All international travelers will be quarantined in hotels or designated facilities

[moa999]

If its like other countries that have done this, unless there is an allergy requirement, everyone gets the same predetermined low cost meal - no menu.

That looked to be the case from the cruise ship people who ended up at the Swissotel

 

[Matt_01]

'Beginning' ... 'earlier' . OK, when should they have done it? Late December? Mid January? Early February? I had a quick look back and can't see anyone advocating anything like this back then

Apologies - I don't mean to have a go at you flydoc, your comments as good as the next one, but AFF is just saturated with "they should have done it earlier" comments, none that I can recall earlier than mid March.

I tend to agree with @RooFlyer, MrsM works in health and still needs to go out and visit clients. It was in early Feb she started questioning our travel schedule for this year and becoming (what I thought at the time) more annoying with banter about border closures. In the first week of Mar we still went to NZ, the borders were being closed down about a week later. Our Apr trip AU-SG- JP-UK-US-JP-AU is no longer. June trip AU-SG-MY-SG-AU will be canceled and our final trip AU-US-CA-US-AU who knows.

As someone works in health She is now preparing to isolate myself and our daughter to one end of the house and she will remain at the other end and "social silence" may yet be achieved. All jokes aside, if we all had the benefit of hindsight most would have already won the lotto by now.

Whilst we all could have done something earlier I am pretty sure that there have been articles published along the lines that the world should be preparing for another 'pandemic' but human nature being what it is will dismiss this until it happens and then will apportion blame.

 

[Mattg]

Well I'm lucky to have arrived back in Australia on Thursday. I'm now self-isolating at home.

I wonder what would happen if, say, you lived in Tasmania but arrived back in Australia in Melbourne. Would you be required to be quarantined in Melbourne for 14 days, then self-isolate for another 2 weeks after arriving back in Tasmania?

 

[RooFlyer]

I wonder what would happen if, say, you lived in Tasmania but arrived back in Australia in Melbourne. Would you be required to be quarantined in Melbourne for 14 days, then self-isolate for another 2 weeks after arriving back in Tasmania?

Yes.

 

[DC3]

Well I'm lucky to have arrived back in Australia on Thursday. I'm now self-isolating at home.

I wonder what would happen if, say, you lived in Tasmania but arrived back in Australia in Melbourne. Would you be required to be quarantined in Melbourne for 14 days, then self-isolate for another 2 weeks after arriving back in Tasmania?

That is my understanding.

 

[Pushka]

Well I'm lucky to have arrived back in Australia on Thursday. I'm now self-isolating at home.

I wonder what would happen if, say, you lived in Tasmania but arrived back in Australia in Melbourne. Would you be required to be quarantined in Melbourne for 14 days, then self-isolate for another 2 weeks after arriving back in Tasmania?

Adelaide as a city is lucky. There are no more direct International arrivals here anymore. So everyone from overseas transits at a hotel interstate. Then when they arrive into Adelaide it's another 2 week period of isolation. 4 weeks worth. Same for those being offloaded from a cruise ship.

 

[oz_mark]

'Beginning' ... 'earlier' . OK, when should they have done it? Late December? Mid January? Early February? I had a quick look back and can't see anyone advocating anything like this back then

Apologies - I don't mean to have a go at you flydoc, your comments are as good as the next one, but AFF is just saturated with "they should have done it earlier" comments, none that I can recall earlier than mid March.

On timelines, I think people need to reflect that it was just two weeks ago that the GP was cancelled. Obviously, in retrospect, the government, the organisers and the hordes that descended on Melbourne all got that wrong. - they should have known that it was going to be cancelled earlier than they did.

There are no 'right' decisions in much of this, everyone is making 'right now' decisions based on what they know at the time. Mistakes will be made, but that's just the nature of an extremely fast moving situation.

 

[p--and--t]

Adelaide as a city is lucky. There are no more direct International arrivals here anymore. So everyone from overseas transits at a hotel interstate. Then when they arrive into Adelaide it's another 2 week period of isolation. 4 weeks worth. Same for those being offloaded from a cruise ship.

Yep. SA and Tassie will now have the best chance to minimise the spread and consequential pain and are good places to be.

NT geographically might look good on the surface, but so many outstations & communities, so few medical and economic resources

 

[mel-world]

'Beginning' ... 'earlier' . OK, when should they have done it? Late December? Mid January? Early February? I had a quick look back and can't see anyone advocating anything like this back then

I tend to agree with @RooFlyer, MrsM works in health and still needs to go out and visit clients. It was in early Feb she started questioning our travel schedule for this year and becoming (what I thought at the time) more annoying with banter about border closures.

Whilst we all could have done something earlier I am pretty sure that there have been articles published along the lines that the world should be preparing for another 'pandemic' but human nature being what it is will dismiss this until it happens and then will apportion blame.

While I do not step back from my earlier comments, I do acknowledge that many politicians and bureaucrats are working off a blank sheet of paper; in that none of us have experienced such a threat to both our health and our economy in our lifetime.

Having lived in Singapore during SARS, I watched with interest their early initiatives and as soon as the Diamond Princess become a threat to all on board, I started to unwind all my travel up to July. My wife is still waiting for a refund for a trip to Japan but, thanks to my excellent TA, I was able to cancel a couple of trips for a grand total of $50 in fees plus a little to her for all her work for no reward.

