Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[jakeseven7]

Fact is the Victorian government are treating residents stranded in NSW/Brisbane like dirt and rolling out the red carpet for tennis players from around the world. Heck, Brisbane is in the middle of a 3 day lock down because of ONE case of a possible more infectious strain and Victoria slammed the door shut to anyone from there in a matter of hours!

We in QLD wrote the playbook on how to treat people with money and status ahead of our own residents and plebs, VIC has just photocopied it and run with it

 

[Must...Fly!]

The Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust (The actual venues) and the AO are different things. The AO hires out the MOPT Venues like everyone else for a wide range of purposes, including me. I have spent a few $million at MOPT myself hiring it out, plus a small amount attending events there. Never bought a ticket to the AO though as I personally am not a tennis fan.

Well I happily admit that's a few million more than I have spent hiring out MOPT venues, so you have me well and truly beaten there.

But I fail to see how that addresses my point.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well I happily admit that's a few million more than I have spent hiring out MOPT venues, so you have me well and truly beaten there.

But I fail to see how that addresses my point.

I just do not see it as an either/ or scenario.

Sport is a part of the economy just like may others sectors. I am not in the sporting industry by the way. Though I do sometimes make use of overlapping venues due their multi-purpose nature these days.

I just don't follow the logic of why just because it is a very "visible" industry that during the pandemic it does not need to be supported with measures put in place.


My personal sector is not supported at all, but I am not bitter about the support given to say Sport, Construction, Education, etc. I want as many as possible to be able to operate their businesses and to be gainfully employed.

 

[RooFlyer]

So are you arguing that things should be closed down even further? Lets destroy the economy even further is your preferred solution?

, just . Someone expresses an opinion and the hyperbole drive goes into top gear. But if I can get into the swing of things, I wonder what things like the Victorian lockdown, or even the Queensland one did for the economy? s for the growth there!

 

[TheRealTMA]

, just . Someone expresses an opinion and the hyperbole drive goes into top gear. But if I can get into the swing of things, I wonder what things like the Victorian lockdown, or even the Queensland one did for the economy? s for the growth there!

QLD is doing nicely thanks. Holiday accommodation fully booked, even Deliveroo is giving free delivery. How’s the poppy farm coming?

 

[andye]

Raina McIntyre
Sanjaya Senanayake
Peter Colignon
Tony Blakely
Adam Kamradt-Scott
Etc etc

They are alarmist and full of sh.t!

Collignon was in the Sydney Morning Herald today saying that the contact tracing did well and no need for wider lockdown

 

[drron]

The poppy farms in Tasmania are going gangbusters this year thanks to Covid.

 

[antycbr]

QLD is doing nicely thanks. Holiday accommodation fully booked, even Deliveroo is giving free delivery. How’s the poppy farm coming?

That’s certainly not what your tourism industry is saying:

Queensland tourism operators 'devastated' as Covid border closures force mass cancellations

Queensland’s tourism industry hopes travellers from other states will make up for Sydneysiders’ cancellations, but some operators say it’s too late

www.theguardian.com

Tourism operators fear 'last hope for 2020' is slipping away with new border closures

Tourism operators in Port Douglas hope the summer period can help them recoup revenue lost due to the pandemic, but new border restrictions are yet another blow to the struggling industry.

www.abc.net.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Small matter but I think the Vic Deputy CHO’s family name is Cheng with a G. imagine saying Smit instead of Smith

I couldn't find the editorial

I did find an SMH article published by the SMH yesterday though.

Earlier that day she’d received advice from the state’s public health team that recommended closing the border between Victoria and NSW.

The advice, signed off by acting Chief Health Officer professor Allen Cheng, was going to be unpopular.

The unpopular advice that led to the closure of the NSW border

The advice was going to be unpopular but it was crystal clear: in the absence of widespread coronavirus restrictions in NSW, a border closure was the only option.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Must...Fly!]

I just do not see it as an either/ or scenario.

Sport is a part of the economy just like may others sectors. I am not in the sporting industry by the way. Though I do sometimes make use of overlapping venues due their multi-purpose nature these days.

