Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[DC3]

NSW imposing $11k fines or 6 months imprisonment for anyone from a hotspot trying to enter NSW.

Yes, but they are maximum penalties that may be imposed. Most criminal offences don’t have an outcome anywhere near the maximum.

Fines/gaol are not are a deterrent to many, unfortunately.

 

[get me outta here]

Perhaps they will put them in the IBIS and push boxes of food through the letterbox.

Did they check jail capacity before announcing this?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Ouch

 

[get me outta here]

REPTILE POP UP

Get ready for some slithery slimey school holiday fun!

Canberra Reptile Zoo are bringing lots of cool reptiles to Majura Park Shopping Centre this Winter. You will get the chance to meet some bearded dragons, snakes, lizards, turtles and more!

When: Monday 6th July to Sunday 12th July

Time: 10am-2pm

Where: Outside Toymate

Cost: Free!

Please practice physical distancing when viewing the reptiles. (Somehow I doubt the kids will do that).

 

[blackcat20]

Our LGA and the other nearby are no longer on the hotspot list. Sounds like they had a small number of cases caused by the clusters on the other side of the city.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Ouch View attachment 221481

Yesterday Pete Hilliard gave a version of this on the Project. Lol

 

[RooFlyer]

So, it seems a another illogical and yes, “silly” argument below.

I think you missed the point of the post, but never mind.

 

[RooFlyer]

My theory: Victoria was just unlucky this time. Tasmania has had an outbreak too.

Yes. Suburban Melbourne will always be a more difficult place to contain, but in the NW Tas outbreak (which involved hospitals and health workers), the Tas Premier acted swiftly to lock down the region, closed the affected hospitals and got the ADF to assist straight away.

 

[jakeseven7]

Yes. Suburban Melbourne will always be a more difficult place to contain, but in the NW Tas outbreak (which involved hospitals and health workers), the Tas Premier acted swiftly to lock down the region, closed the affected hospitals and got the ADF to assist straight away.

Yes, all 30 people in the NW of Tasmania, a regional part of Australia with access points you could count on two hands were locked down swiftly (and still some managed to escape the net).

Agreed, I think a metropolitan lock down of near 350,000 people is going to be a little trickier.

 

[RooFlyer]

Yes, all 30 people in the NW of Tasmania, a regional part of Australia with access points you could count on two hands were locked down swiftly (and still some managed to escape the net).

Agreed, I think a metropolitan lock down of near 350,000 people is going to be a little trickier.

It wasn't the mechanics of the lock-down I was getting at, which I stated was obviously a greater challenge in Melbourne, but the swiftness of the action by the Premier. Seeing that metro Melbourne was always going to be much harder, the response from Andrews should have been 'harder and faster' as they say. But sure, easy to be expert in hindsight, but its not as if Andrews was dealing with the first break-out.

 

[PineappleSkip]

Wow. Just read the last month’s posts, about 2/3 coming in the last week...

Nailed down dates for planned visit to NSW, and no surprise at the Qld border restrictions being lifted. The enhanced ban in travellers from anyone in Vic looks like pure politics, rather than health based. If implemented under the existing framework, they would declare the whole of Victoria a hotspot, but the idea of hotspots was to identify COVID affected areas of concern within States. Looking at the cases in provincial Victoria I can’t see any more basis to exclude travellers from Mildura or Wodonga than Renmark or Albury.

No new Qld directions out yet following yesterday’s announcement, but some eyebrow raising official advice. Did a doubletake when I saw this one.

Queensland residents must not travel to a local government area in Victoria.

Must not travel there? So just how would they prevent me, once I escape Qld, and what’s the sanction? Not surprised the actual directions aren’t out yet.

cheers skip

 

[jakeseven7]

Wow. Just read the last month’s posts, about 2/3 coming in the last week...

Nailed down dates for planned visit to NSW, and no surprise at the border restrictions being lifted. The enhanced ban in travellers from anyone in Vic looks like pure politics, rather than health based. If implemented under the existing framework, they would declare the whole of Victoria a hotspot. Looking at the cases in provincial Victoria I can’t see any more basis to exclude travellers from Mildura or Wodonga than Renmark or Albury.

