Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[jakeseven7]

New format as rolling average is so low not worth reporting or needed for the roadmap anymore.

Big testing numbers for the weekend.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

So Victoria just hoping to 27/11 for 28 days of no new cases....18 days to go.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW 0 new cases, 7 from international quarantine

 

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[jakeseven7]

So Victoria just hoping to 27/11 for 28 days of no new cases....18 days to go.

QLD will find another 'rule' to block them even if they do reach the mystery case hurdle I'm sure.

But if they decide not to invent another rule, it actually looks pretty good that VIC will make it before NSW which will create a very interesting announcement if Sydney is still classified a hotspot due to the ongoing cases in SW/W Sydney...

 

[Lynda2475]

SMH states "A single positive result was found in Victoria overnight, but it has been dismissed as a case of ‘viral shedding’ from someone who already had the virus. "

I believe in NSW such a case would be counted.

 

[dajop]

I believe in NSW such a case would be counted.

There's your problem with Queensland!

IIRC, an expert panel in Vic is now reviewing such cases to classify them as a genuine new case or virus shedding.

 

[jakeseven7]

SMH states "A single positive result was found in Victoria overnight, but it has been dismissed as a case of ‘viral shedding’ from someone who already had the virus. "

I believe in NSW such a case would be counted.

Why? There have been cases like this in NSW as well as well as weak positives etc

(Or do you mean QLD would count it and hold it against NSW )

 

[Lynda2475]

In NSW if they discover an old case, not previously reported it would be counted in the states total, not excluded like in Victoria. Whilst they might not be currently contagious or active the discovery adds to the picture of spread nationally.

Im not saying it should reset any counters/restriction, but the data point should be recorded. Especially since the indiviual presented for testing after experiencing mild symptoms.

WRT Qld, there seems to be zero logic there. Qld is currently open to regional NSW which has mystery and active cases (in Moss Vale), but closed to Inner Sydney which has no mystery or active cases (all mystery and active cases being in South West, Est and North West Sydney). I seriously doubt Qld will be open to Sydney by Christmas, and dont know anyone willing to gamble on a booking, since they have not been transparent wrt to the rules for reclosing border and amount of notice etc.

 

[Pushka]

In NSW if they discover an old case, not previously reported it would be counted in the states total, not excluded like in Victoria. Whilst they might not be currently contagious or active the discovery adds to the picture of spread nationally.

Im not saying it should reset any counters/restriction, but the data point should be recorded. Especially since the indiviual presented for testing after experiencing mild symptoms.

WRT Qld, there seems to be zero logic there. Qld is currently open to regional NSW which has mystery and active cases (in Moss Vale), but closed to Inner Sydney which has no mystery or active cases (all mystery and active cases being in South West, Est and North West Sydney). I seriously doubt Qld will be open to Sydney by Christmas, and dont know anyone willing to gamble on a booking, since they have not been transparent wrt to the rules for reclosing border and amount of notice etc.

Didn’t this case get recorded as a positive in WA as they were in quarantine at the time?

 

[Lynda2475]

Didn’t this case get recorded as a positive in WA as they were in quarantine at the time?

If this is the case, why were they released and allowed to travel to Vic if still experiencing symptoms, so much so they felt the need to go to for another test in Vic? Iternational arrivals who test positive shouldnt be allowed to leave quarantine until they test negative and have no symptoms.

 

[Pushka]

If this is the case, why were they released and allowed to travel to Vic if still experiencing symptoms, so much so they felt the need to go to for another test in Vic? Iternational arrivals who test positive shouldnt be allowed to leave quarantine until they test negative and have no symptoms.

I agree. So many conflicting issues raised.

 

[andye]

If this is the case, why were they released and allowed to travel to Vic if still experiencing symptoms, so much so they felt the need to go to for another test in Vic? Iternational arrivals who test positive shouldnt be allowed to leave quarantine until they test negative and have no symptoms.

