Apple iPhone 5

[ozscot]

First response from CIO is Blackberry

That's not so forward looking for someone in that position. RIM could well go bust this financial year with their current trend and product lineup.

 

[Limewood]

Looks like iPhone sales are doing reasonably well...

 

[cove]

We beat that slow down so ours should come next week.

 

[Robert K]

apple is amazing and i can't wait to remortgage my house to buy everything they make.

but to be serious, NFC may be a great technology for some applications, but i can't see how it could benefit Qantas too much.

If your boarding pass shows up automatically on your screen when you're at the boarding gate, it works basically the same as NFC.

I wish NFC made it to the iphone5, but there's just no applications for it in australia apart from billboards in st leonards station.

 

[Cynicor]

Shouldn't feed the troll, but some of us can afford to buy a phone (or an iPad, or a MacBook), so it's not an issue. If you can't , don't get one. If you don't like their products, there's plenty of competition.

 

[YQY]

My wife decided to wash her iPhone. 4 32GB in the washer at 1400rpm y'day morning. The phone was off warranty, we rang apple support, they were extremely helpful, and they made an appointment at the closest apple store that afternoon. Within half an hour of the appointment we walked out of the store with a replacement phone ($180) and within an hour her data was restored from the cloud.

Within 5 hours, my wife had a new mobile and all her data restored.... this is why I like apple.

 

[Simo]

My wife decided to wash her iPhone. 4 32GB in the washer at 1400rpm y'day morning. The phone was off warranty, we rang apple support, they were extremely helpful, and they made an appointment at the closest apple store that afternoon. Within half an hour of the appointment we walked out of the store with a replacement phone ($180) and within an hour her data was restored from the cloud.

Within 5 hours, my wife had a new mobile and all her data restored.... this is why I like apple.

That is why apple are a market leader

 

[DeKa]

That is why apple are a market leader

Yes the service you get (even if the damage is your own fault) is amazing. I remember the pain of getting Nokia handsets repaired or replaced.

The fact the iPhone backup has always been so good helps, and iCloud backup makes it more likely you'll have a recent backup.

 

[TonyHancock]

That is not the response likely from my workplace. First response from CIO is Blackberry ... because it integrates best with internal email/calendar/contacts etc and has well trusted and tested security features for encryption, remote wipe etc. Second choice is iPhone with Good container which is a recent addition to corporate supported platform that also meets the corporate requirements for encrypting all corporate data including email, contacts, calendar etc. Windows 8 is not supported by our CIO office and hence its against policy to use for storing any corporate data including email.

....Ditto.

 

[Simo]

I am a little annoyed that the SIM card is different to every other ph on the market.

I like to swap handsets on a regular basis.

It will be a PITA if I need to swap SIM cards everytime I want to swap to and from the I phone.

I hope there is an adaptor like from mini SIM to micro SIM

 

[drewbles]

Have you guys checked out the Nokia Lumia 920? It's better in so many ways! Introducing the Nokia Lumia 920 - YouTube
Better camera, better screen, better support for emails...even has wireless charging and NFC!
It's my next phone

And runs WinMo. Apples and errm Nokias (sorry, Oranges)

NFC != the killer everyone thinks it is. Remember, Apple have the largest database of valid credit card details in the world. That, with Passbook (their new app for loyalty schemes and boarding passes etc), and you have a very very real competitor to NFC, without them needing to deal with MC, Visa, Amex, Discover, JCB, Diners etc which means they don't have to pay licence fees and the like.

There are many articles around talking about interviews with Phil Schiller from Apple, and why they didn't put NFC into the iPhone 5. It's a great idea, but until it's standardised for merchants, it's going to take a while (PayPass and PayWave are Mastercard/Visa technologies which would involve huge fees to licence).

 

[drewbles]

Just ask your CIO what phone they would rather you be using, and it will be Windows Phone 8 with much tighter integration into their network.
The apps for Windows will soon skyrocket. If you build an app for Windows Phone 8, it will work on tablets, laptops and desktops. Cheaper application purchases for the home user - no buying an app twice for iOS and Mac OS.
Cheaper development (a similar experience from phone to tablet to desktop) with better productivity applications - then it becomes a pissing contest re the extras. From what we have seen of Samsung and Nokia to date, Nokia Lumia 920 wins as a phone that covers business life and work.
All Windows 8 phone will be supported Microsoft, and have the same OS across the board (something Android hasn't succeeded with). All will have NFC. Qantas is trialling NFC now. This is what makes the Windows 8 a serious replacement to the iPhone for the Frequent Flyer.

I disagree. There is a major push in the corporate world (and is mostly a 'done deal') for Apple to get in. Apple have released many tools for organisations to manage iDevices (iPhones/iPads etc).

I know of zero organisations that say 'no' to iPhone and 'yes' to *any* winmo platform (and winmo 8 is yet to prove its worth, especially with a very bad app store). Keep in mind, the big big thing for developers is 'standarisation'. The easier it is for them to write their apps, the more likely they'll commit to a platform. The Apple ecosystem is so small in terms of support required for hardware (resolution/system specifications etc), that more developers commit to Apple than even Android. Look at Android and the fact that there are so many different versions of Android itself, and that not all handsets can run all platforms, and not all apps in the store can run on all versions of the OS, and that there are 'vanilla' (ie, unaltered) versions and then carrier customised versions. Fragmentation is a huge huge issue, and with Winmo, it'll be the same.

