Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Lynda2475]

McGowan claimed testing numbers higher than first day of Northern Beaches outbreak, which may be true but not higher than first day of NB lockdown which was 78k tests.

Just called my friend to check & ask WTF & they are certain without doubt that they directly know of family friend who has tested positive in Perth

What cut-off time does WA use? Maybe that persons results came through after that cut-off. WA have form in holding back info until they have more details, they omitted to tell AHPPC they had a postive because they didnt have details.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Regardless, it seems to be going very well and hopefully caught in time. Equally hopefully this is a wakeup call to not be so smug and make sure HQ is operating as safely as possible.

 

[Must...Fly!]

They are trying to spin themselves out of not informing AHPPC at 7:30am despite knowing of the positive result by claiming "we didn't have all the facts"

Oh and my favourite was McGowan boasting that WA had more test results than NSW on first day of Northern Beaches lockdown.

What a completely disgraceful thing to say.

The Police Commissioner claiming COVID to be "the most virulent disease the world has seen" was also good for a solid sigh.

 

[Pushka]

The security guard had delivered medication to the hotel door of someone with the virus. The hotel involved will not receive any more travelers until further notice.

That doesn't make sense either. I'm guessing no CCTV. So they don't remove positive people to a more secure location either. Given tiny numbers that also seems hard to believe. And did WA previously report they had a UK variety in the last couple of weeks?

 

[jakeseven7]

They are trying to spin themselves out of not informing AHPPC at 7:30am despite knowing of the positive result by claiming "we didn't have all the facts"

Oh and my favourite was McGowan boasting that WA had more test results than NSW on first day of Northern Beaches lockdown.

What a completely disgraceful thing to say.

The Police Commissioner claiming COVID to be "the most virulent disease the world has seen" was also good for a solid sigh.

Can you imagine being the poor WA CHO who has only just resurfaced from exile for 102 days, listening to his amigos..... it would be hilarious if it wasn't so bad and blatantly obvious why they are behaving this way.... DOUBLE SIGH!

 

[OZDUCK]

That doesn't make sense either. I'm guessing no CCTV. So they don't remove positive people to a more secure location either. Given tiny numbers that also seems hard to believe. And did WA previously report they had a UK variety in the last couple of weeks?

WA has been reporting cases of the UK variant for a number of weeks. The first report I could find, on the ABC website, was on January 5.

 

[Lynda2475]

Weird that WA dont have hot/medi hotels separate to regular HQ like the other states do. The question re whether the guard was masked when he delivered the meds was evaded at the presser.

 

[Pushka]

Weird that WA dont have hot/medi hotels separate to regular HQ like the other states do. The question re whether the guard was masked when he delivered the meds was evaded at the presser.

Surprises me that a security person was given the job of delivering medication to a known positive case as well.

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WA has been reporting cases of the UK variant for a number of weeks. The first report I could find, on the ABC website, was on January 5.

Be interesting to see the full statistics. That would be too early for this case and it's not like any state is dealing with infections at high numbers.

 

[milehighclub]

So staff that work at a hotel with known cases might not have to wear masks in certain circumstances and are able to be out in the public. Meanwhile domestic airline staff who live in WA, are required to wear masks at work and should they have so much as even breathed the air in a different state over the last few months, have had to self isolate every time they came back into WA. I would have thought hotel staff are a much bigger risk than domestic crew.

 

[moa999]

Unbelievable response by WA.
I mean they've had 6+ months to plan for this.

Have clear checklists on what to do, who to inform, how to stand up contact tracing and testing.

Yet they seem as organised as a headless chook.

Glad at least that the rumours about more +ves appear incorrect.

 

[clifford]

I mean they've had 6+ months to plan for this.

Indeed. Sounds very much like Vic pre second wave.

Slow learners, but hopefully they will now start to learn much more quickly.

 

[Pushka]

Well I was shocked at the ZERO ann.

Just called my friend to check & ask WTF & they are certain without doubt that they directly know of family friend who has tested positive in Perth.

They also have heard from others that there are others who have tested positive, but that's just talk & unconfirmed so I disregard that info.

hmm, not sure what to think now, shirley not a coverup er hide certain facts, too much to lose.

Maybe this is him?

Second suspected WA coronavirus case confirmed as historical as lockdown continues​

"Initial PCR tests were very weak, in keeping with him being non-infectious and having infection some time ago,” WA Health said.

“Subsequent test results received (on Monday) confirm the person is now PCR negative, but serology positive.

“This provides confirmation that the case was historical and non-infectious in WA.”

The man has now been released from hotel quarantine in Perth.