I just don't follow the logic of why just because it is a very "visible" industry that during the pandemic it does not need to be supported with measures put in place.


My personal sector is not supported at all, but I am not bitter about the support given to say Sport, Construction, Education, etc. I want as many as possible to be able to operate their businesses and to be gainfully employed.

I am not bitter about the support.

The government is insisting that no covid is the only safe amount of covid, to the extent that thousands of residents can not return home.

Therefore what I am bitter about is the incredibly sad fact that at least 1,000 people arriving from high-risk countries are coming for a short period to play tennis at the (partial) cost of the Victorian taxpayer. While thousands of those very same taxpayers aren't even allowed to return to their homes.

There is something wrong with that.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I am not bitter about the support.

The government is insisting that no covid is the only safe amount of covid, to the extent that thousands of residents can not return home.

Therefore what I am bitter about is the incredibly sad fact that at least 1,000 people arriving from high-risk countries are coming for a short period to play tennis at the (partial) cost of the Victorian taxpayer. While thousands of those very same taxpayers aren't even allowed to return to their homes.

There is something wrong with that.

It would be interesting if tennis players plus entourage are subject to the new pre-Test rule and some are positive and not allowed to board the last flight to Melbourne

 

[lovetravellingoz]

, just . Someone expresses an opinion and the hyperbole drive goes into top gear. But if I can get into the swing of things, I wonder what things like the Victorian lockdown, or even the Queensland one did for the economy? s for the growth there!

Well for a business like mine it is was no business income for all of 2020. Some I know have ceased their businesses. Some have been thriving.

Overall not good, but not disastrous for most. However the Victorian economy would have been even worse now if they had not of gone into the strict lockdown that they did.

Queensland for 1 case does seem to be an overeaction just as I said at the start of the recent Adelaide Cluster.

In NSW their escalation of cases was continuing to rise and so they pushed the local lockdown button.

In Vic second wave the surge was much greater and so the bigger button was required to turn things around.

 

[antycbr]

I am not bitter about the support.

The government is insisting that no covid is the only safe amount of covid, to the extent that thousands of residents can not return home.

Therefore what I am bitter about is the incredibly sad fact that at least 1,000 people arriving from high-risk countries are coming for a short period to play tennis at the (partial) cost of the Victorian taxpayer. While thousands of those very same taxpayers aren't even allowed to return to their homes.

There is something wrong with that.

Maybe they should try to secure a wildcard in the Australian Open?

 

[Pushka]

Se

Maybe they should try to secure a wildcard in the Australian Open?

Several of the players - the likes of Djokovic, Williams and Nadal are quarantining in Adelaide on the proviso they hold a special performance here.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

It would be interesting if tennis players plus entourage are subject to the new pre-Test rule and some are positive and not allowed to board the last flight to Melbourne

Back in mid December a number of measures were announced including that everyone must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)

Here are the main details of what players can expect:​

• A maximum of 1000 people (players and teams) will be allowed into Australia, which means players (not all of them) can be accompanied by a maximum of 2 team members
• Players must arrive in Melbourne on Jan 15 or Jan 16
• Players and one team member can train for up to five hours, but all team must stay in the hotel for the remaining 19 hours per day
• Players must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)
• Players can have a second test if they test positive for Covid-19
• If a player tests positive before the tournament (and is unable to play because of regulations) they can receive 50 percent of their prize money
• Australian Open qualifying will be played outside Australia, details of which are to be confirmed.
• The ATP Cup, two ATP 250 events and two WTA 500s will take place in Melbourne the week before the Australian Open
• One WTA tournament will happen during the second week of the Australian Open
• First-round losers in the singles events are set to receive AUD $100,000

Top players can bring only two team members
In the eight-page memo sent by Tennis Australia to players on Tuesday Australian Open organisers informed everyone concerned that the Victoria state government is capping the number of people (over the age of three) who can travel to Australia for the first Grand Slam of the year at a maximum of 1000.

