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We’re allowed up to our max of 40kts on a 45m wide or greater runway (MEL). Our only restriction on FOs is operating into 30m wide runways (BNK, AYQ, etc) with a maximum of 10kts of crosswind.

I personally love the challenge of a good crosswind and am happy that there are some captains willing to let us fly it. Others don’t have the same confidence and that’s ok also.
Single runway ops in syd yesterday rwy25, 40kt westerly, max xwind 20kt (while I was there). FR24 showed a few go-rounds but I didn't get to actually see them. VERY turbulent a few minutes after takeoff.
Fyi, everyone can get the current airport ATIS on pre-recorded ph...
SYD 02 9556 6566
BNE 07 3866 3731

Add note, obviously the FYI not intended for you @AviatorInsight
 
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As a pax in our Grumman Tiger, I HATE cross wind landings!
I guess you don't mean this sort of Grumman Tiger:
What’s happens if you land in the crab?
In an aircraft that's meant to do it, not a great deal. For instance the geometry of the 747, with the aft body gear, tended to pull it straight; as long as you didn't let the nose gear touch down, of course.

Basically though, if you land with the crab (and you MUST hold the nose gear up), then the energy vector will be down the runway, and whilst it will be skidding a bit, a smooth rudder application will straighten it all up. I once had two landings in Brisbane on the same day, and both had crosswinds around the aircraft max of 38 knots. I tried both techniques, and there was little difference between them (though the passengers may have felt differently...I remember it was a pretty horrid day).
 
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I saw a post on Reddit yesterday with a pic of an A380 landing on the East-West runway at SYD. I thought the runway was way too short for this beast but got a reply (from a pilot I assume) saying with headwinds it's doable.
 
What do ground crew ( yellow vests) do in the coughpit during a 'turn' between international flights, say overseas?

The guy yesterday at JNB was busying himself with all the panels both above and below the front screens.
 
I saw a post on Reddit yesterday with a pic of an A380 landing on the East-West runway at SYD. I thought the runway was way too short for this beast but got a reply (from a pilot I assume) saying with headwinds it's doable.
It's always about weight. The A380 approach speeds are quite slow (especially compared to the 747), so the short runways are mostly usable for landings, as long as there isn't a tailwind. On the other hand, unless the wind is extremely strong, the margins will be much better using a longer runway, which is why pilots will require any longer runway. Just because you can do something, doesn't make it a good idea.

The 380 has far better take off performance than either the 747 or the 777.

What do ground crew ( yellow vests) do in the coughpit during a 'turn' between international flights, say overseas
Hide. Fill in paperwork.

The guy yesterday at JNB was busying himself with all the panels both above and below the front screens.
There's a computer that they might want to access, but it's in the back of the coughpit. If they're touching something on any of the front panels, then it means they're trying to fix something.
 
There's a computer that they might want to access, but it's in the back of the coughpit. If they're touching something on any of the front panels, then it means they're trying to fix something.
The nose of the plane was right up against the terminal pier so I was sort of interested in what he was doing there and he was definitely fiddling around with the both the upper and lower front panels. From his actions I thought he might be cleaning the buttons. 🤣
 
Fyi, everyone can get the current airport ATIS on pre-recorded ph...
SYD 02 9556 6566
BNE 07 3866 3731

Add note, obviously the FYI not intended for you @AviatorInsight

LiveATC has current ATIS for all major Australian airports, and smaller ones too. Free to listen to online or a couple of dollars to download the app.

I use it on days I go flying before driving out to airport. Also has other frequencies so I can get an idea what other aircraft are potentially going to be in the air with me. This is in the GA world.
 
Download the NAIPS app, which is an Airservices platform. It’s very user friendly, punch in the airport code and the latest briefing pops up right away.
 
Download the NAIPS app, which is an Airservices platform. It’s very user friendly, punch in the airport code and the latest briefing pops up right away.

The Naips app is actually private software developed by an (ex?) RAAFie under the business name OzRunways. I say ex as I met him on a RAAF course about 10 years ago and he offered everyone free subscriptions, but I assume he’s out now, rolling in money.

