Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Pushka]

I would agree with the ACT part. We went into Civic yesterday to do some Christmas shopping and apart from a few signs limiting numbers in shops and the like, it just felt very normal. Mr FM says any social distancing at the markets has just about disappeared. I guess we have had it so easy for such a long time that people have forgotten.

Sadly, it takes an outbreak for that to change. Sure did in SA. But because we have now had 7 days of no positives, plus all the negative issues surrounding the comms, then slowly slowly we are already forgetting. Doesn't take long.

 

[tgh]

I have remarked here many times about the laid back attitude of Qlders.
Following the world covid numbers, it seems as if we live on a different planet.
I guess all we can do is hope (some will also pray) that our redemption continues and that the vaccine works with minimal side effects.
I have started to look a cruise and other holiday options, guess that makes me an optimist..

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I have remarked here many times about the laid back attitude of Qlders.
Following the world covid numbers, it seems as if we live on a different planet.
I guess all we can do is hope (some will also pray) that our redemption continues and that the vaccine works with minimal side effects.
I have started to look a cruise and other holiday options, guess that makes me an optimist..

Not sure I would consider a cruise.

Did you see the reporter who went on a cruise recently? They did a pre-test and a Day 1 test on board. Yet still positive cases emerged on board. It seems another couple got infected plus the index passenger case’s “traveling party”.

I think it’s this reporter The Points Guy I think he did the cruise early/mid November

 

[love_the_life]

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest, to be honest. If anything, the fact that operational airline crew are flying 15 hour sectors to Australia without the concern shows what a non-event it largely is.

Even though those airline crew are COVID positive? 15 hours in a a tin tube with infection floating around? You can have it. Not taking the risk yet.

 

[tgh]

There is cruising and then there is.. er cruising.
The headline "petri dish" bulk people carriers vessels are not our destination of choice.
We may do a Kimberley cruise next year (with mostly au guests) , and then look at some further horizons.
It all revolves around the efficacy of the vaccine, the whole freaking world is sweating on the vaccine….

 

[33kft]

Bit of a stuff up, it seems that some International passengers were able to fly to Melbourne after landing in Sydney without going into Quarantine.

Immediate quarantine alert for Sydney to Melbourne flight passengers

All passengers and crew who flew to Melbourne on VA 838 on Saturday are being asked to self-isolate after two international travellers boarded the flight in Sydney without quarantining in NSW.

www.theage.com.au

The airline is following up with passengers now who are advised to contact DHHS.

The warning affects all passengers and crew who travelled on flight VA 838, which left Sydney at midday and arrived in Melbourne at 1.25pm on Saturday.

 

[N860CR]

In their words (or to the effect) from another AFF thread: “We are in a pandemic. People die”.

Yes. And that’s 110% correct. And if you think otherwise then you’re extremely naive. Unfortunately people will die. That’s what happens. Can’t stop the world for that, it’s about managing it.

The fact that people, like yourself clearly, think we can go through a pandemic without people dying is very counterproductive.

 

[jase05]

Bit of a stuff up, it seems that some International passengers were able to fly to Melbourne after landing in Sydney without going into Quarantine.

Immediate quarantine alert for Sydney to Melbourne flight passengers

All passengers and crew who flew to Melbourne on VA 838 on Saturday are being asked to self-isolate after two international travellers boarded the flight in Sydney without quarantining in NSW.

www.theage.com.au

The airline is following up with passengers now who are advised to contact DHHS.

The warning affects all passengers and crew who travelled on flight VA 838, which left Sydney at midday and arrived in Melbourne at 1.25pm on Saturday.

Aren’t NZ travellers allowed to enter Australia quarantine free as part of the NZ bubble or am I missing something?

 

[N860CR]

Yep. And this is the only way such a horrible, horrific, death-inducing event occurred. These people arrived in New Zealand however long ago, did their quarantine and have now flown to Sydney and subsequently Melbourne as they’re entitled to do. But because they’re foreign, we’re in a mass panic.

But, of course, people like me are the problem for approaching this rationally.

 

[33kft]

Aren’t NZ travellers allowed to enter Australia quarantine free as part of the NZ bubble or am I missing something?

No I don't think you're missing anything, but given the few exceptions to the rule are New Zealand (or diplomats as the ACT is well aware) and nobody has suggested these were New Zealanders, it's likely irrelevant.

I mean, surely we're not now suggesting that there's low risk of international travellers being infected with COVID? It's where the majority of our cases come from since Victoria's lockdown ended.

Edit: In fact they are almost certainly not New Zealanders as the entire reason for the alarm was that they skipped the mandatory quarantine they were required to complete:

The warning was triggered by two international travellers who dodged quarantine after arriving in Sydney and instead hopped on the flight to Melbourne. They are now in mandatory quarantine in Melbourne.

 

[jeza]

Aren’t NZ travellers allowed to enter Australia quarantine free as part of the NZ bubble or am I missing something?

Where did you get the information that they flew in from NZ?

 

[Lynda2475]

ADF escort international arrivals onto busses to hotel quarantine. How did these passengers manage to bypass ADF then get to domestic?

Did they lie and say were from NZ or use diplomatic immunity?

 

[trevella]

I mean, surely we're not now suggesting that there's low risk of international travellers being infected with COVID?

So what do you consider ‘low’ in this context?

 

[33kft]

So what do you consider ‘low’ in this context?

What point are you trying to make? What's with the pedantry? I don't think it is very hard to understand what has happened here. People who were meant to be in quarantine were not and that has caused alarm. I'm not interested in debating what the word low means with you.

 

[trevella]

What point are you trying to make? What's with the pedantry? I don't think it is very hard to understand what has happened here. People who were meant to be in quarantine were not and that has caused alarm. I'm not interested in debating what the word low means with you.

Thank you, I now have a very clear idea as to the rationality of your opinions.

 

[jase05]

Where did you get the information that they flew in from NZ?

Sorry my mistake, I only heard some chatter whilst out tonight and and it was inferred they were from NZ but have since read all online reports and no mention of their country of origin anywhere

 

[Flying mermaid]

ADF escort international arrivals onto busses to hotel quarantine. How did these passengers manage to bypass ADF then get to domestic?

Did they lie and say were from NZ or use diplomatic immunity?

Any diplomats coming to Canberra have to drive in a private vehicle and quarantine at home, they can’t fly. I would assume the same would apply to diplomats going anywhere else. No doubt we will get an explanation tomorrow, but it seems a bit disappointing......

 

[Flying mermaid]

Save your breath. The poster possibly doesn’t care.

In their words (or to the effect) from another AFF thread: “We are in a pandemic. People die”.

I have put him on ignore - I find his attitude quite upsetting.

 

[jeza]

Sorry my mistake, I only heard some chatter whilst out tonight and and it was inferred they were from NZ but have since read all online reports and no mention of their country of origin anywhere

All good

Couldn't see any reference in the news articles as to where the international flight was from & have noticed that quite often the "chatter" you hear is on the money, so thought I'd ask.

 

[jase05]

All good

Couldn't see any reference in the news articles as to where the international flight was from & have noticed that quite often the "chatter" you hear is on the money, so thought I'd ask.

Nah, we were out for dinner tonight and the table behind us were talking about it so definitely not from a source that had substance. Does seem very bizarre and no doubt more information will be released tomorrow