Angry about proposed travel ban exemption for footballers

[sinophile888]

I can understand that some people have fears of adverse reactions, as an Aunt of Mrsoatek died from such a reaction, although that was many decades ago (not egg based I think, but from a mouse perhaps?)!

But egg allergies are a not considered a concern according to ASCIA, and from what I have read serious reactions are quite rare.

I had my flu vaccination as soon as it was available as I fit in two vulnerable categories. It was given in our car outside the doctor's surgery. I was OK at first but suddenly felt peculiar, tingly and weak. A doctor came out and took my BP and it was 80ish over 40ish. I waited in the car for another 30 minutes and was checked another couple of times. Eventually, my BP went back to 110ish over 70ish (normal for me). I haven't seen my GP since, but will tell her when I get the chance. The duty doctor may have informed her.
I think my reaction was very unusual and feel that the need for me to have the flu shot outweighs my worry about my adverse reaction.

 

[OATEK]

I had my flu vaccination as soon as it was available as I fit in two vulnerable categories. It was given in our car outside the doctor's surgery. I was OK at first but suddenly felt peculiar, tingly and weak. The nurse took my BP and it was 80ish over 40ish. I waited in the car for another 30 minutes and my BP was back to 110ish over 70ish (normal for me). I haven't seen my GP since, but will tell her when I get the chance.

I had much the same experience many years ago from a Hepatitis shot, and finished up on the ground outside the surgery. Left me with a bruise on an elbow as the only real issue, and got me tea and sympathy from the nurse.

 

[Anna]

Affadavit

Affidavit.

Obtaining a grant of probate requires a court order in my state, so it makes perfect sense to me to prepare the correct documents - great if they turn out not to be needed for court to get probate, much easier than redoing necessary but incorrect documents when the court refuses to accept them. I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[p--and--t]

I had my flu vaccination as soon as it was available as I fit in two vulnerable categories. It was given in our car outside the doctor's surgery. I was OK at first but suddenly felt peculiar, tingly and weak. A doctor came out and took my BP and it was 80ish over 40ish. I waited in the car for another 30 minutes and was checked another couple of times. Eventually, my BP went back to 110ish over 70ish (normal for me). I haven't seen my GP since, but will tell her when I get the chance. The duty doctor may have informed her.
I think my reaction was very unusual and feel that the need for me to have the flu shot outweighs my worry about my adverse reaction.

I had much the same experience many years ago from a Hepatitis shot, and finished up on the ground outside the surgery. Left me with a bruise on an elbow as the only real issue, and got me tea and sympathy from the nurse.

Would be interesting to know whether it was a stress reaction (the experience of the injection and what might happen or not happen) as opposed to a physical reaction to the vaccine entering the body. Also was it compounded by the situation, had you eaten, were you in a hurry, are there other stressors in your life on that particular day.

I need to have blood tests every three months and sometimes I am as cool as a cucumber, in and out, breezy and on my way. Other times I feel almost sweaty. But they are not giving me vaccine, just taking a few ml of blood.

Not looking for a response from either of you, just pondering online.

 

[jonboixxx]

Would be interesting to know whether it was a stress reaction (the experience of the injection and what might happen or not happen) as opposed to a physical reaction to the vaccine entering the body. Also was it compounded by the situation, had you eaten, were you in a hurry, are there other stressors in your life on that particular day.

I need to have blood tests every three months and sometimes I am as cool as a cucumber, in and out, breezy and on my way. Other times I feel almost sweaty. But they are not giving me vaccine, just taking a few ml of blood.

Not looking for a response from either of you, just pondering online.

Agreed; for many years I was fine with blood tests and vaccinations. I now experience faintness when getting blood taken. I ask to lie down for that, which they oblige. Vaccinations are ok for me though; I had my first ever flu vaccination last week, which I had no problems with. My wife had localised pain in her arm though, for about 24 hours. The wonders of the human body.

 

[TheRealTMA]

You people?

Probably should have used “youse”.

(grammar comment not on the OP)

 

[Pushka]

My son reacts badly to injections and blood tests. I first noticed it when he was five, getting his HepB shots. His lips went blue. Now as an adult he breaks into a sweat and is faint. He has to lie down to have them done. He took one for the team when his nephew was born last year and had a whooping cough immunisation. But he did have to prepare for it in advance. But that isn't an adverse reaction that should qualify on medical grounds. Anaphylaxis does, which is usually allergy to the components eg egg. Or for a live immunisation (measles I think is) to an immune compromised person. Nothing else is covered I'd suggest.