It does use the Airservices platform in the background, now licensed (initially it wasn’t!)
 
Years ago there also used to be an app for Android called Track Direct, which was simply a web interface to the Airservices NAIPS page (using your normal NAIPS login). It couldn't do things such as SPFIB, but for location briefings, ARFOR's etc it worked well enough.

Not sure if it's still in existence today, not currently an Android user.
 
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The nose of the plane was right up against the terminal pier so I was sort of interested in what he was doing there and he was definitely fiddling around with the both the upper and lower front panels. From his actions I thought he might be cleaning the buttons. 🤣
He wouldn't have been cleaning them. That never happens. I'm sure there are entire civilisations living on most buttons.
Does this mean that the A380 has more drag than the 747?
No. It means it has a lower wing loading (mass divided by wing area). At a normal landing weight for both types, the 747 has about 20-25% more weight per unit area of wing than the 380.
 
JB do you know this fella, he has a book on the shelf at BIGW, A380 pilot.

Are you releasing a book also? 😂

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Those low wings are already pretty close to the ground, and crosswind makes it seem even closer....
And following a week of crosswinds that have well and truly exceeded cross wind landing limit, I engaged Mr Seat 0A in some discussion about cross wind landing and he told me that he now prefers the "dip wing into wind" approach to cross wind landing over the "crab and push it round" - which is probably why I have felt that the wings seem even closer to the ground.
 
Space here does seem to be rather tight!
When you’re flying a big jet, space is always tight. Looking at the google images of the airport, there are no obstruction clearance lines (they don’t exist everywhere, but are helpful when they do - Tullamarine), and there actually doesn’t appear to be adequate room to pass behind any aircraft at or near a holding point. Just because ATC have cleared you to do something, does not mean that clearance will exist.

It reminds me of a little game that the last incarnation of Ansett used to play. Many of their aircraft, when cleared to a holding point, would stop short, with their tail over the obstruction line behind them. You’d then have to stop, and/or get ATC involved to get them to taxi forward. I wondered if it would all end in tears…

I saw Air India have a very near miss with this sort of thing in Melbourne. A pair of 737s were at the E holding point, with the second over the obstruction line. There may have been sufficient room if they’d bunched up a bit, but… In any event, the AI 787 thought that he’d go off centreline, and around them. We called that there wasn’t room on the radio, and ATC told him to stop. An airline to avoid.

And a second one to avoid, at all costs, is Asiana. They had a very serious go at running into my 767 in Singapore. Utter incompetence combined with arrogance.
 
I saw Air India have a very near miss with this sort of thing in Melbourne. A pair of 737s were at the E holding point, with the second over the obstruction line. There may have been sufficient room if they’d bunched up a bit, but… In any event, the AI 787 thought that he’d go off centreline, and around them. We called that there wasn’t room on the radio, and ATC told him to stop. An airline to avoid.
The very high accident rate of Air India is enough to scare me off - including twice crashing aircraft into Mont Blanc!

When you’re flying a big jet, space is always tight. Looking at the google images of the airport, there are no obstruction clearance lines (they don’t exist everywhere, but are helpful when they do - Tullamarine), and there actually doesn’t appear to be adequate room to pass behind any aircraft at or near a holding point. Just because ATC have cleared you to do something, does not mean that clearance will exist.
That hold point and the lack of clearance behind effectively creates a hazard that has been engineered in rather than engineered out.
 
@AviatorInsight , Hobart airport is having its runway strengthened, in thirds, it seems. Northern ~third (830m according to reports) being done first, so that segment is closed; I saw a bunch of vehicles and people there today. Middle segment to be done over nights, in summer.

Does this pose any particular issues, esp in poor weather? Still get away with fully laden B737s or will fuel have to be managed a bit? I guess the machinery and people have to clear off for an aircraft takeoff/landing?


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We can only fantasise that the B787s and A350s that the airport says can then use the runway, will do so!
 

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