Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Must...Fly!]

So, what if you tested positive and didn't want to go to hospital unless medically necessary for treatment? Or is that not an option in Qld, under pain of forced relocation or some such other process?

 

[Lynda2475]

No new NSW cases till 8pm last night, but warning of developments so assume that means they have found a case in Byron since the 8pm cut off. Presser is at 11:30.

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Or is that not an option in Qld

This apparently.

 

[jakeseven7]

There really does need to be an inquiry into QLD Health over these outbreaks.How have there been 2 transmissions at the one QLD hospital within a month.
Why were both via unvaccinated front line staff.
Where non clinical staff vaccinated before those actually working in a covid ward.

These questions need to be answered especially as QLD could obviously have vaccinated twice the number of front line staff by now if they had followed the Commonwealth advice.Which begs the question would the current clusters have occurred if they had done that?

Agreed, its long been suspected up here that QLD CHO/Health weren't up to the task. Too much deflection, dithering, hiding from scrutiny just added fuel to that suspicion in the early days, the dreadful decisions made re: NSW and border community health and now this mis-management.

I would hope this latest mess would be be fully investigated but I also don't hold much hope it will be, there seems to be some very good bureaucratic cough covering happening right now!

Interesting though how the QLD CHO threw the QLD Health Minister under the bus yesterday saying they were the ones who said don't vaccinate the frontline staff......... wonderful!

 

[Tiki]

‘Gutless politicians’ use unofficial eradication strategy to create a ‘shambolic mess’

Sky News host Rita Panahi says a “shambolic mess” has been created by allowing health officials and “gutless politicians” to adopt an unofficial eradication strategy against a virus that will “never be fully eradicated”. Her comments come as Greater Brisbane sits in the midst of a snap...

www.skynews.com.au

A rare sensible journalist with a solid view of the ridiculous lockdown strategy and panicky premiers.

 

[Pushka]

No new NSW cases till 8pm last night, but warning of developments so assume that means they have found a case in Byron since the 8pm cut off. Presser is at 11:30.

Post automatically merged: Mar 31, 2021

This apparently.

Yes. A positive from someone who attended that same hens party. Wonder when the wedding is? That’s possibly gone now.

 

[jase05]

One local case in NSW but after 8pm so shown in tomorrow’s numbers. Some restrictions reintroduced in four shires (Byron, Ballina, Tweed and Lismore).

No more than 30 at home, 4m^2 density limit on venues. In place until after Easter.

 

[Hillbilly64]

One local case in NSW but after 8pm so shown in tomorrow’s numbers. Some restrictions reintroduced in four shires (Byron, Ballina, Tweed and Lismore).

No more than 30 at home, 4m^2 density limit on venues. In place until after Easter.

That might make Blues Fest interesting

 

[jase05]

What time does Supreme Leader Mark wake up over there? 1 case would be enough to close the shutters to the whole of NSW I’d think

 

[Pushka]

That might make Blues Fest interesting

If another one pops up, definitely.

 

[Port Power]

Yes. A positive from someone who attended that same hens party. Wonder when the wedding is? That’s possibly gone now.

I was saying that to my friend on the Gold Coast yesterday. Wedding event is probably off now.

I had read somewhere that the nurse (can’t remember if it was this one or a previous recent case) had chosen not to be vaccinated. Hence the new ruling that all staff working around COVID cases, hospitals and hotels, must be vaccinated to work there.

Edit: Coronacast said nurse was not wearing a mask at work, but that is not a requirement of Health Department regulations in Queensland. Unbelievable!

 

[Pushka]

The NSW case is even more concerning as it wasn’t an attendee at the Hens party. True community spread.

“The case is a man in his 20s who recently attended Byron Beach Hotel with three of his friends.

The group sat near the infectious Queensland travellers who were visiting Byron Bay as part of a hens party.”

Everyone in Byron goes to that Hotel.

And the music festival is being discussed.

 

[kamchatsky]

What time does Supreme Leader Mark wake up over there? 1 case would be enough to close the shutters to the whole of NSW I’d think

He can shut off NSW for next 20 years and I won't care. There is nothing to visit there anyway.

 

[RooFlyer]

Plus the movement into a hospital rather than a hot/medi hotel has in my opinion increased the risk significantly, particularly as there is a large number of staff interactions in a hospital and no surveillance testing of the staff.