As players can only havea max of two with them, and not all get that, and as they will want coaches or trainers etc with them the numbers of actual "hangers-on" is not likely to be great.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Back in mid December a number of measures were announced including that everyone must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)

Here are the main details of what players can expect:​

• A maximum of 1000 people (players and teams) will be allowed into Australia, which means players (not all of them) can be accompanied by a maximum of 2 team members
• Players must arrive in Melbourne on Jan 15 or Jan 16
• Players and one team member can train for up to five hours, but all team must stay in the hotel for the remaining 19 hours per day
• Players must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)
• Players can have a second test if they test positive for Covid-19
• If a player tests positive before the tournament (and is unable to play because of regulations) they can receive 50 percent of their prize money
• Australian Open qualifying will be played outside Australia, details of which are to be confirmed.
• The ATP Cup, two ATP 250 events and two WTA 500s will take place in Melbourne the week before the Australian Open
• One WTA tournament will happen during the second week of the Australian Open
• First-round losers in the singles events are set to receive AUD $100,000

Top players can bring only two team members
In the eight-page memo sent by Tennis Australia to players on Tuesday Australian Open organisers informed everyone concerned that the Victoria state government is capping the number of people (over the age of three) who can travel to Australia for the first Grand Slam of the year at a maximum of 1000.

As players can only havea max of two with them, and not all get that, and as they will want coaches or trainers etc with them the numbers of actual "hangers-on" is not likely to be great.

One before arrival does not necessarily mean a pre-test within 72 hours of departure (flight)

 

[jakeseven7]

Well for a business like mine it is was no business income for all of 2020. Some I know have ceased their businesses. Some have been thriving.

Overall not good, but not disastrous for most. However the Victorian economy would have been even worse now if they had not of gone into the strict lockdown that they did.

Queensland for 1 case does seem to be an overeaction just as I said at the start of the recent Adelaide Cluster. You might remember chastising me for that opinion then and supported the massive lockdown. Interesting that you seem to have changed your views so rapidly despite there being one case in Qld, whereas Adelaide had 3 on Day 1 and 13 on Day 2.

In NSW their escalation of cases was continuing to rise and so they pushed the local lockdown button.

In Vic second wave the surge was much greater and so the bigger button was required to turn things around.

One case in QLD and shutting down is only an overeaction because we simply don’t have COVIDSafe behaviours and protocols well enough adhered to here.

VIC and NSW can cope with a case or two. Probably no other state can.... well maybe SA now they’ve had their little scare are probably better behaved!

 

[Pushka]

Back in mid December a number of measures were announced including that everyone must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)

Here are the main details of what players can expect:​

• A maximum of 1000 people (players and teams) will be allowed into Australia, which means players (not all of them) can be accompanied by a maximum of 2 team members
• Players must arrive in Melbourne on Jan 15 or Jan 16
• Players and one team member can train for up to five hours, but all team must stay in the hotel for the remaining 19 hours per day
• Players must have six negative tests in all before being allowed to play (including one before arrival in Australia)
• Players can have a second test if they test positive for Covid-19
• If a player tests positive before the tournament (and is unable to play because of regulations) they can receive 50 percent of their prize money
• Australian Open qualifying will be played outside Australia, details of which are to be confirmed.
• The ATP Cup, two ATP 250 events and two WTA 500s will take place in Melbourne the week before the Australian Open
• One WTA tournament will happen during the second week of the Australian Open
• First-round losers in the singles events are set to receive AUD $100,000

Top players can bring only two team members
In the eight-page memo sent by Tennis Australia to players on Tuesday Australian Open organisers informed everyone concerned that the Victoria state government is capping the number of people (over the age of three) who can travel to Australia for the first Grand Slam of the year at a maximum of 1000.

As players can only havea max of two with them, and not all get that, and as they will want coaches or trainers etc with them the numbers of actual "hangers-on" is not likely to be great.

Except now many of the big names are quarantining in Adelaide.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

One before arrival does not necessarily mean a pre-test within 72 hours of departure (flight)

That was announced in mid-December. They may well have tweeked things since then and so I would take those measures as a minimum..

 

[jase05]

well maybe SA now they’ve had their little scare are probably better behaved!

Nope, not a mask in sight at most places even by staff. People are complying with QR code’s but SD is pretty much non existent