Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[jakeseven7]

Here is the ABC continuing their fear campaign in NSW. What a headline. And it carries on.



Sounds terrible doesn't it. Cases and hospitalisations above the delta peak.
But further down some other facts.


Not only that but -


So cases >1000% of the Delta peak daily cases.

Hospitalisations up 6% on the delta peak.

ICU cases down ~ 60%

Ventilated patients down ~ 75%

And that despite 72% of ICU admissions in the last 19 days being due to the delta strain.

As time goes by and we finally look back at the pandemic the press will have lots of questions to answer and should make a lot of apologies. No wonder we have so much fear.

What they also need to do is break down the hospital numbers as well because about half of people presenting don’t even know they have covid, they broke their arm skateboarding or whatever and got picked up as having covid on admission.

I know the hospital still has to put them in covid protocol care / IC protocol etc as well - but they are in hospital WITH covid not FOR covid.

I’m not sure why the government isn’t providing this detail or maybe it is and the media isn’t using it because it’s not scary enough…

 

[antycbr]

What they also need to do is break down the hospital numbers as well because about half of people presenting don’t even know they have covid, they broke their arm skateboarding or whatever and got picked up as having covid on admission.

I know the hospital still has to put them in covid protocol care / IC protocol etc as well - but they are in hospital WITH covid not FOR covid.

I’m not sure why the government isn’t providing this detail or maybe it is and the media isn’t using it because it’s not scary enough…

It's on the agenda today at National Cabernet if I recall correctly.

When you have widespread community transmission some of these people are going to bump into the healthcare system for all sorts of reasons.

 

[moa999]

Evidently UK tests have a QR code so you can upload a positive result.

How many do though.

 

[antycbr]

How many do though.

In Australia a lot of people are getting PCR tests as they need it to access the isolation payments offered by the state governments or to show their employer so that they can take sick leave. Not all employers trust RATs.

I wonder if in the UK there are similar links between registered RAT outcome and benefits or sick leave access?

 

[Tiki]

Australia is top 10 for new "cases" but death rates way below comparable countries.

 

[Must...Fly!]

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Australia is top 10 for new "cases" but death rates way below comparable countries.

Vaccines work!

 

[Milboo]

That’s a very one dimensional (and flawed) way of looking at the data, especially when you look at tests pm and cases pm.

 

[jakeseven7]

In Australia a lot of people are getting PCR tests as they need it to access the isolation payments offered by the state governments or to show their employer so that they can take sick leave. Not all employers trust RATs.

It's a tough one because it is so easy to game.... and people will I'm sure...

 

[serfty]

Australia is top 10 for new "cases" but death rates way below comparable countries.

So from that:

For those 22 counties listed, Australia has the lowest death rate (87 per Million pop.)

Also, the lowest "Serious/Critical" rate of 90 per Million pop. (Presumably 'Deaths' is not a subset of 'Serious/Critical'

Lowest (detected) case rate of 21K per Million pop.

Where does the screen shot come from and what period does it cover?

 

[Jenya]

it's coming form here

 

[andye]

It's on the agenda today at National Cabernet if I recall correctly....

In the 70s UK, government/union meetings used to be called "beer and sandwiches". Good to see Aus making it classier (and that your autocorrect knows you )

 

[VPS]

How many do though.

Apparently you don't have to prove the result so even if you're positive you can upload the result and say it's negative and get a code so you can go to a certain venue

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I believe the UK includes positive rapid tests in their official results.

If so then the UK infection rate is probably below Australia's at present.

Evidently UK tests have a QR code so you can upload a positive result.

In Australia it is only pcr positives that are recorded as a case.

see above

 

[jase05]

SA to send QR codes for close contacts to go in and collect a rat for free.

Should be implemented within the next week.

 

[ethernet]

Just In. 'Ridiculous proposal': Labor calls on PM to abandon cash payment plan for rapid antigen tests

Are they nuts: Swap you one rat kit for a pack of cigarettes or one shout. I though Centrelink debit card was crazy, and now they think free cash to the leaners will solve matters. I wonder if the racing and gamboling commisioners recommended that solution, so money can get back into poker machines. Yeah, I have a dozen - meet me at Bondi Plaza... Clearly the new fortune teller has read the tea-leaves well.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Looks like a bit under 65k positives reported in Australia today, maybe around 215k tests.

Possibly under 3000 hospital and under 200 ICU across Australia.

 

[OATEK]

I believe the UK includes positive rapid tests in their official results.

If so then the UK infection rate is probably below Australia's at present.

Evidently UK tests have a QR code so you can upload a positive result.

In Australia it is only pcr positives that are recorded as a case.

But given that the AU approach is for people who test positive with a RAT to have a PCR to confirm, I am not sure there is a meaningful difference.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Just noticed Qld's almost 50% positivity rate (49.4%) - 6781 positives from 13772 tests.

 

[OATEK]

Just noticed Qld's almost 50% positivity rate (49.4%) - 6781 positives from 13772 tests.

Close friends have been on the Gold Coast where they reported mask wearing was minimal, whereas across the border in NSW is far more prevalent. They have both tested positive after a few days up there.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

A quick question or discussion: when will testing numbers (in NSW and Vic) go back to a higher level again?

Recently too many interstate travel PCR tests, then RATs introduced to deal with that, then pathology appear to need to change their methodology because of the high positivity rate.

We must be getting close to the end of the 'holiday' season. Is there a pathway to getting back to higher testing capacity with reasonable results turnarounds?

 

[OATEK]

A quick question or discussion: when will testing numbers (in NSW and Vic) go back to a higher level again?

Recently too many interstate travel PCR tests, then RATs introduced to deal with that, then pathology appear to need to change their methodology because of the high positivity rate.

We must be getting close to the end of the 'holiday' season. Is there a pathway to getting back to higher testing capacity with reasonable results turnarounds?

You seem to only be factoring the technical elements, and not the human ones. People are learning to live with it, only testing of they have too. There will be other factors as well I am sure.