Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[get me outta here]

Some were taken away by police.

 

[drron]

Yet today was the 75th Anniversary of the end of WW2 and no large gatherings allowed for that.

 

[p--and--t]

Yet today was the 75th Anniversary of the end of WW2 and no large gatherings allowed for that.

Would there have been a large gathering, allowed or not?

Plenty of apathy (and ignorance) around for events that occurred so long ago. Eleventh of November remembrance also waning rapidly in last 20 years, many under 30 would ask "what's that all about".

 

[Flying mermaid]

Would there have been a large gathering, allowed or not?

Plenty of apathy (and ignorance) around for events that occurred so long ago. Eleventh of November remembrance also waning rapidly in last 20 years, many under 30 would ask "what's that all about".

aren’t ANZAC day attendances growing (pre Covid)

 

[Pushka]

Yet today was the 75th Anniversary of the end of WW2 and no large gatherings allowed for that.

Which would be somewhat palatable if others weren't granted freedoms.

Interestingly the recent positive case of a returned traveller in Quarantine only tested positive on Day 12. Which takes me back to the issue I posed months ago as to why other states didnt test travellers before they were released. This person in SA is being held in quarantine for I think another 10 days.

 

[Pushka]

Would there have been a large gathering, allowed or not?

Plenty of apathy (and ignorance) around for events that occurred so long ago. Eleventh of November remembrance also waning rapidly in last 20 years, many under 30 would ask "what's that all about".

So if we jump up and down and threaten we are likely to be granted our wants. Gosh, that is the behaviour as parents we have to extinguish during the terrible two's. AKA tantrums.

And I think many would have attended todays commemoration if given the chance.

 

[p--and--t]

So if we jump up and down and threaten we are likely to be granted our wants. Gosh, that is the behaviour as parents we have to extinguish during the terrible two's. AKA tantrums.

And I think many would have attendee if given the chance.

I can't think of a freedom that has been won in history in any country without a proportion of the population "jumping up and down".

 

[p--and--t]

aren’t ANZAC day attendances growing (pre Covid)

ANZAC day by contrast is a celebration of a myriad of different events over an extensive period of time with many living participants (aka Vietnam and many others). Not many who went to WWII still around.

 

[drron]

ANZAC day by contrast is a celebration of a myriad of different events over an extensive period of time with many living participants (aka Vietnam and many others). Not many who went to WWII still around.

But lot's of families of those who did.

 

[Pushka]

I can't think of a freedom that has been won in history in any country without a proportion of the population "jumping up and down".

And I cant think of a worst time in our living history where such behaviour could cause so much havoc for those who have fought for our country and freedom.

 

[get me outta here]

Inflammation and brain damage due to Covid. It can be picked up at minute 44 min to hear some of the neurological damage symptoms put up a very good argument against ‘herd immunity’ for me. But, some good discussions across the whole time of the podcast.

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/sites/default/files/media/podcasts/episodes/Naked_Scientists_Show_20.08.11.mp3

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Today's Vic DHHS Report.


Media release

15 August 2020

Victoria has recorded 303 new cases of coronavirus since yesterday, with the total number of cases now at 16,517.
The overall total has increased by 283 due to 20 case being reclassified.

Within Victoria, 29 of the new cases are linked to outbreaks or complex cases and 274 are under investigation.

There have been four new deaths from COVID-19 reported since yesterday: Two men and one woman aged in their 80s and one woman aged in her 90s.
Two of the four new deaths are linked to known outbreaks in aged care facilities. To date, 293 people have died from coronavirus in Victoria.

In Victoria at the current time:

• 3383 cases may indicate community transmission
• 7875 cases are currently active in Victoria
• 661 cases of coronavirus are in hospital, including 41 in intensive care
• 8121 people have recovered from the virus
• More than 1,937,700 tests have been processed – an increase of 23,262 since yesterday

Of the total cases:

• 15,163 cases are from metropolitan Melbourne, while 997 are from regional Victoria
• Total cases include 7961 men and 8512 women
• Total number of healthcare workers: 2259 active cases: 1178
• There are 2041 active cases relating to aged care facilities

Active aged care outbreaks with the highest coughulative case numbers are as follows:

• 204 cases have been linked to Epping Gardens Aged Care in Epping
• 190 cases have been linked to St Basil’s Homes for the Aged in Fawkner
• 155 cases have been linked to Estia Aged Care Facility in Ardeer
• 130 cases have been linked to Kirkbrae Presbyterian Homes in Kilsyth
• 124 cases have been linked to BaptCare Wyndham Lodge Community in Werribee
• 108 cases have been linked to Outlook Gardens Aged Care Facility in Dandenong North
• 101 cases have been linked to Estia Aged Care Facility in Heidelberg
• 93 cases have been linked to Twin Parks Aged Care in Reservoir
• 91 cases have been linked to Arcare Aged Care Facility in Craigieburn
• 83 cases have been linked to Glendale Aged Care Facility in Werribee

In Victoria there are currently 87 active cases in residential disability accommodation.

