Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[kamchatsky]

Premier Marshall has just announced the SA borders with NSW and ACT won’t be opening next week

So glad that I went to ADL for a weekend in early Jan when I could ..... I don't think I will be going back to ADL soon.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well I was just looking at the Victorian daily stats, and noticed that there are now 21 people on ventilators, which is quite alarming.

85 in hospital
26 in ICU
21 on ventilators

 

[drron]

And this is why NSW has acted on hotels.
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The Golden Sheaf,Double Pay.Used to be a regular there in Uni days.
They were fined for this.

 

[jase05]

Ah nah.

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Flights have been coming and going, fog has cleared right off now. Luckily a couple of freighters got in just before flights were halted this morning though

 

[dajop]

It is not just the community that Bachar Houli, in terms of his faith.

Bachar is extremely well known in Vic, and so his mum being in ICU will it make it a lot more relatable to virtually everyone that it could be their mum in ICU. It puts a face to it.

Yes, but in the context of the rumour and scuttlebutt (and there is plenty of that going around albeit not in print) there's a potential reaction amongst certain groups of "there you go, it just proves it's a problem with people in that faith, not my problem" (and I am not saying that it is my view, you only need to look at what's happening in Russia, Brazil, USA, India and the Middle East to know this disease doesn't pick and choose favourites based on anything other than behaviour - but it is a very possible, if not probable, that some people have this reaction to the story).

But let's hope that reaction is minimal and on balance as I said still a good message to get out there. AFL is a great leveller in Victoria - of people from different backgrounds, socioeconomics, religions. Even for those who detest the sport, you just can't escape it

 

[33kft]

there you go, it just proves it's a problem with people in that faith, not my problem

The quote above (attributed to unnamed sources) is correlation, not causation. What spread the virus this time might not be what spreads it next time. The problem is humans. If one thinks those people in areas where they haven't seen cases for months are acting rationally in pubs and nightclubs I have to ask, are they all the same ethnicity/religion? The scapegoat is way off here, it's a pandemic accelerating rapidly with a bunch of people who but for the grace of $DEITY have no local cases and they act like they're somehow immune.

Stupidity.

 

[DC3]

Would that not require someone to know who Bachar's Houli is?

A star of some sort.

I'm not a fan of sport in general.

And not residing in VIC.

 

[Pushka]

Flights have been coming and going, fog has cleared right off now. Luckily a couple of freighters got in just before flights were halted this morning though

I can imagine the passengers (if any) on the SQ flight thinking they were landing in Adl and ending up in Sydney Quarantine.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Still no more cases in Canberra, but it’s early days.....

 

[blackcat20]

Some of the locations they put these testing clinics is confusing.
Canberra has 3 hospitals and 4 nurse practitioner run walk in centers. Only 1 of them has Covid testing (and it isn't the hospitals).
They have a drive thru testing center at the showgrounds (EPIC) and a testing clinic at the Aboriginal health and community center.
Then there are 2 testing clinics at regular GPs.

ACT Health then opened 2 more testing locations over the weekend after the new cases came out late last week. One at the temporary 51 bed Covid Surge Centre and one at a Child & Family Centre (which I didn't even know existed prior to the extra testing site announcement, and this location appears to be the closest to me).

Canberra currently has, 2 by appointment only, 3 walk in, 1 drive thru and 1 both walk in and drive thru.

Last week, I asked ACT Health what Canberra's testing capacity was, and they only said that the EPIC drive through and the Western Creek Walk in had a daily capacity of 500. No mention of the other clinics or what the test processing rate was (or if that was 500 each for those 2 sites, or 500 total).


It's all good if they put in extra testing sites (such as the drive through site they put in at the SW Sydney pub), but even if you take 10,000 tests a day, can they process those 10,000 tests that same day?

They also seem to open and close testing clinics at the drop of a hat. Our shopping centre drive through testing site closed months ago. Then our nearest walk in closed when they opened a new drive through. But you generally cant take babies/toddlers to a drive through.

 

[dajop]

Correlation, not causation. What spread the virus this time might not be what spreads it next time. The problem is humans.

Yes the problem is humans. Which was sort of my point. But I've got to say you eliminated most of what I said in quoting me, and completely misrepresented what I was saying, perhaps not deliberately. You quoted the one bit I was suggesting could be the view of some people and didn't even include the quote marks around this - making it appear that it is tually my view. But it would be foolish to think some people aren't taking this view that "it's not my problem it's their's".

