Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[kpc]

Shall we name and shame??? Lol

Raina McIntyre
Sanjaya Senanayake
Peter Colignon
Tony Blakely
Adam Kamradt-Scott
Etc etc

They are alarmist and full of sh.t!

 

[SydneySwan]

Yes the one with way too much make up and eye shadow!

Raina McIntyre?

 

[nutwood]

Anyone know if the VIC team processing exemption applications from Victorian citizens stranded outside Victoria works at the weekends?

Does anyone know if they work during the week?!
The processing time for residents locked out of their own State is ridiculous. Yes there's 3000 of them but there wouldn't be 3000 novel situations. Many will be almost identical. Victorian Government should have been able to assign sufficient resources to deal with that number within days.

 

[DC3]

I vote for Bill Bowtell. One of his great early predictions was that Australia would be worse than Italy. They never apologise for past forecasts being wide of the mark but expect you to believe their current view.

He would probably make a great pollie.

 

[DC3]

Anyone know if the VIC team processing exemption applications from Victorian citizens stranded outside Victoria works at the weekends?

Coronavirus Hotline on 1800 675 398 may be worth trying. It’s mentioned as a contact on this website:

Victorian Border Entry Permit | Coronavirus Victoria

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Anyone know if the VIC team processing exemption applications from Victorian citizens stranded outside Victoria works at the weekends?

The DHHS reported total of exemptions granted has increased both today and yesterday, and so that would mean that someone was working on them on both Saturday and Sunday.

 

[SydneySwan]

I visited the enclave of NNB (North Northern Beaches) in Sydney today as it came out of lockdown this morning. I was very impressed with mask compliance. As the NSW state government has so far declined to provide businesses there with any support we decided to make a contribution by spending some dollars at some of the businesses in the area.

 

[RooFlyer]

Awful lot of zero's in Melbourne lately. Why is Victoria a hotspot to WA exactly?

Do they need a reason?

 

[love_the_life]

Raina McIntyre
Sanjaya Senanayake
Peter Colignon
Tony Blakely
Adam Kamradt-Scott
Etc etc

They are alarmist and full of sh.t!

Each to their own opinion.

 

[RooFlyer]

I vote for Bill Bowtell. One of his great early predictions was that Australia would be worse than Italy.

Not an epidemiologist, but a vote for the ABC’s Norman Swan, who did something similar.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Not an epidemiologist, but a vote for the ABC’s Norman Swan, who did something similar.

He has been leading the way just about, I agree. And that's no comment on whatever medical skills he has in case anyone thought it was...

 

[Lat34]

He has been leading the way just about, I agree. And that's no comment on whatever medical skills he has in case anyone thought it was...

Postgraduate studies specialising in paediatrics

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Does anyone know if they work during the week?!
The processing time for residents locked out of their own State is ridiculous. Yes there's 3000 of them but there wouldn't be 3000 novel situations. Many will be almost identical. Victorian Government should have been able to assign sufficient resources to deal with that number within days.

I would just note that while the number of granted exemptions has been reported each day, that I am not sure if the number of processed applications has been. or even if any hint suggested as to what the success rate is.

The number of processed applications will be higher than the number of exemptions granted unless they have approved every assessed application.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I would just note that while number of granted exemptions has been reported, I am not sure if the number of processed applications has been or even if any hint suggested as to what the success rate is.

The number of processed applications will be higher than the number of exemptions granted unless they have approved every assessed application.

And yet I doubt any exemptions/approvals for Tennis players and their entourages arriving in the next few weeks remain outstanding.

Actually it's borderline reckless that the tournament is going ahead, now I think about it.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Raina McIntyre?

I’d rather 10 of her than even one Sunetra Gupta

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

There was an editorial in the SMH yesterday re Prof Chen being the one to insist to the deputy Vic Premier that hard border with all of NSW was urgently needed (despite the green zones not having any cases), stranding the many Victorians in NSW. A case of an epidemiologist not considering what a reasonable time is for people to safely drive from Northern NSW to Vic border, not considering the time it would take to ramp up testing and not considering the fact that Vic isnt able to adequately staff the permit review system which was hastily reintroduced. Over a week later and some 3K plus permits lodged but less than 200 reviewed = pitiful. Over-reaction further proved by zero cases in regional NSW including in those stranded Victorians from green zones coming down with Covid.