No idea about this case but its possible to test negative then positive shortly later without a concern for a new infection

 

[dajop]

Isn't it something to celebrate that we're having an argument whether one case should be counted or not? An amazing achievement! The alternative is that it could be lost in 8000 new cases for the day (as it would be if the infection rates were similar the two largest countries in the anglosphere...)

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Nsw mystery case watch

Today’s reports indicate:
- 1 in the past 7 days
- 1 in the period 8-14 days
- 0 in the period 15-28 days
- 34 older than 28 days but since before Crossroads emerged.

With yesterday’s/Friday’s mystery case, there is about 6 hours left to find the link for the purposes of Qld’s border clock

Nsw mystery case watch

Today’s reports indicate:
- 1 in the past 7 days
- 1 in the period 8-14 days
- 0 in the period 15-28 days
- 34 older than 28 days but since before Crossroads emerged.

Just confirming that the latest NSW mystery case is classified as South Western Sydney local health district and Wingecarribee local government area, so I guess a way for Qld to sheet the latest mystery case back to Sydney.

 

[Lynda2475]

According to QLD Declared Hotspots Wingecarribee with 5 active (including 1 mystery case) and Goulburn Mulwaree with 1 active case are not consdered a hotspots.

The below are the Queensand decalred NSW hotspots, Ive bolded and added the number of active cases for the handful of LGAs that arent zero.

• Bayside (0)
• Blacktown (1) - Western Sydney
• Burwood (0)
• Camden (10) - South West Sydney
• Campbelltown (5) - South West Sydney
• Canada Bay (0)
• Canterbury-Bankstown (4) - South West Sydney
• coughberland (2) - Western Sydney
• Fairfield (4) - South West Sydney
• Georges River (0)
• Hornsby (0)
• Hunters Hill (0)
• Inner West (0)
• Ku-Ring-Gai (1) - North West Sydney
• Lane Cove (0)
• Liverpool (5) - South West Sydney
• Mosman (0)
• North Sydney (0)
• Northern Beaches (0)
• Parramatta (0)
• Penrith (0)
• Randwick (0)
• Ryde (0)
• Strathfield (0)
• Sutherland Shire (0)
• Sydney (0)
• The Hills Shire (0)
• Waverley (0)
• Willoughby (0)
• Wollondilly (0)
• Woollahra (0)
• Unincorporated (Sydney Harbour) (0)

Not heard health district used as a hotspot definiation - Queensland have zero basis for claiming Moss Vale or Goulburn as being part of greater Sydney. And with the exception of Paramatta, 23 of the LGAs listed above with 0 cases havent had any actives withint he last 28 days.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

If this is the case, why were they released and allowed to travel to Vic if still experiencing symptoms, so much so they felt the need to go to for another test in Vic? Iternational arrivals who test positive shouldnt be allowed to leave quarantine until they test negative and have no symptoms.

Just on why the need to get tested again.

In Vic everyone with a symptom is expected to get tested even if they have previously been tested or even if they have recovered.


You test with any sympton. ANY.


The vast majority who get tested do not have covid . Common cold. Hayfever...allergy....
Just a headache etc

Some who get tested are patients with no symptoms, but get tested as part of the process.

This has brought up many cases from people who originally tested positive a while back.


Sometimes they cannot be certain and they become new cases. The two current mystery cases are such instances where could not rule out it being that the person was reinfected.


Anyone who is considered to be contagious must be isolated.

Some people who are not contagious have continued to test positive for months.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Zero cases at Koonoomoo..

With the Melbourne metro boundary gone we escaped to go offgrid camping on the Murray River for a week. It feels so good to be a lot further than 5km from home again.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Just reading up on the returned Traveller from WA.

They are a previous case and are not a locally acquired community case. It is not considered to be a possisible re infection such as the two current unknown cases in Vic.

So they either caught the virus in quarantine or prior to entering quaratine.

So if your logic is that they should be counted as a new Vic case then you would also need the quarantine cases throughout Australia counted as local community cases.

However that is not how the chos classify cases.

 

[jakeseven7]

Huge testing again
Mystery case drops to one
Zero cases for VIC