The good thing the premier and CHO have been at pains to point out this affects everyone, and have consistently stuck to that message.

 

[p--and--t]

That is probably at least 80% of people in Vic.

And within his faith, even the non footy aware will no doubt be more aware of it now.

PS: I assume that you are not a fan of AFL

I had to google his name to find out who he was.

I've lived in Melbourne 20+ years, and have a generally low opinion of many of the Australian Fatuous Lamentables

 

[SydneySwan]

I was listening to Steven Miles, QLD deputy premier this morning. He made it sound like a sports event the way he went through the number of active cases in Queensland and then compared that number to the number of active cases in NSW and then Victoria. It took parochialism to another level.

One snippet of information though was particularly bad news for some Queenslanders. If you are in NSW and have visited the designated Sydney hotspots then when you return to Queensland you will be placed in 14 days hotel quarantine at your own expense. Of course if you are not a Queenslander you will be denied entry. Not sure what the unintended consequences of this will be - refugee camps on the NSW - QLD border? Queenslanders seeking asylum in NSW?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I had to google his name to find out who he was.

I've lived in Melbourne 20+ years, and have a generally low opinion of many of the Australian Fatuous Lamentables

Are of his faith then? As the two groups I mentioned were AFL followers AND non-footy aware people of his faith.

If not, then are amongst the 20% who will not have heard of him

 

[p--and--t]

The quote above (attributed to unnamed sources) is correlation, not causation. What spread the virus this time might not be what spreads it next time. The problem is humans. If one thinks those people in areas where they haven't seen cases for months are acting rationally in pubs and nightclubs I have to ask, are they all the same ethnicity/religion? The scapegoat is way off here, it's a pandemic accelerating rapidly with a bunch of people who but for the grace of $DEITY have no local cases and they act like they're somehow immune.

Stupidity.

If we were going to pick on religions (which is totally and utterly misguided and pointless and not saying you did), I have gained the impression rightly or wrongly from many media reports that nearly all the outbreaks in an educational context in Vic before the recent Islamic college were in the vast majority expensive private Christian establishments with a smattering of government non-sectarian schools.

Pretty sure covid doesn't have any convictions other than to find a host, preferably human, that doesn't social distance and doesn't practice hand hygiene.

Totally surprised we haven't had major outbreaks in (non-government) towers in the Docklands and Southbank areas of Melbourne where young students are still socialising in groups in apartments regardless of gov regulations. Just have to scan a few Instagram accounts to see how rife it is.

 

[33kft]

But I've got to say you eliminated most of what I said in quoting me, and completely misrepresented what I was saying, perhaps not deliberately.

Perhaps the assumption was that by quoting you I was disagreeing with your point or attributing that statement to you. I wasn't. I just found that statement to resonate with my own observations of people's beliefs, so I quoted it. No hard feelings I hope, @dajop.

 

[Hvr]

I've lived in Melbourne 20+ years, and have a generally low opinion of many of the Australian Fatuous Lamentables

Keith Dunstan lives!

The Anti-Football League | Founded 1967

Anti-Football League - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[p--and--t]

And I just happened to be there looking for the Covid Car parked at the airport. Premier Marshall in tan trousers and blue jacket with back to me and his clone to his left.

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I note from your pic the Premier and his media pack don't seem to think social distancing or masks are required any more. With that attitude it only needs one or two asymptomatics to enter SA and SA will be in the same position within a couple of weeks as Melbourne.

 

[p--and--t]

Keith Dunstan lives!

The Anti-Football League | Founded 1967

Anti-Football League - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for that link, a group of like minded people, I might join.


Sounds perfect - The Anti-Football League (AFL) members have fought hard to maintain an immunity to this unfortunate affliction which affects many tens of thousands of Australians. League members are united by the common understanding that there is more to life than the ability to kick a pigskin between two white posts.

 

[SydneySwan]

Mrs SS and I are driving up to northern NSW starting in 7 days. Mrs SS has indicated she would like to spend one day in Queensland on the Gold Coast. We live in Sydney north shore about 40kms from the Crossroads Hotel which neither of us have ever visited. I am idly wondering if the Queensland border will be closed;

1). Before we head north on July 21.
2). The say before we intend to cross the border.
3). 5 minutes before we try to cross the border.
4). Remains open.

For the long stretch of time when NSW had almost no cases except for overseas visitors in hotel quarantine I was very critical of AP's closed border policy. However in the current situation with NSW struggling with the Crossroads outbreak I will concede she would have good reason to act.