The Berala case that travelled to regional areas did so on 2nd Jan which was after Vic had already introduced the hard border so cant be used to justify the nonsensical decision to close to all of NSW. Those in the green zones could have been given a couple of days to get back to Vic without there being a heightened risk.

The only covid cases cases outside of Greater Sydney (including Wollongong, Central Coast and Blue Mountains) in a regional area since NB cluster began was the Bermagui one, which was actually a case of Victorians coming into NSW, not regional NSW bringing the virus into Vic.

Vic havent been able to identify a NSW resident that brought NB strain to Vic, everything points towards returing Victorians (who clearly didnt isolate after being in NB). It is Queensland in August all over again - where the Queensland border was shut to Sydney because of Queenslanders returning from Melbourne an actual hotspot (who only transited SYD).

At present only NT, Tas, ACT and Queeensland are implementing hotspot controls. Vic and WA know they dont have any legitimate evidence to close to whole of NSW, or for WA to close to all of Queensland. WA moves are predictable, as its an election winner amongst insular WA residents, rather than a genuine health consideration.

Epidemiolgiss love a disaster scenario, and have a talent for ignoring evidence that NSW have been able to manage local outbreaks, keep cases out of aged care etc. Mary-Louise McClaws is another one that loves to lead with we need stricter controls (irrespective of what is happening locally) and no consideration of impact to mental health and economic impacts which will have much more lasting impacts on the health of most Australians.

Epidemiologist have some premiers so scared, they cant even consult the premiers of the states they are locking out to check what is actually being done as opposed to a scare model the epidemiolgist has put in fron of them. Noting that to date none of these models have remotey panned out in Australia.

Ive said it before and wil say it again, I am forever grateful that I live in NSW, the state with the most pragmatic Premier and CHO. Dr Kerry Chant speaks plainly, is open about what her team do and dont know and have kicked some serious butt wrt to provision of timely information. NSW doesnt over react, makes information based not fear based decisions.

Small matter but I think the Vic Deputy CHO’s family name is Cheng with a G. imagine saying Smit instead of Smith

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And yet I doubt any exemptions/approvals for Tennis players and their entourages arriving in the next few weeks remain outstanding.

Actually it's borderline reckless that the tournament is going ahead, now I think about it.

So are you arguing that things should be closed down even further? Lets destroy the economy even further is your preferred solution?

The AO will be footing the bill for that.

Do you want the ships in Port Phillip Bay turned back too?


PS Remember that I personally have stated many times that the Vic Border restrictions were too tight and too quick. I personally would have just allowed all those in the green zone back and just required them to quarantine till a test result was obtained. Release from quarantine if negative. Isolation if positive.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Yes it’s correct check how they delayed opening to VIC by almost a week...

Who knows if the WA CHO was asleep or thrown under a bus (again)?!?!

 

[Must...Fly!]

So are you arguing that things should be closed down even further? Lets destroy the economy even further is your preferred solution?

The AO will be footing the bill for that.

Who do you think funds the Open, extraordinary costs of redeveloping the precinct over past years, etc? There is going to be a lot of government money sunk in to this. Including a "concessional" loan given to TA by the state government to cover their shortfall.

Yes it will bring economic benefit and I fully acknowledge that. I am a supporter of major events. And a massive supporter of the Grand Prix and what it does for Melbourne, despite the cost. But I don't think hosting a Grand Prix in March is a good idea either (and neither it seems does anyone else).

Fact is the Victorian government are treating residents stranded in NSW/Brisbane like dirt and rolling out the red carpet for tennis players from around the world. Heck, Brisbane is in the middle of a 3 day lock down because of ONE case of a possible more infectious strain and Victoria slammed the door shut to anyone from there in a matter of hours!

It's hypocrisy plain and simple and we should be outraged by it.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Who do you think funds the Open, extraordinary costs of redeveloping the precinct over past years, etc? There is going to be a lot of government money sunk in to this. Including a "concessional" loan given to TA by the state government to cover their shortfall.

Yes it will bring economic benefit and I fully acknowledge that. I am a supporter of major events. And a massive supporter of the Grand Prix and what it does for Melbourne, despite the cost. But I don't think hosting a Grand Prix in March is a good idea either (and neither it seems does anyone else).

The Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust (The actual venues) and the AO are different things. The AO hires out the MOPT Venues like everyone else for a wide range of purposes, including me. I have spent a few $million at MOPT myself hiring it out, plus a small amount attending events there. Never bought a ticket to the AO though as I personally am not a tennis fan.