Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

l.So GPS tracking or spend many billion dollars with more deaths and cases.

But haven't you heard? Covid's just a big conspiracy to take away our civil liberties

I know GPS tracking will not sit well with the ultra's (ultra right wing libertarians and ultra left wing radicals) but it may be a price some people have to pay with their liberty for a short period of time, to allow the bulk of the population much greater liberty over a much longer period of time.

 

[dajop]

Hence my ideal solution of a bond.

edit: Vic positives seem to behave differently to the Rest of Australia positives.....

I wonder if demographics are play here, i.e. the demographics of those effected in NSW are different to those in Vic. A lot of restaurant spread in Sydney might suggest a more affluent section of the community more able to afford to stay at home than poorer households, where the breadwinner felt the need to continue to work to support their family (until the government started providing payments for those without access to sick leave).

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Be like Taiwan.Don'tr a mask on public transport NT3000-15000 fine (AUD 140-700).

Taiwan to implement heavier punishment for mask-lesspublic transport passengers | Taiwan News | Apr. 3, 2020 15:04

Staff will insist on donning a mask, but a maximum fine of NT$15,000 could follow: Health minister | Apr. 3, 2020 15:04

www.taiwannews.com.tw

And if you are in Mandatory quarantine you are up for a huge fine and possibly a gaol sentence.You are checked upon a few times a day and GPS tracked as well.

In Taiwan, the pandemic is playing out very differently. What does life look like?

Cellphones tracked, restaurants with X's taped on every other chair, thermometers to enter a building. Taiwan shows that the post-virus normal is different.

www.nbcnews.com

Taiwan used police surveillance, government tracking, and $33,000 fines to contain its coronavirus outbreak

Critics say the Taiwan's success with the coronavirus has come at the expense of its citizens' privacy.

www.businessinsider.com

So Taiwan with a population close to 24 million has had 474 case of Covid with 7 deaths as of yesterday.And much less economic damage as well.So GPS tracking or spend many billion dollars with more deaths and cases.

isnt Australia’s anti-mask at least $1000 In every jurisdiction?
gps tracking is being considered for Vic’s positive isolation dodging cohort. Which might be a good idea, to make it less resource intensive.

 

[p--and--t]

I think Dan dropped enough hints this morning about deep dives into the data, concern of the problem currently seeming intractable and conference calls with the PM.

I'm expecting some biggish announcements either Sunday or Monday with the next move on restrictions. Panic buying again Tuesday?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I think Dan dropped enough hints this morning about deep dives into the data, concern of the problem currently seeming intractable and conference calls with the PM.

I'm expecting some biggish announcements either Sunday or Monday with the next move on restrictions. Panic buying again Tuesday?

I felt Vic premier indicating the decision/ announcement would be tomorrow....but maybe as late as end of the day

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I wonder if demographics are play here, i.e. the demographics of those effected in NSW are different to those in Vic. A lot of restaurant spread in Sydney might suggest a more affluent section of the community more able to afford to stay at home than poorer households, where the breadwinner felt the need to continue to work to support their family (until the government started providing payments for those without access to sick leave).

IT feels that way based on the press conferences, but any anti-establishment person will tell you it’s their way of hiding the truth.

 

[trevella]

I wouldn't be making plans for anything much before 16th September if I lived in Melbourne...

 

[dajop]

Rumour on the Age website, that there will be Stage 4 restrictions imposed in Melbourne for 6 weeks as early as Wednesday, shutting down more businesses, reducing public transport and and also putting the rest of the state into Stage 3 again (what Melbourne's in now).

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Rumour on the Age website, that there will be Stage 4 restrictions imposed in Melbourne for 6 weeks as early as Wednesday, shutting down more businesses, reducing public transport and and also putting the rest of the state into Stage 3 again (what Melbourne's in now).

Melbourne is Stage 3 (plus masks)

edit haha lol.....I misread the brackets as a question lol.

 

[oz_mark]

Rumour on the Age website, that there will be Stage 4 restrictions imposed in Melbourne for 6 weeks as early as Wednesday, shutting down more businesses, reducing public transport and and also putting the rest of the state into Stage 3 again (what Melbourne's in now).

I'd say if they decide to go to stage 4, then they should go as long as needed to knock it on the head completely.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Rumour on the Age website, that there will be Stage 4 restrictions imposed in Melbourne for 6 weeks as early as Wednesday, shutting down more businesses, reducing public transport and and also putting the rest of the state into Stage 3 again (what Melbourne's in now).

News and the herald sun reporting similar. Everything closed except supermarket, pharmac_, petrol, maybe hardware stores for tradespeople, cafe and restaurants for takeaway (delivery? My question)

 

[lovetravellingoz]

News and the herald sun reporting similar. Everything closed except supermarket, pharmac_, petrol, maybe hardware stores for tradespeople, cafe and restaurants for takeaway (delivery? My question)

Supermarkets need to get their groceries from others.

There is a whole food supply chain including the farmers/producers. Though what to do with abattoirs will be top of mind at present.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From Vic DHHS
My bolding

My Comment: Given the coughulative number of cases in aged care and even allowing for the high proportion of staff the daily death toll looks set to be maintained for some time yet.

Media release
1 August 2020

Victoria has recorded 397 new cases of coronavirus since yesterday, with the total number of cases now at 10,931.
The overall total has increased by 354 due to 43 cases being reclassified – largely due to duplication.

Within Victoria, 37 of the new cases are linked to outbreaks or complex cases and 360 are under investigation.

