Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

Oh dear, State of Origin - Covid version, is back.

 

[Lynda2475]

I’m becoming convinced that some of the success is due to management, but a dose of good or bad luck (i.e. presence or absence of a super spreader) can also make a huge difference.

But also population density. In Singapore and Taiwan large portions of the population have much less personal space in their homes. And a higher proportion of the population have domestic help which increases risk of bringing into their homes if that help lives in places where they can not keep physical distance.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I’m becoming convinced that some of the success is due to management, but a dose of good or bad luck (i.e. presence or absence of a super spreader) can also make a huge difference.

Fully agree, as per my last post.


I also tend to think that the HQ breaches tend to come from random returned travellers who just happen to generate large airborne viral loads (ie super spreaders). That is not to say that HQ should not be better set up re control of airflow., but when a HQ facility is not adequate it is these superspreaders that are probably breaching it.

 

[dajop]

But also population density. In Singapore and Taiwan large portions of the population have much less personal space in their homes. And a higher proportion of the population have domestic help which increases risk of bringing into their homes if that help lives in places where they can not keep physical distance.

But none of this changed over the course of the pandemic. And the recent outbreak in SG (of B.1.617) has spread in the broader community* very quickly (compared to earlier ones).

* earlier spread was not exclusively, but predominantly in worker dormitories.

 

[Lynda2475]

But none of this changed over the course of the pandemic.

Maybe some complacency too? We are seeing here that many failing to check in when they were diligent about it last year.

Didn't Taiwan also reduce the iso period for flight crews to only 3 days recently?

 

[jakeseven7]

Oh dear, State of Origin - Covid version, is back.

Sigh, it never left unfortunately some just cannot get over it!

 

[jakeseven7]

Anywhere in Australia, at least. Too date.

Ask Singapore though. Certainly a different story. And Taiwan. Spread very quickly.

I’m becoming convinced that some of the success is due to management, but a dose of good or bad luck (i.e. presence or absence of a super spreader) can also make a huge difference.

Certainly a dose of luck can tip it either way.

We saw rotten luck in Sydney with the Avalon outbreak. Bad luck in Black Rock too in Melbourne as well. But with the recent Sydney mystery case - good luck. As well as the incidents in WA and QLD!

 

[dajop]

Certainly a dose of luck can tip it either way.

We saw rotten luck in Sydney with the Avalon outbreak. Bad luck in Black Rock too in Melbourne as well. But with the recent Sydney mystery case - good luck. As well as the incidents in WA and QLD!

Yes, I suspect festivities don't help either.

Avalon/Black Rock around Xmas. Probably a big cause for concern with current outbreak in northern Melbourne was family gatherings mid May to celebrate Eid al-Fitr (end of Ramadan).

 

[jase05]

ABC just said they “understand” that there is a further 4 cases on top of the 1 reported earlier today and the 4 from yesterday

 

[lovetravellingoz]

ABC just said they “understand” that there is a further 4 cases on top of the 1 reported earlier today and the 4 from yesterday

They have been indicated to be household contacts of the 60 year old.




So 60 year old is found and they then start testing all of his close contacts. And then their close contacts etc

Just rinse and repeat till it is closed off..


By Kelsie Iorio ABC

More info on the four latest cases​

The Victorian Government has confirmed that it has been notified of four new cases this afternoon — bringing the outbreak to nine cases total — all family contacts of the fifth case announced this morning.​

 

[jase05]

All 9 cases are from 3 households so Victoria holding firm at this stage which is good

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I think the exposure list has grown slightly as it has been updated today 25th May.

Case alerts - public exposure sites | Coronavirus Victoria

Victorian locations where there is a risk you may have been exposed to COVID-19

www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Extract from Vic DHHS dailiy Media release
25 May 2021

Update: City of Whittlesea outbreak ​

The Department was this morning notified of a fifth positive case, a male aged in their 60s. This will be included in tomorrow’s numbers.

The case developed symptoms on 17 May and presented for testing yesterday. The individual is a close contact of a positive case detected yesterday.

This afternoon, the Department has been notified of four new cases. They are all family contacts of the fifth case announced this morning, bringing the total of cases in this outbreak to nine.

Genomic sequencing has confirmed the strain of the virus detected in the four cases announced yesterday matches the strain of a case in Wollert earlier this month, who contracted the virus in hotel quarantine in South Australia.

Extensive contact tracing continues for the individuals who have tested positive to COVID-19 in Melbourne’s north yesterday. All are isolating at home.

Interviews with the individuals have identified more exposure sites which have been published at Case alerts – public exposure sites.

As of this morning, the Department identified 168 Primary Close Contacts related to exposure sites. 84 have tested negative.

This includes 39 contacts from the Bundoora Swim School exposure site, of which 24 negative results have been returned.

There is new advice for people who attended the Highpoint Shopping Centre exposure site, with CCTV footage allowing the Department to provide more specific information on which individual stores the positive case visited.

People who have visited the listed stores during the specified times must get tested and quarantine for 14 days. People who visited floors 2 and 3 of the centre during the specified times must get tested and stay isolated until they receive a negative result.

People who attended the centre but not in any of these areas are encouraged to monitor for symptoms.

There are also a number of small, private or closed exposure sites which the Department is managing. These are not public exposure sites and are not published online.

One of the five confirmed cases attended Broadmeadows Hospital on 21 May.

It is not currently listed as a public exposure site as the Department has access to records of everyone who attended the hospital.

The Department is closely managing this site and public health actions are underway.

37 Primary Close Contacts are linked to this site and 26 have so far returned a negative result.

A small workplace linked to Case 1 contains four Primary Close Contacts, of which three have so far returned a negative result.

 

[nutwood]

Interesting that there never seems to be any mention of the weather. Reportedly, Covid doesn't like warmer conditions. The "nasty" strains that have ineffectually got loose in Australia, have done so during summer. Now the temperatures are dropping, it'll be interesting to see if they are more effective.

 

[Scarlett]

Oh dear, State of Origin - Covid version, is back.

Single issue zealotry is sometimes the mark of a troll. Or maybe someone works in media comms for the NSW Premiers Office.

Whatever it is, as someone else who lives in NSW I'm genuinely embarrassed by some of the posts.

 

[bcworld]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397188001382518792

 

[lovetravellingoz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397188001382518792

Well at least at the football all persons have to reserve a seat and supply contact details when booking. Plus scan QR on entry. So contact tracing should be simple enough.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397188001382518792

Also looking at the latest updated exposure sites the newest contacts have been to a wider range of locations including Bendigo, Clifton Hill and Fitzroy.

The testing sites are going to be extra busy on Weds.

 

[Lynda2475]

Reportedly, Covid doesn't like warmer conditions

I believe that was debunked last year. You only need to look at how cases soared in South America (particularly Brazil) over the last summer to see hot temperatures dont kill the virus.

The reason winter cases rise in some colder climates is because of behaviours like congregating in doors with strangers and failing to keep physical distance.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397326752649711617

Not surpringly both tests and vaccinations both jumped.

Very good chance that both will go up in volume again today.