 

[p--and--t]

My son reacts badly to injections and blood tests. I first noticed it when he was five, getting his HepB shots. His lips went blue. Now as an adult he breaks into a sweat and is faint. He has to lie down to have them done. He took one for the team when his nephew was born last year and had a whooping cough immunisation. But he did have to prepare for it in advance. But that isn't an adverse reaction that should qualify on medical grounds. Anaphylaxis does, which is usually allergy to the components eg egg. Or for a live immunisation (measles I think is) to an immune compromised person. Nothing else is covered I'd suggest.

So that suggests, in your son's case, it has little/nothing to do with the vaccine or injection per se, but how he reacts to it psychologically. (Blood tests don't introduce anything to the body and don't induce any substantial physical injury & unlikely induce a physical response.)

 

[drron]

Well I have 600mls of blood taken off every 3 months and get up and walk off.No problems for me.

 

[Pushka]

So that suggests, in your son's case, it has little/nothing to do with the vaccine or injection per se, but how he reacts to it psychologically. (Blood tests don't introduce anything to the body and don't induce any substantial physical injury & unlikely induce a physical response.)

Agree. It's his reactions to the immunisation! Our next door neighbour, and older lady, says she is exactly the same and this year is the first year she's had a flu shot. She needed ephedrine one time! But she knows it's her, not the contents and ditto with the son. But it shouldnt be used as a medical reason to not immunise.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So that suggests, in your son's case, it has little/nothing to do with the vaccine or injection per se, but how he reacts to it psychologically. (Blood tests don't introduce anything to the body and don't induce any substantial physical injury & unlikely induce a physical response.)

My middle daughter used to have great fear of needles. Sometimes feinting, physically shaking, sweating etc.
With any vaccination we had to make special arrangements to have them at the doctors and it was never a quick process, rather than say when at her school her schoolmates were getting one the more common vaccinations.

Eventually she grew out of this fear and ironically became a nurse and gives injections all the time as well cannulas, etc and even intubating patients However this does make her very emphatic to any patient who has a problem with various objects being inserted into them.

 

[nutwood]

Well I have 600mls of blood taken off every 3 months and get up and walk off.No problems for me.

No cup of tea and a biscuit? You're losing out!
I remember my days of living in Sydney when the whole point of donating blood was the free parking that came with it. Someone takes a hit for the team whilst everyone else in the car does all the CBD stuff they'd been putting off.

 

[drron]

Mine isn't a donation though.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Mine isn't a donation though.

hemochromatosis or do medical practitioners have to sell blood to survive these days?

 

[drron]

Indeed I am a true Ironman.

 

[p--and--t]

Interesting to see how well these fine upstanding young ball player gentlemen, that are really special, are really making an effort to behave themselves and support their code and fellow team players so they can get back to playing.

Vague unclear reports on ABC news of video of one of them in the process of assault kicking another person in the chest and another taken to hospital with stab wounds after another separate altercation when he is supposed to be in VIC iso.

 

[DC3]

Interesting to see how well these fine upstanding young ball player gentlemen ....

reports on ABC news of video of one of them in the process of assault kicking another person in the chest and another taken to hospital with stab wounds after another separate altercation when he is supposed to be in VIC iso.

Young and under pressure is the reason often offered?

 

[p--and--t]

Young and under pressure is the reason often offered?

Is that a euphemism for immature and irresponsible even though they are highly paid adults in a public focused career.

 

[Pushka]

So now I am really pissed off. I'm presuming that will be censored.

Just now, our State Govt has caved in and is allowing the two AFL teams to resume full contact training with the entire squad, in Adelaide. An exemption. They screwed up their isolation just over a week ago and got off. Now, we still can't eat in a restaurant, we have to eat outside, (weather is appalling now because of a cold change); businesses can't resume, yet the bloody footballers, who are still being paid, get the exemption. Needless to say Steven Marshall's Facebook is exploding. Not with congratulations as he might have expected, but with fury.

 

[serfty]

@Pushka Maybe Steven Marshall realised the economic benefits of having (even without crowds) footy played in Adaide.