There have been three new deaths from COVID-19 reported since yesterday. They were a woman aged in her 90s, a man in his 80s and a woman in her 80s. Two of the three new deaths are linked to known outbreaks in aged care facilities. To date, 116 people have died from coronavirus in Victoria.
In Victoria at the current time:

• 1841 cases may indicate community transmission
• 5919 cases are currently active in Victoria
• 379 cases of coronavirus are in hospital, including 41 in intensive care
• 4696 people have recovered from the virus
• Of the total cases, 10,072 cases are from metropolitan Melbourne, while 620 are from regional Victoria
• Total cases include 5406 men and 5416 women
• More than 1,633,900 tests have been processed
• Total number of healthcare workers: 1075, active cases: 637
• There are 1008 active cases relating to outbreaks across aged care facilities

Cases currently linked to public housing in North Melbourne, Flemington and Carlton are as follows:

• 311 cases are residents of various public housing towers in North Melbourne and Flemington. Investigations are continuing into how these cases are linked.
• 66 cases are residents of various public housing towers in Carlton. Investigations are continuing into if and/or how these cases are linked.

Active aged care outbreaks with the highest coughulative case numbers are as follows:

• 134 cases have been linked to St Basil’s Home for the Aged in Fawkner
• 118 cases have been linked to Epping Gardens Aged Care in Epping
• 105 cases have been linked to Estia Aged Care Facility in Ardeer
• 94 cases have been linked to Kirkbrae Presbyterian Homes in Kilsyth
• 86 cases have been linked to Estia Aged Care Facility in Heidelberg
• 63 cases have been linked to Menarock Life Aged Care Facility in Essendon
• 60 cases have been linked to Glendale Aged Care Facility in Werribee
• 56 cases have been linked to Outlook Gardens Aged Care Facility in Dandenong North
• 54 cases have been linked to Aurrum Aged Care in Plenty
• 53 cases have been linked to BaptCare Wyndham Lodge in Werribee

New cases in other aged care facilities include two cases linked to Uniting AgeWell in Kingsville, two cases linked to Twin Parks Aged Care Centre in Reservoir, and single cases linked to Highwood Court Aged Care in Burwood, St Vincent’s Aged Care in Eltham, Little Sisters of the Poor St Jospeh’s Home in Northcote and Doutta Galla Yarraville Village.

Cases currently linked to key outbreaks are as follows:

• 184 cases have been linked to Al-Taqwa College
• 134 cases have been linked to Bertocchi Smallgoods in Thomastown
• 84 cases have been linked to JBS in Brooklyn
• 68 cases have been linked to Australian Lamb Company in Colac
• 40 cases have been linked to Melbourne Health Royal Park Campus
• 33 cases have been linked to Woolworths Distribution Centre Mulgrave
• 25 cases have been linked to Nino Early Learning in Bundoora
• 19 cases have been linked to Ausfresh in Broadmeadows
• 18 cases have been linked to Dowell Windows in Bayswater
• 17 cases have been linked to Linfox warehouse in Truganina
• 16 cases have been linked to Serco in Mill Park
• 14 cases have been linked to Golden Farms Poultry in Breakwater

 

[I love to travel]

Well today will be interesting wonder how much sleep Dan got last night?

 

[Pushka]

Getting the feeling in SA that it will be todays announcement of stage 4. It said cafes and restaurants to be closed except takeaway which for me begs the question - were they still open for dining? Bars and hotels?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Getting the feeling in SA that it will be todays announcement of stage 4. It said cafes and restaurants to be closed except takeaway which for me begs the question - were they still open for dining? Bars and hotels?

More twitter reports saying Victoria’s tougher restrictions will be revealed today....

There were also lots of anecdotal comments of Melbourne Stage 3 this time being busier with people than the first time around when the whole of Australia was effectively under Stage 3.

As I said overnight but in a different aspect, Victoria needs a reset.

 

[Pushka]

More twitter reports saying Victoria’s tougher restrictions will be revealed today....

There were also lots of anecdotal comments of Melbourne Stage 3 this time being busier with people than the first time around when the whole of Australia was effectively under Stage 3.

As I said overnight but in a different aspect, Victoria needs a reset.

It does but I think the ones who may be critical in stopping the spread, have stopped listening. And the language used by the Premier and Health just isnt forceful enough and the threat of mere fines just isnt cutting it anymore. The Premier getting angry at the get go, blaming the people, hasnt been helpful.

 

[Princess Fiona]

If this is stage 3 lockdown then it isn’t enough...

 

[jakeseven7]

ABC Insiders saying announcement on the in VIC around lunchtime:

- Restrictions on operation of abbatoirs and call centres
- Restrictions on Uber and Taxi (defined as PT)
- Restrictions on general retail
- Restaurants and Cafes ‘stricter’ contactless takeaway delivery

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

It does but I think the ones who may be critical in stopping the spread, have stopped listening. And the language used by the Premier and Health just isnt forceful enough and the threat of mere fines just isnt cutting it anymore. The Premier getting angry at the get go, blaming the people, hasnt been helpful.

Also adding in the PM‘s comment at the outset (primacy) that ‘every job is essential’ is still ringing in everyone’s ears(and minds).

I guess it shows going back to lockdown a second time is much harder.

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ABC Insiders saying announcement on the in VIC around lunchtime:

- Restrictions on operation of abbatoirs and call centres
- Restrictions on Uber and Taxi (defined as PT)
- Restrictions on general retail
- Restaurants and Cafes ‘stricter’ contactless takeaway delivery

I read that and said to myself.....that’s not really saying much......