Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

It is still early days, but i find it interesting the contrast in public statements of certain experts and the official published figures.

Contrary to horrendous forecasts, initially at least, compared to previous years the level of suicide in AU has dropped by a third during the first half of this year.

From recollection, (and I'm definitely not an expert, but have had fleeting engagement with various experts on suicide prevention and attended several conferences on the topic over the years), there is a tendency for suicide rates to decrease during major crises - such as wars and the like, which runs contrary to what you would immediately think - but I guess people are focussed on the existential threat (and the community) rather than personal day to day problems. That doesn't mean the trend will continue in that direction once that crisis has passed.

 

[p--and--t]

From recollection, (and I'm definitely not an expert, but have had fleeting engagement with various experts on suicide prevention and attended several conferences on the topic over the years), there is a tendency for suicide rates to decrease during major crises - such as wars and the like, which runs contrary to what you would immediately think - but I guess people are focussed on the existential threat (and the community) rather than personal day to day problems. That doesn't mean the trend will continue in that direction once that crisis has passed.

Interesting. maybe focusing on a different threat to your existence takes away from idle thoughts of your own problems and reduces their significance in your thoughts.

 

[Pushka]

All footage Ive seen on tv is of people waiting in their cars to be tested - what happens to people like myself who dont own a car? Are there not walk in cliniques anywhere?

Any Public Hospital will likely have a walk in COvid clinic that is external to the usual hospital entrance

 

[I love to travel]

Interesting. maybe focusing on a different threat to your existence takes away from idle thoughts of your own problems and reduces their significance in your thoughts.

I work in the field. Suicides are down. There has been a marked increase in severity of episodes and symptoms for many people that already had a preexisting moderate to severe illness. Won't make a comment about the worried well ie people getting stressed about their social status, no access to beautician etc....

 

[teammongo]

All footage Ive seen on tv is of people waiting in their cars to be tested - what happens to people like myself who dont own a car? Are there not walk in cliniques anywhere?

Have a look at your state government health site. They should have info for you.

For nsw - have a look at Nsw covid clinics

TM

 

[Lynda2475]

or nsw - have a look at Nsw covid clinics

I dont need a test, but it looks like if that changes in the future I would have to mask up and uber/taxi to get to one, as none in my suburn or immediate surrounding suburbs - closest is a public hospital that is 15-20 min drive away.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

What is happening in NSW !! from news.com.au =

" There are now 21 coronavirus infections linked to the Casula pub, with NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant telling reporters today that the race was on to find “patient zero”.
"How the cluster is handled will no doubt signal whether we’re still moving toward eradicating COVID-19 like Australia’s other states and territories, or heading down the same path as Victoria – where another 177 infections were reported yesterday and Premier Daniel Andrews threatened a stage four lockdown if things aren’t brought under control.
But as venues linked to new infections in NSW emerged on Monday, a turnaround in the public health advice to patrons could signal the state is waving the white flag in the face of a second coronavirus wave."
With coronavirus cases in NSW remerging, Atlassian founder Mike Cannon-Brookes has argued the entire state should lockdown. And now.
Cannon-Brookes tweeted Monday night that a return to lockdown for NSW could be “inevitable”, arguing it will be “less sucky” if we shut down now instead of waiting for infections to spike or the economy to take a greater hit.

 

[jase05]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282814220304650246

 

[blackcat20]

All footage Ive seen on tv is of people waiting in their cars to be tested - what happens to people like myself who dont own a car? Are there not walk in cliniques anywhere?

There are definitely walk in clinics around, I went to one in Melbourne.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Coverage of the Andrews press conference started late..so I missed the number he exactly said. Covidlive showing 257 cases for Vic though..without a source.

270 new #COVID19Aus cases in

Victoria (+257 total) • 28 linked to known outbreaks • 242 under investigation • -13 reclassified


So that is 270 new cases

So an increase.

 

[Lynda2475]

Yesterdays lower Vic numbers probably more to do with the weekend than genuine reduction, given the numbers have increased again today.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

1,803 active cases + 21,995 tests + ~66 recoveries + 13 hospitalised (85) + 10 ICU (27)

That is a lot in ICU now.

In the first spike peak ICU was 18. So 27 is a high number.

EDIT: While initially reported as 27, ICU cases are now showing as 26.

 

[Bundy Bear]

1,803 active cases + 21,995 tests + ~66 recoveries + 13 hospitalised (85) + 10 ICU (27)

That is a lot in ICU now.

In the first spike peak ICU was 18. So 27 is a high number.

Quick tell skynews this is worse than a flu.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Yesterdays lower Vic numbers probably more to do with the weekend than genuine reduction, given the numbers have increased again today.

Yes in part (Sat to Sunday), which is why I also monitor the positivity rate. Today (which is Monday's data) the numbers were slightly less tests again than for Sunday, but with a higher infected rate. So the positivity rate is actually higher.

Today's tests number are slightly less than the day before. The positivity rate is higher.

Mon 13 Jul	168	22,943	0.73 %
Tue 14 Jul	257	21,995	1.17 %

That is the highest positivity rate since 13th April, and back then who could get tested was much stricter and so with today's testing regime positiviity rate back then probably would have been lower.

The positivity rate is trending upwards (is accelerating) and that is not a good sign at all. To gain control you need for it to be decreasing.

Fri 3 Jul	65	24,430	0.27 %
Sat 4 Jul	101	25,553	0.40 %
Sun 5 Jul	67	21,597	0.31 %
Mon 6 Jul	124	24,528	0.51 %
Tue 7 Jul	164	26,554	0.62 %
Wed 8 Jul	118	29,424	0.40 %
Thu 9 Jul	156	21,785	0.72 %
Fri 10 Jul	281	37,588	0.75 %
Sat 11 Jul	181	27,169	0.67 %
Sun 12 Jul	239	30,195	0.79 %
Mon 13 Jul	168	22,943	0.73 %
Tue 14 Jul	257	21,995	1.17 %

 

[Himeno]

I must be one of the few remaining people in Australia who hasn’t been to the Crossroads pub in the last month

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282816073448882176

I haven't been there either. Other then the airport, I've only been to Sydney twice in 20 years.

 

[Hvr]

Quick tell skynews this is worse than a flu.

If my television ever showed that rubbish I would need to decontaminate it. With extreme prejudice.

 

[jase05]

Premier Marshall has just announced the SA borders with NSW and ACT won’t be opening next week

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Reading between the lines on today's presser on controls on staff not moving between aged care facilities, it would seem that this surprisingly may still have been occurring.

 

[Pushka]

Premier Marshall has just announced the SA borders with NSW and ACT won’t be opening next week

And I just happened to be there looking for the Covid Car parked at the airport. Premier Marshall in tan trousers and blue jacket with back to me and his clone to his left.

 

[VPS]

And I just happened to be there looking for the Covid Car parked at the airport.

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well judging from the view out my window right now I guess there won't be any planes flying around