The suspected case, which turned out to be historical, caused quite a stir in Perth after the man took to Facebook on Sunday to urge people he had been in contact with to get tested."

 

[lovetravellingoz]

McGowan claimed testing numbers higher than first day of Northern Beaches outbreak, which may be true but not higher than first day of NB lockdown which was 78k tests.

WA Premier says the number of tests done in Perth yesterday - 16,490 - "is more than double the number of tests completed the day after the Northern Beaches outbreak."

I think that what McGowan was stating was that tests numbers in WA were higher than the first day after NB in WA., rather comparing them to testing numbers in NSW.

ie He was comparing the test numbers induced in WA by the two events.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The suspected case, which turned out to be historical, caused quite a stir in Perth after the man took to Facebook on Sunday to urge people he had been in contact with to get tested."

Though this is actually a good thing as what needs to be done is to treat any weak positive test as a positive test result and act as if the person infectious until proven other wise.

It would be unwise to wait the one or two days that it can take to analyse these cases to treat the case as a positive case, and in the meantime the virus could be spread.

ie With the recent such case in Melbourne the second ring was put into place.

 

[Pushka]

Though this is actually a good thing as what needs to be done is to treat any weak positive test as a positive test result and act as if the person infectious until proven other wise.

It would be unwise to wait the one or two days that it can take to analyse these cases to treat the case as a positive case, and in the meantime the virus could be spread.

ie With the recent such case in Melbourne the second ring was put into place.

Yes. Agree. But no mention has been made of it officially so it leads to speculation. Sadly their bushfire now is a much more horrific scenario.

 

[N860CR]

Yes. Agree. But no mention has been made of it officially so it leads to speculation. Sadly their bushfire now is a much more horrific scenario.

I did have to smirk a bit at the ABC reporters slip of the tongue... apparently there was some confusion in WA as to whether people were allowed to evacuate as it was breaching the lockdown .

The comment was made that everyone could evacuate as this was a life threatening situation...

Plays along with Morrison’s line “I feel most sorry for the small businesses impacted in WA”. Let’s not worry about the person who actually has the virus. He’s a few rungs down the care ladder

 

[OZDUCK]

Yes. Agree. But no mention has been made of it officially so it leads to speculation. Sadly their bushfire now is a much more horrific scenario.

I am not quite sure what you are referring to about in regards to 'no mention'. If it was in regard to the "historical" overseas case, - the local press reported yesterday that person was specifically mentioned by the Premier with the comment that testing had identified him as "shedder" of the virus rather than a "spreader" and he was now in hotel quarantine.

 

[Pushka]

I am not quite sure what you are referring to about in regards to 'no mention'. If it was in regard to the "historical" overseas case, - the local press reported yesterday that person was specifically mentioned by the Premier with the comment that testing had identified him as "shedder" of the virus rather than a "spreader" and he was now in hotel quarantine.

Ok. Nothing reported here in SA about it. In SA all positives are reported on the day they are determined then where appropriate (eg historical) it is withdrawn a couple of days later after testing which I understand takes more time after the initial test.

 

[Lynda2475]

I think that what McGowan was stating was that tests numbers in WA were higher than the first day after NB in WA., rather comparing them to testing numbers in NSW.

ie He was comparing the test numbers induced in WA by the two events.

The smirk on his face as he said it definiately came off like he was having a dig at NSW. I cant find where WA publish daily test numbers, covid Live seems to only have updated periodically for WA.

If talking NSW the numbers dont addd up.

The first 2 NB cases were annoucned on afternoon of 16th Dec and formally reported on 17th Dec.

In NSW on 17th Dec 11,922 tests were reported (test done up to 8pm on 16th) and on 18th Dec 10,583 (for tests done on 17th). Lower than WAs tests yesterday ut not half the number.

If indeed he was referencing WA test numbers its a strange observation to make. There should be no sensible reason to expect a rapid spike in WA testing following discovery of 2 cases on the otherside of the country, especially since only recent arrivals from NSW were requested to get tested.

Whereas there is always going to be more tests after a local case, especially if a mystery.

 

[ethernet]

That doesn't make sense either. I'm guessing no CCTV. So they don't remove positive people to a more secure location either. Given tiny numbers that also seems hard to believe. And did WA previously report they had a UK variety in the last couple of weeks?

One of the greatest lessons learnt saga was one nurse per hotel, showing how to use PPE and fit masks properly, and also a pair of infection control eyes with some independence.

Deliver medicine. Expand that. The lack of how's smells fishy.

Sir Humphrey would remark WA is reaping huge efficiency dividends by doing away with unnecessary staff and CCTV, with no impact on its true constituents, ie those with 4 million and up land valuations.