so Plat carries on into Year 3

With the above, there's not a whole lot of benefit derived from ALL Signature, but if I were to use it, I'd use it thus:
- Subscribe whenever, accrue reward points and 12,000 status points across the year if maintained
- Generally, don't collect status points as you're using reward points for bookings, however if you book red hot rooms or use your SNUs you are not able to pay with points so you'll be using cash and earn status points from those
- If you happen to pass 18,000 status points, you get another SNU out of it

 

[samh004]

I agree that the status benefit when it comes to ALL Signature is a bit diluted - you earn reward points, using those reward points results in no status points (unless you offset only some of the room cost), and once you get to plat with night stays you can't get any further - diamond is status points only. If you wanted to get past plat, you'd have to spend quite a bit of cash.

Another way to look at it is that if you can earn Platinum on your own through status points, by also buying Signature you'd actually net yourself Diamond, or near enough. While the points can be meaningless as you can't earn status points while using them, I find the experiences you can buy to be really good value.

Next year I was meant to see Childish Gambino (but he's had to cancel due to injury), but I'm still seeing Bryan Adams. Paul Kelly tickets are also available right now, as are Luke Combs - though the latter out of my points range. Seeing Rufus Du Sol at the end of next year, saw Matchbox Twenty and Goo Goo Dolls earlier this year. Suite seating, free food and beverage for world class acts at the price of about €160 (~$260) I find to be great value for me. I recently paid for a regular show in Brisbane that cost nearly $200 in cash and I had to sit on the grass (Riverstage) and buy my own food and drink.

That's how I use my points!

 

[Lucas89]

Interestingly, I still don't have my first lot of ALL Signature points 4 days after renewal on the 30th. Anyone else still waiting? I did expect a few days but I didn't expect it to take this long.

In the same boat, any update on this?

 

[33kft]

In the same boat, any update on this?

Sadly no, I reported it to ALL Customer Care who apparently emailed ALL Signature support over a week ago, I have had silence since then. Chased up twice and the second time around got an annoyed response from the customer care person telling me effectively "I already told you I emailed them".

Not hopeful of seeing my points in 2024, which is a shame, as the entire reason I bought them (and then talked myself into going from quarterly to annually) was the extra 2,000 status points in 2024 to get me one last SNU.

 

[sudoer]

In the same boat, any update on this?

Same boat here. Purchased 1 Dec but still no sign.

Having them land in Jan works marginally better for me so I haven't chased yet.

 

[Flyerwin]

Same boat here. Purchased 1 Dec but still no sign.

Having them land in Jan works marginally better for me so I haven't chased yet.

How frustrating. I got the points on the same day.

I have decided to cancel my ALL Signature subscription for now though.

 

[Nat]

There is definitely an issue for Signature subscribers that had cancelled and then re-subscribed. I re-subscribed on the 2nd December and they didn't credit any points so I e-mailed them on the 11th and they have just now shown up as "Courtesy Points"

 

[33kft]

they have just now shown up as "Courtesy Points"

Same for me. I'll be interested to see what happens on the 30th of Dec, which will be 1 month in.

 

[samh004]

So... advice at this stage is not to cancel and re-subscribe when my membership becomes due but to just let it renew normally?

 

[sudoer]

So... advice at this stage is not to cancel and re-subscribe when my membership becomes due but to just let it renew normally?

Yes, unless you want to take advantage of next year's black friday sale.