• Total Resident cases: 22; Total Staff cases: 67
• Active cases in NDIS homes: 64 (19 residents)
• Active cases in ‘transfer’ homes (State regulated/funded*): 24 (3 residents)
• Active cases in state government delivered and funded homes: 1

The Victorian Government last year transferred 547 disability residential homes and staff to five non-government providers which represents approximately 43 per cent of the accommodation market.

Residents in these homes are NDIS clients, and these residential services are currently funded as part of Victoria’s annual $2.5 billion contribution to the NDIS. These homes are scheduled to be transferred to the NDIS by the end of the year.

The total number of people receiving disability accommodation/respite services in Victoria is approximately 6,500.
Cases currently linked to key outbreaks are as follows:

• 203 cases have been linked to Bertocchi Smallgoods in Thomastown
• 186 cases have been linked to Al-Taqwa College
• 142 cases have been linked to JBS Brooklyn
• 142 cases have been linked to Royal Melbourne Hospital Royal Park campus
• 29 cases have been linked to Hazeldene's Chicken Farm in Bendigo
• 28 cases have been linked to Werribee Mercy Hospital
• 27 cases have been linked to Coles Laverton Distribution centre
• 21 cases have been linked to Jayco in Dandenong

The department is also investigating cases linked to Frankston Hospital.

 

[p--and--t]

But lot's of families of those who did.

As with everything in life, it's horses for courses driven by background, experiences, education, and personal choices.

My three parents, mother, father, step-father all emigrated after WWII. Two from the bombings of London and one from a POW camp in Europe. My grandfather died as a result of a U-boat encounter, & my grandmother emigrated to AU with her children (at the time young adults)

My siblings and I had Nov 11 drummed into us, Aug rarely mentioned of any significance, ANZAC day acknowledged. School streaming processes at the time denied me any access to history lessons and my parents after their experiences reluctant to discuss the war in any measure other than rationing hardships.

My children and grandchidren passingly remember Nov 11 but celebrate Anzac day religiously even though none of them have "served".

YMMV.

 

[Flying mermaid]

ANZAC day by contrast is a celebration of a myriad of different events over an extensive period of time with many living participants (aka Vietnam and many others). Not many who went to WWII still around.

I actually don’t care about any of them, as a migrant to this country and not a drop of Anglo Saxon in my very varied blood lines. What I am tired of is selective following of health advice. It should be absolute - “this is what we all need to do to keep everyone safe”. Not “well most of you need to do this, but we will turn a blind eye and cross our fingers for these other ones”.

Edit and don’t get me started on this concept if allowing people out of quarantine for fresh air and exercise because of some human rights thing that was drafted with no idea of a once in a hundred years pandemic or health emergency

 

[get me outta here]

I read somewhere that the guards had become spooked by someone who was threatening to commit suicide so they started letting people out. Unforgivable of course.

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Edit and don’t get me started on this concept if allowing people out of quarantine for fresh air and exercise because of some human rights thing that was drafted with no idea of a once in a hundred years pandemic or health emergency
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[Melburnian1]

Notwithstanding the debunking of that statement that has already occurred, don't forget that rallies were held in many major centres around AU. Singling out Melbourne to suit your argument is just disingenuous.

How can anyone 'debunk' it?

It's been admitted that those who went were one of the sources of transmission for this virus.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I read somewhere that the guards had become spooked by someone who was threatening to commit suicide so they started letting people out. Unforgivable of course.

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Edit and don’t get me started on this concept if allowing people out of quarantine for fresh air and exercise because of some human rights thing that was drafted with no idea of a once in a hundred years pandemic or health emergency

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I read that too - so many bad things over the last 6 months. However as I understand it home quarantine also allowed people to leave until quite recently because of basic rights to exercise. These are extraordinary times I think 2 weeks without leaving your home is unpleasant but achievable.

 

[get me outta here]

Here we go again. This was all handled up thread. Evidence was shown that no they did not cause infections. As much as some people might like to keep trying to convince us that they did, they did not.

How can anyone 'debunk' it?

It's been admitted that those who went were one of the sources of transmission for this virus.

 

[Pushka]

Here we go again. This was all handled up thread. Evidence was shown that no they did not cause infections. As much as some people might like to keep trying to convince us that they did, they did not.

May not have directly caused infections but it sure sent the message that if you felt strongly enough about something then it was OK to do it. This was Australia wide. However the right to exercise, amidst the general public, even when positive, seems peculiarly limited to Victoria.

 

[dajop]

I read that too - so many bad things over the last 6 months. However as I understand it home quarantine also allowed people to leave until quite recently because of basic rights to exercise. These are extraordinary times I think 2 weeks without leaving your home is unpleasant but achievable.

In a hotel room now for 5.5 days. In some countries, such as Singapore, you can't leave the hotel room - not for fresh air, not for exercise. Yet, I've still managed to do 10,000 steps a day (takes a bit of effort, and a good set of headphones). Mind you, not caring that much for getting some fresh air, the aircon in the room is much more pleasant and "fresher" than the dank humid air outside (and much cooler)