It’s a recipe for disaster as we have seen here.

After a year of all this, there’s not much that really surprises me any more. But I was surprised to learn that Queensland does not use hot hotels etc but hospitalises positive cases. Absolutely bonkers. Tasmania learnt that lesson the hard way in the first half of last year.

 

[drron]

After a year of all this, there’s not much that really surprises me any more. But I was surprised to learn that Queensland does not use hot hotels etc but hospitalises positive cases. Absolutely bonkers. Tasmania learnt that lesson the hard way in the first half of last year.

Not quite true. The majority the cases in the Northwest were over 80 with co morbidities. The Mersey hospital treated 41 Covid cases and all were over 80 and all had more than one other problem. So they needed to be in hospital.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Yes I was under the impression that Queensland was the only jurisdiction to require all positive cases be in hospital. It's a very bizarre policy to me when most should not actually require hospital level care to recover. I knew it was the case early in the pandemic, surprising to know it is still the case.

Seems to be centralising a lot of risk. Especially when your workforce isn't vaccinated.

 

[OATEK]

The context I used it as an example of is that public officials should not breach privacy of individuals unless there is a publuc need.

The naming was was done as a mistake and the Minister released it was wrong and that is why he apologised as he did not want other public officials or the media outing people.

If you read my original post to Pushka you will see that was how I used the example.

It is a good example too as the Minister was very open about why it was not appropriate. And very open on why people should not be identified by public officials including himself.


Just because people can find out the names of people by various means does not make it ok to breach their privacy, or to name them.

It can also be quite dangerous to do so.

This is why the state health organisations do not name the positive cases.


Start naming people and watch violence and other undesirable actions start to occur.

NoCookies | The Australian

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Did I say something that was factually incorrect?

Yes the statement that the band would have been outed in the media without the Minister's help is unprovable, but I feel on the balance of probabilities was likely given the name appeared on the Hotel web site and was very well known in the area.

I said the Minister "apologised for the privacy breach and fair enough" - correct I think.

I then compared the band the identity of which "was clearly in the public domain for anyone to find" as it appeared on the hotel website and said this was "unlike Pizzaman in SA" where the identity was unknown - also correct I think.

My only point was that the two instances were different.

I will make my final statement on this matter as clear as possible; sometimes the identity is known (the band, a doctor and a nurse in Brisbane, the QH quest with asthma and the young bloke outed as a holding a party in Brisbane (the latter two by their own hand)}, and sometimes not.

I don't believe I was promoting the naming of people so that we could see violence and other undesirable actions in our community.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Yes I was under the impression that Queensland was the only jurisdiction to require all positive cases be in hospital. It's a very bizarre policy to me when most should not actually require hospital level care to recover. I knew it was the case early in the pandemic, surprising to know it is still the case.

Seems to be centralising a lot of risk. Especially when your workforce isn't vaccinated.

Pretty sure NT puts all positive cases in hospital and have since the pandemic started. They don’t get very many though.

 

[Lynda2475]

Pretty sure NT puts all positive cases in hospital and have since the pandemic started. They don’t get very many though.

I thought positive cases remained at Howard Springs unless they needed ICU support in hospital. Of course for community cases (have NT had any) this may be different?

There were overseas arrivals diplomats and military that were staying in hotels not Howard Springs where positive cases were moved to hospital.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I thought positive cases remained at Howard Springs unless they needed ICU support in hospital. Of course for community cases (have NT had any) this may be different?

There were overseas arrivals diplomats and military that were staying in hotels not Howard Springs where positive cases were moved to hospital.

No idea - however any time you see active cases in NT figures, it exactly matches the number in hospital.

 

[Lynda2475]

oh dear:

Close contact of COVID patient said he had to 'demand' test after initially being turned away from testing clinic

A close contact of a COVID-infected patient says he was forced to explain the urgency of his situation to Queensland healthcare workers and "demand" a test after initially being turned away.

www.abc.net.au

Government apologises after traveller from Brisbane was sent into hotel quarantine

A man who tried to travel to Victoria from Brisbane before it was declared a red zone says he was forced into hotel quarantine, despite repeated assurances from the Department of Health he would not be.

www.abc.net.au