Apple licenced Active Sync to get Exchange support. There's no reason to use AD stuff on a phone (you're not 'logging in' to a corporate network with a phone).

 

[drewbles]

I am a little annoyed that the SIM card is different to every other ph on the market.

I like to swap handsets on a regular basis.

It will be a PITA if I need to swap SIM cards everytime I want to swap to and from the I phone.

I hope there is an adaptor like from mini SIM to micro SIM

Manufacturers are going to start using them more and more. As someone working in the industry, I have no problems with it. It's a little annoying, yes, but no biggie. SIM Cards are a disposable thing (the wholesale cost for these things is sub $5USD per unit; yes, that much).

There's a lot more on a SIM card than people think. I have 2 x A3 sheets that explain a flow of the systems on our SIM cards. It's actually quite interesting as to how much they can do.

mini to micro? You mean Micro to Nano?

The Nano SIM is actually thinner than a micro. If that actually affects the situation remains to be seen (it's around 0.06mm difference iirc), which will only affect the ability to change SIM cards to overseas roaming ones (like ours).

 

[Simo]

Manufacturers are going to start using them more and more. As someone working in the industry, I have no problems with it. It's a little annoying, yes, but no biggie. SIM Cards are a disposable thing (the wholesale cost for these things is sub $5USD per unit; yes, that much).

There's a lot more on a SIM card than people think. I have 2 x A3 sheets that explain a flow of the systems on our SIM cards. It's actually quite interesting as to how much they can do.

mini to micro? You mean Micro to Nano?

The Nano SIM is actually thinner than a micro. If that actually affects the situation remains to be seen (it's around 0.06mm difference iirc), which will only affect the ability to change SIM cards to overseas roaming ones (like ours).

Yep sorry Micro to Nano.

I have just purchased a cutter to go from Micro to Nano so not sure how they are going to deal with the thickness difference.

 

[Simo]

I disagree. There is a major push in the corporate world (and is mostly a 'done deal') for Apple to get in. Apple have released many tools for organisations to manage iDevices (iPhones/iPads etc).

I know of zero organisations that say 'no' to iPhone and 'yes' to *any* winmo platform (and winmo 8 is yet to prove its worth, especially with a very bad app store). Keep in mind, the big big thing for developers is 'standarisation'. The easier it is for them to write their apps, the more likely they'll commit to a platform. The Apple ecosystem is so small in terms of support required for hardware (resolution/system specifications etc), that more developers commit to Apple than even Android. Look at Android and the fact that there are so many different versions of Android itself, and that not all handsets can run all platforms, and not all apps in the store can run on all versions of the OS, and that there are 'vanilla' (ie, unaltered) versions and then carrier customised versions. Fragmentation is a huge huge issue, and with Winmo, it'll be the same.

Apple licenced Active Sync to get Exchange support. There's no reason to use AD stuff on a phone (you're not 'logging in' to a corporate network with a phone).

I have customers that will not allow I phones in there fleet.

The staff need a phone not a toy.

 

[Paddy55]

Just ask your CIO what phone they would rather you be using, and it will be Windows Phone 8 with much tighter integration into their network.
The apps for Windows will soon skyrocket. If you build an app for Windows Phone 8, it will work on tablets, laptops and desktops. Cheaper application purchases for the home user - no buying an app twice for iOS and Mac OS.
Cheaper development (a similar experience from phone to tablet to desktop) with better productivity applications - then it becomes a pissing contest re the extras. From what we have seen of Samsung and Nokia to date, Nokia Lumia 920 wins as a phone that covers business life and work.
All Windows 8 phone will be supported Microsoft, and have the same OS across the board (something Android hasn't succeeded with). All will have NFC. Qantas is trialling NFC now. This is what makes the Windows 8 a serious replacement to the iPhone for the Frequent Flyer.

As a former CIO who replaced Blackberries with iPhone I'd have to suggest you're talking rubbish!

Microsoft has had a few goes at phones and tablets and the Nokia Lumina is vapor ware with no release date or price announced.

I'd suggest any CIO using your logic is more a techno weenie back room boffin than a CIO

(end mini rant )

 

[Paddy55]

My wife decided to wash her iPhone. 4 32GB in the washer at 1400rpm y'day morning. The phone was off warranty, we rang apple support, they were extremely helpful, and they made an appointment at the closest apple store that afternoon. Within half an hour of the appointment we walked out of the store with a replacement phone ($180) and within an hour her data was restored from the cloud.

Within 5 hours, my wife had a new mobile and all her data restored.... this is why I like apple.

That's service! (take note Gerry Harvey)

 

[Paddy55]

The staff need a phone not a toy.

Oh, that's a good one

 

[oz_mark]

That's service! (take note Gerry Harvey)

Apple does have good after sales support.

There are reasons I avoid both Nokia and Harvey Norman as much as possible - after sales support. Both are terrible at it.

 

[simongr]

I have customers that will not allow I phones in there fleet.

The staff need a phone not a toy.

If they only need a phone why get a smart phone?

From my iPhone I can read emails, review documents, track changes to documents, mark up PDFs, manage my diary and on... There isn't much I can't do that I can do on my laptop.