Accor Plus / Platinum, seeking advice

[KingHuang]

Thanks good to know. I typically stay at Hilton / Conrad (diamond) but my now I don’t have any status with them.

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Thanks. Will take a look.

how did you go with that? I'm curious as i'm at gold with 39 status nights (from plus) but wondering if i could stack another 20 nights on top with voyageur or perhaps the accor plus through business?

 

[kangarooflyer88]

how did you go with that? I'm curious as i'm at gold with 39 status nights (from plus) but wondering if i could stack another 20 nights on top with voyageur or perhaps the accor plus through business?

The key thing is if you have Accor Plus you cannot stack any other Accor programs on top (be it the European or Brazilian ones). Indeed, this was one of the reasons I didn't initially renew my Accor+ this year as I was hoping to let it lapse and stack the two other Accor discount programs.

But I think you need to look at it from what benefit Accor Platinum gets you. The main items I see are the free breakfast in Asia Pacific. Yes I do happen to have decent luck getting late check outs and upgrades but these items aren't a huge deal since you're looking at maybe checking out at 12 instead of 11 or maybe a room with a view of Darling Harbour. The other benefit that may be worth while are the two suite night upgrades you get which allow you to upgrade a normal room at a hotel to a suite. I did this for a 4 night stay at the Sofitel Melbourne back in January moving from a Superior room to Junior Suite saving me around $1,000 AUD on the booking. It was also nice that I had a 10% cash back offer and that applied to the total amount making the whole stay quite reasonable indeed. Additionally, I tend to be an absolute cheapskate when it comes to booking hotels (some of my reports on the How Does Accor Treat You as a Valued Elite thread are in the $100/night range), meaning I book dirt cheap hotels from Accor which don't include breakfast, but I still get breakfast as a Platinum. This can be a real boon when travelling since you're saving the cost of a meal, which if there are two people travelling can be decent and offset the cost of the hotel. So far this year, I've got 39 nights booked at qualifying Accor properties which when combined with the 20 nights from Accor+ gets me to 59 nights, meaning I'll need just one more night to hit Platinum yet again. So yeah, I'm definitely getting some value out of the status.

But I think it all comes back to what I tell people all the time when it comes to status: status be it with airlines, hotels, or car rentals only matters if you use it often. If you're staying on a handful of times, the benefits simply won't make up for the costs of having to book with one company. One also has to consider the opportunity costs here. Every night I stay at an Accor, it means one less night spent at a Marriott or Hilton (both of which give you lifetime status after staying so many nights with them). In the case of Marriott for instance, I'm 80 nights away from lifetime Silver status. The reason I choose to book Accor over a Marriott is simply numbers. There are way more Accor properties where I am staying in Australia than there are Marriott and way more at my price range too. Now if I was staying somewhere in North America, the reverse would be true: way more Marriotts than Accor and way cheaper too! The point being is be rational about the whole loyalty business. Book what is cheapest, most convenient and if you can flog some status out of it, so be it.

-RooFlyer88

 

[jase05]

The key thing is if you have Accor Plus you cannot stack any other Accor programs on top (be it the European or Brazilian ones).

This is simply not true

 

[kangarooflyer88]

This is simply not true

I would encourage you to try adding a voyageur card to your account if you’re an Accor Plus member s as this is what you’ll get:

 

[jase05]

I would encourage you to try adding a voyageur card to your account if you’re an Accor Plus member s as this is what you’ll get:

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That is only one option
There have been some people on here and many reported elsewhere who have stacked Accor plus with ALL Signature just fine

 

[kangarooflyer88]

That is only one option
There have been some people on here and many reported elsewhere who have stacked Accor plus with ALL Signature just fine

How does ALL Signature have anything to do with what they are asking? They are short 21 nights and ALL Signature won't earn them a single extra night towards status. Yes, maybe you could earn status points towards status but that's award out in monthly instalments and based on the fact that they are earning status based on nights stayed won't likely move the needle for earning status.

And on top of that membership ain't cheap, they could easily be looking at spending a couple hundred bucks on an annual membership. and again, that assumes that they plan on earning status through status points and not nights stayed at the hotel.

 

[jase05]

How does ALL Signature have anything to do with what they are asking? They are short 21 nights and ALL Signature won't earn them a single extra night towards status. Yes, maybe you could earn status points towards status but that's award out in monthly instalments and based on the fact that they are earning status based on nights stayed won't likely move the needle for earning status.

And on top of that membership ain't cheap, they could easily be looking at spending a couple hundred bucks on an annual membership. and again, that assumes that they plan on earning status through status points and not nights stayed at the hotel.