No new Qld directions out yet following yesterday’s announcement, but some eyebrow raising official advice. Did a doubletake when I saw this one.



So just how would they prevent me, and what’s the sanction? Not surprised the actual directions aren’t out yet.

cheers skip

Qld has a knife edge election coming up soon its very important to look good, details don't matter.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Wow. Just read the last month’s posts, about 2/3 coming in the last week...

Nailed down dates for planned visit to NSW, and no surprise at the Qld border restrictions being lifted. The enhanced ban in travellers from anyone in Vic looks like pure politics, rather than health based. If implemented under the existing framework, they would declare the whole of Victoria a hotspot, but the idea of hotspots was to identify COVID affected areas of concern within States. Looking at the cases in provincial Victoria I can’t see any more basis to exclude travellers from Mildura or Wodonga than Renmark or Albury.

No new Qld directions out yet following yesterday’s announcement, but some eyebrow raising official advice. Did a doubletake when I saw this one.



Must not travel there? So just how would they prevent me, once I escape Qld, and what’s the sanction? Not surprised the actual directions aren’t out yet.

cheers skip

I might have not heard correctly, but the sanctions are 14-day quarantine and $4000 if you lied on their arrival card about being in Melbourne/Victoria. I guess if you said on the card that you were in Melbourne/Victoria and they imposed self-isolation requirement, a breach of that isolation requirement is another fine per instance/day.

 

[p--and--t]

Some South Australians not playing very nice with people living on the border with a legitimate *and approved* reason to travel. Sad!

Victorians allegedly abused, cars vandalised when crossing into SA

Locals along the SA-Victoria border have reported outbursts of abuse and vandalism aimed at some travellers who have crossed into SA towns, amid confusion about new coronavirus travel arrangements.

www.abc.net.au

 

[RooFlyer]

Perhaps they were displaying certain football club colours?

 

[33kft]

It must have been the Victorians' fault, South Australians haven't put a foot wrong the entire pandemic. Reference: this thread

 

[jase05]

It must have been the Victorians' fault, South Australians haven't put a foot wrong the entire pandemic. Reference: this thread

Not true.
We have made several errors and most of us have taken issues with the Premier at one time or another.

 

[PineappleSkip]

the sanctions are 14-day quarantine and $4000 if you lied on their arrival card about being in Melbourne/Victoria

Indeed, but 14 days quarantine is the price of returning from a declared hotspot (and has been for months), with the penalty for false declaration, yeah fair enough. BTW it's effectively an application for a visa to return, not an arrival card. You can apply for a visa on arrival at Qld, but they warn of delays in approval .

However the advice indicates that Queenslanders are not allowed to travel to Victoria at all which is something altogether different. I suspect it's more fuzzy big talk advice; there has been a lot of that. Look forward to seeing the actual directions when they come out.

 

[jakeseven7]

Indeed, but 14 days quarantine is the price of returning from a declared hotspot (and has been for months), with the penalty for false declaration, yeah fair enough. BTW it's effectively an application for a visa to return, not an arrival card. You can apply for a visa on arrival at Qld, but they warn of delays in approval .

However the advice indicates that Queenslanders are not allowed to travel to Victoria at all which is something altogether different. I suspect it's more fuzzy big talk advice; there has been a lot of that. Look forward to seeing the actual directions when they come out.

Please, it’s just Anna talking to certain groups of paranoid QLD’ers to get re-elected. I bet it will be self declared, no 100% screening so if someone really wanted to get through they could - I don’t think many will try anyway.

 

[VPS]

Some South Australians not playing very nice with people living on the border with a legitimate *and approved* reason to travel. Sad!

Victorians allegedly abused, cars vandalised when crossing into SA

Locals along the SA-Victoria border have reported outbursts of abuse and vandalism aimed at some travellers who have crossed into SA towns, amid confusion about new coronavirus travel arrangements.

www.abc.net.au

It is hard down there because many people cross the border to work.

Perhaps they were displaying certain football club colours?

Doesn’t even need to be interstate. Mt Gambier used to have a few teams and the rivalry was fierce