Are you Going to use the COVIDsafe App?

[serfty]

I did research this a fair bit and I decided I was happy to:

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www.health.gov.au

 

[nutwood]

I'm wondering if the overall long term effect of Covid-19 will be positive, in that it's a massive publicity campaign on how to prevent viruses spreading.
Once you factor in the leverage effect of seasonal flu and consider the question over the number of years that Covid-19 is likely to be a hot topic...?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I'm wondering if the overall long term effect of Covid-19 will be positive, in that it's a massive publicity campaign on how to prevent viruses spreading.
Once you factor in the leverage effect of seasonal flu and consider the question over the number of years that Covid-19 is likely to be a hot topic...?

Yes I think so in Australia.

However countries like the UK, Italy etc will take a long while to get back on the positive side of the health ledger.

 

[p--and--t]

I'm not in the medical or research field, just a relatively poorly informed observer of the human condition.

My guessimate longer term is once a couple of waves go through & some immunity builds & memories fade; complacency will re-emerge.

If the pandemic figures die down to a similar (or even higher) mortality rate than seasonal flu in a bad year people will go back to old habits within 5-10 years.

SARS and MERS are out there and people are dying in the ME almost on a daily basis from MERS but not a peep in the media.

SARS was only 10 years ago and 2019 everyone (aside from some Asian nationals) was blindly going along doing their unsanitary thing until Covid came along.

If flu 2020 vaccine adoption repeats the same volumes in future years (and as Covid targets largely the same cohort as the flu) we may see a merging of the two death rates to something of the same order or slightly more as previously seen for seasonal flu.

 

[TheRealTMA]

It‘s quite disturbing that ministers knew that the app really just doesn’t work on iPhones and kept insisting that we must download it for our own protection.

Sheesh. Do it once and get it right.

 

[jb747]

It now seems that the UK is slowly giving up on the idea of a tracing app that they centrally control. Apparently they are “looking at” using the Apple and Google models. They’ve hit that same snag. Their model simply does not work on iPhones.

 

[jb747]

Sheesh. Do it once and get it right.

That would be an admission of error, something that is unlikely.

No matter what they say, any insistence on the centralised server model, when the decentralised is supported by the makers of the operating system, smacks of either incompetence or underhandedness. Make your own choice.

 

[get me outta here]

What! I didn’t realise it was a serious glitch. So there’s no point to it on iPhones? May as well delete till it is fixed then.

It‘s quite disturbing that ministers knew that the app really just doesn’t work on iPhones and kept insisting that we must download it for our own protection.

Sheesh. Do it once and get it right.

 

[moa999]

It‘s quite disturbing that ministers knew that the app really just doesn’t work on iPhones and kept insisting that we must download it for our own protection.

Sheesh. Do it once and get it right.

Due to Apple restrictions they've done the best they can, and that's why they ask Apple uses to keep the app in the foreground.
It's still better than nothing, and when Apple finally release their API the CovidSafe app can be whitelisted and will just need a simple update, it will work much better, and we already have 5+ million downloads

 

[GoldCanyon340]

That would be an admission of error, something that is unlikely.

No matter what they say, any insistence on the centralised server model, when the decentralised is supported by the makers of the operating system, smacks of either incompetence or underhandedness. Make your own choice.

I'd throw a healthy dose of exceptionalism in there that would probably swamp incompetence or underhandedness. And I say that as a joint UK-Aus national.

 

[jb747]

Due to Apple restrictions they've done the best they can, and that's why they ask Apple uses to keep the app in the foreground.
It's still better than nothing, and when Apple finally release their API the CovidSafe app can be whitelisted and will just need a simple update, it will work much better, and we already have 5+ million downloads

Foreground. Screen ON, and phone unlocked. You'd be lucky to get single digit percentages of people to do that.

 

[tgh]

You'd be lucky to get single digit percentages of people to do any that.

I agree… but they now have a substantial number of apps installed and have the opportunity to update them.
I do understand that the opportunity for Government bashing must not be missed , but If they had waited until everyone
was out of jail the uptake may have been minimal.

 

[get me outta here]

I make a point that my iphone is always locked unless I am actually doing something on it. It’s a security measure obviously especially when travelling.

 

[OATEK]

I make a point that my iphone is always locked unless I am actually doing something on it. It’s a security measure obviously especially when travelling.

But if you were going to be fairly stationary somewhere (say on a train to work like some just have too) then the phone would likely be open in the hand (based on my careful observations while travelling on such modes of transport). So in lots of the very situations where the app is useful it could be running on an iPhone that is unlocked and open. Seems obvious to me that this is the sort of situation the app is designed for, but YMMV.

 

[get me outta here]

I may be overly cautious, but I don’t want any grabbing of my phone from one of those cunningly, criminal cowardly people, if it is on. It’s a habit I would find very hard to break now. In fact, I ‘correct‘ friends who put their phones down on the table without locking them.

But if you were going to be fairly stationary somewhere (say on a train to work like some just have too) then the phone would likely be open in the hand (based on my careful observations while travelling on such modes of transport). So in lots of the very situations where the app is useful it could be running on an iPhone that is unlocked and open. Seems obvious to me that this is the sort of situation the app is designed for, but YMMV.

 

[OATEK]

I may be overly cautious, but I don’t want any grabbing of my phone from one of those cunningly, criminal cowardly people, if it is on. It’s a habit I would find very hard to break now. In fact, I ‘correct‘ friends who put their phones down on the table without locking them.

I get that, but I was talking about situations where people have the phone on & open, in their hand, while going about their business. Surely this is the sort of situation where the app could come into its own.

 

[nutwood]

286 votes cast so far. How many login to AFF each day?

Edit: 4 days left in which to cast a vote.

I'm thinking there may be some statistical bias happening here? If someone has no interest in the app, they are less likely to investigate a thread discussing it. That would correlate with the high numbers supporting the app.

 

[serfty]

Poll extended for a week.

 

[Hvr]

I wonder what event will occur first?

The poll ending?
Or the app working properly?

I think the former is more likely.

 

[OATEK]

I wonder what event will occur first?

The poll ending?
Or the app working properly?

I think the former is more likely.

My app works fine - greats me each time I go to open the screen.

 

[Daver6]

I wonder what event will occur first?

The poll ending?
Or the app working properly?

I think the former is more likely.

App works perfectly. Since downloading it I haven't contracted COVID-19, not even once.