It doesn’t help the person asking the question but I was simply stating Accor plus does stack with other Accor programs. Unfortunately Hough it’s not an option for the above

 

[elanshin]

How does ALL Signature have anything to do with what they are asking? They are short 21 nights and ALL Signature won't earn them a single extra night towards status. Yes, maybe you could earn status points towards status but that's award out in monthly instalments and based on the fact that they are earning status based on nights stayed won't likely move the needle for earning status.

And on top of that membership ain't cheap, they could easily be looking at spending a couple hundred bucks on an annual membership. and again, that assumes that they plan on earning status through status points and not nights stayed at the hotel.

You can most certainly stack ALL Plus China with Accor Plus and that gives you bonus nights. Althoguh I think they're running a stay 3 nights and get Platinum campaign instead right now (need to stay in mainland china). Normally its +20/+30 nights.

Yes that means you could get +50 nights and not have visited a hotel with those 2 programs.

(I most certainly had both China and Accor plus earlier in the year, I let my A+ lapse for now though).

 

[oz_mark]

The key thing is if you have Accor Plus you cannot stack any other Accor programs on top (be it the European or Brazilian ones). Indeed, this was one of the reasons I didn't initially renew my Accor+ this year as I was hoping to let it lapse and stack the two other Accor discount programs.

The situation is quite a bit more nuanced than this. The "Accor Plus" and "All Plus" memberships do not stack - that is true. However, Accor Plus and Accor Signature (the Brazilian one) can stacked. Technically, Accor Signature is a subscription rather than a membership

 

[elanshin]

The situation is quite a bit more nuanced than this. The "Accor Plus" and "All Plus" memberships do not stack - that is true. However, Accor Plus and Accor Signature can stacked. Technically, Accor Signature is a subscription rather than a membership

See Above - ALL Plus China breaks that.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

It doesn’t help the person asking the question but I was simply stating Accor plus does stack with other Accor programs. Unfortunately Hough it’s not an option for the above

With that said, I will say that I'm surprised it could be stacked. But one thing to keep in mind here is the ALL Signature program seems to be only related to status points and the accrual of Accor points for redemption. You won't get cheaper rates at Accor properties which is the case if you held Accor Plus or ALL Voyageur. The latter program can be particularly useful since it applies to nearly all Accor properties globally whereas Accor Plus only applies to hotels in Asia-Pacific.

Whether it is worth the membership will depend on how frequently you stay at Accor properties. Certainly the low end membership can make sense if you are planning on spending $200/AUD year at Accor properties as you'll earn that's the cost of their lowest tier but which earns roughly 160 Euros worth of value in Accor points (~$265 AUD) plus all those status points. Still not enough to move the needle for status as you'll earn 1200 status points and you need 14,000 status points to earn Platinum. On the high end (the All Signature Absolute costing $1,800 AUD/year) you'll earn 12,000 status points, which would still be 2,000 status points short for Accor Platinum. Where this could get interesting, I suppose is if you are planning to earn the coveted Diamond status but don't have enough spend to earn the 26,000 status points required to attain status (Accor Diamond is only awarded by status points). The benefit of Accor Diamond would be more suite night upgrades, free breakfasts on weekends anywhere globally and access to Fairmont Gold lounges plus the ability to gift someone Gold status.

I suppose the best question for the OP to consider is whether he'll be able to stay 21 nights before end of year. That's a huge ask obviously but one thing to consider is Accor is running a 30% off promotion right now, and CashRewards is giving you 6% cash back on hotels booked till end of day today. So there may be creative ways to manufacture status. For instance, I just booked 2 nights at an ibis budget in Australia that earns Accor status and it only cost me $152 total (i.e. $76/night).

-RooFlyer88

 

[kangarooflyer88]

See Above - ALL Plus China breaks that.

If I understand you correctly, ALL Plus China can stack on top of Accor+. Indeed a quick browse seems to suggest that it is possible to get Accor Platinum status in as little as 3 stays using a combination of cards from ALL Plus China (for stays during the next couple of weeks in the greater China region). That is an interesting proposition, even for those of us who are forbidden from travelling to the country due to their citizenship.

 

[elanshin]

If I understand you correctly, ALL Plus China can stack on top of Accor+. Indeed a quick browse seems to suggest that it is possible to get Accor Platinum status in as little as 3 stays using a combination of cards from ALL Plus China (for stays during the next couple of weeks in the greater China region). That is an interesting proposition, even for those of us who are forbidden from travelling to the country due to their citizenship.

Yes Basically when you sign up (you will need to use WeChat however) you get either +20 nights or +30nights. Right now I dont think that promo is active because they've got an active campaign to just straight give you platinum with 3 nights.

This has been discussed a bit on the various Accor groups from time to time this year. Also China can make any status happen. There's been lots of talks of China having most of the worlds Hotel status elites across most of the programs thanks to lets just say not fully legitimate methods.