I would like to express my gratitude to all health workers for their dedication in increasingly difficult times.

 

[Pushka]

Yep. SA and Tassie will now have the best chance to minimise the spread and consequential pain and are good places to be.

NT geographically might look good on the surface, but so many outstations & communities, so few medical and economic resources

Boring comes in handy occasionally.

On timelines, I think people need to reflect that it was just two weeks ago that the GP was cancelled. Obviously, in retrospect, the government, the organisers and the hordes that descended on Melbourne all got that wrong. - they should have known that it was going to be cancelled earlier than they did.

There are no 'right' decisions in much of this, everyone is making 'right now' decisions based on what they know at the time. Mistakes will be made, but that's just the nature of an extremely fast moving situation.

You know what? I'm going to give kudos to @amaroo here. He pulled the plug on his overseas trips very early on. Made me think about not going to Bali when all visible signs were that it was a goer. For someone like him who loves his travel to do that, at some cost I think, was the start of the warning bells for me. And that was early February from memory.

 

[flydoc]

'Beginning' ... 'earlier' . OK, when should they have done it? Late December? Mid January? Early February? I had a quick look back and can't see anyone advocating anything like this back then

Apologies - I don't mean to have a go at you flydoc, your comments are as good as the next one, but AFF is just saturated with "they should have done it earlier" comments, none that I can recall earlier than mid March.

No offence taken- this is a discussion thread after all.

But clearly there was a reason the Australian evacuees from Wuhan and the Diamond Princess were managed the way they were from 8 weeks ago.
Many people have been surprised and concerned that the Australian Government (and NSW in the case of the Ruby Princess passengers), despite having access to the best advice on communicable disease control, will not have applied the same standard for other travellers returning from overseas until midnight tonight.

A step-wise linear approach does not suit an exponential problem, you need to message clearly and early, then act decisively and continue consistent messaging to get and keep people on board. Many of these factors have been absent, at least until recently.

 

[Steady]

All persons entering Tas will from Sunday PM will be accommodated/quarantined in state facilities for 2 weeks

 

[RooFlyer]

All persons entering Tas will from Sunday PM will be accommodated/quarantined in state facilities for 2 weeks

Even if they have been in isolation for 2 weeks interstate

 

[lovetravellingoz]

'Beginning' ... 'earlier' . OK, when should they have done it? Late December? Mid January? Early February? I had a quick look back and can't see anyone advocating anything like this back then

Apologies - I don't mean to have a go at you flydoc, your comments are as good as the next one, but AFF is just saturated with "they should have done it earlier" comments, none that I can recall earlier than mid March.

Yes we live in an imperfect world.

I think that overall that the Ruby Princess disembarkation process was however the main major decision that was a complete stuff up and with the knowledge available at the time should not have happened. Quarantining should really have been occurring by then as it was already known that not all who where meant to self-isolate were doing so, plus also many that disembarked had to travel well beyond Sydney to get to where they could self-isolate.

While stricter processes would have been nice earlier overall what was done was probably reasonable.

I am exceptionally pleased that now that ALL new arrivals must going into true quarantine. I hope there is a similar system for the air crews and merchant ship crews.

 

[flydoc]

Even if they have been in isolation for 2 weeks interstate

And same for those moving to the other jurisdictions with border restrictions (WA, SA, NT & QLD) even if travelling from a similarly-restricted area, unless in an exempt group (do we want to go there )

Correction- Jurisdictions other than Tas currently actively supervising quarantine but not necessarily providing the accommodation for all arrivals

 

[drron]

All persons entering Tas will from Sunday PM will be accommodated/quarantined in state facilities for 2 weeks

Fortunately I arrive Sunday afternoon.
As an essential arrival I still have to agree for 2 weeks to travel between my accommodation and the hospital and only allowed out to buy food.On arrival I will go to Coles and do a big shop so I can cook up a couple of curries and some spicy wallaby spag sauce and freeze some so it will last the 2 weeks.
Fortunately their Farmer's Market has already set up online so you can get your produce delivered.

Homepage - Harvest Market Launceston

harvestmarket.org.au

And I know a couple of vineyards that will deliver their product even if you only get 2-3 bottles.

 

[Pushka]

Even if they have been in isolation for 2 weeks interstate

Yes. The people coming off cruise ships in Fremantle are all going to Rottnest for 2 weeks. I'm guessing they won't have yet been told that if they are coming back to SA, or Tasmania, another 2 weeks sentence. Four weeks. A very long time.
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[JohnK]

Good decision that really should have been made earlier. If I remember correctly up until a few weeks ago the only cases in Australia were arrivals from overseas.

In hindsight I made a silly mistake with trip to Thailand in February/March. Very dangerous and around that time the severity of the virus wad starting to take shape.

 

[Dismounted]

I’ve got a relative who is returning to Australia this coming week - does anyone know how the quarantine period is calculated? Is day of arrival considered Day 1 or Day 0?

I need to sort out connecting flights home for them... thanks!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I’ve got a relative who is returning to Australia this coming week - does anyone know how the quarantine period is calculated? Is day of arrival considered Day 1 or Day 0?

I need to sort out connecting flights home for them... thanks!

I would suggest that wait and see if they are CV19 positive first, for if they are they will most likely be staying on for longer than 14 days.