Australian state border restrictions

[VPS]

I understand there weren’t many vax clinics in the SE.

probably not but some people won't make the effort

 

[jase05]

probably not but some people won't make the effort

Yet Mt Gambier, Naracoorte, Lucindale etc are some of our best vax rates in the state and are minutes up the road.

 

[jakeseven7]

The complacency/apathy in the WA bubble seems to be the major factor in that. Life is just too much like the pre-Covid normal.

I think unfortunately it’s a bit more than complacency. It seems there is a deep misunderstanding of the virus period in WA.

 

[hydrabyss]

I do think/hope that when an opening date is announced, it will push people over the line. I think it's apathy and a lack of urgency that's holding back the few, now that there is a "choice" of vaccine for most.

I do wonder if King Mark needs to come out and threaten lockdowns and masks, if we don't get to X% by the time the border opens. The court cases may force that hand.

Of course there's some who no matter what you say, won't be pushed. We had an interesting discussion at a family event yesterday as to whether people refusing the vaccine should be refused treatment if they end up hospitalised (if/when hospitals get overwhelmed). The health report discussed the lack of prioritisation processes earlier in the week, if that interests you. But back to the topic I wonder if that might push some to get vaccinated.

I read some stories of US doctors who where going to refuse patients who where not vaccinated.

 

[jase05]

SA has cut the Vic border bubble back from 70km to 30km after a woman who travelled from Mt Gambier to Casterton tested positive on return and had been symptomatic for 5 days.
At least one jab now required to enter either state and 7 day mandatory testing has returned for cross border communities

 

[Pushka]

SA has cut the Vic border bubble back from 70km to 30km after a woman who travelled from Mt Gambier to Casterton tested positive on return and had been symptomatic for 5 days.
At least one jab now required to enter either state and 7 day mandatory testing has returned for cross border communities

Cannot believe she would return, with symptoms for a few days, and not be tested first and so exposed her family. She seems quite ill as well.

 

[nutwood]

Cannot believe she would return, with symptoms for a few days, and not be tested first and so exposed her family. She seems quite ill as well.

Seems very strange, but it's hard to judge without knowing the full story. I can't help but feel these situations are a bit sad. I don't suppose she wanted to get sick but now also has to carry the burden of being responsible for the reduction of the border bubble. Mt Gambier is not a big community so you can be sure everyone knows everyone else's business.
It would be more tactful to announce a border reduction based on "encountered problems" rather than being specific.

 

[jase05]

Seems very strange, but it's hard to judge without knowing the full story. I can't help but feel these situations are a bit sad. I don't suppose she wanted to get sick but now also has to carry the burden of being responsible for the reduction of the border bubble. Mt Gambier is not a big community so you can be sure everyone knows everyone else's business.
It would be more tactful to announce a border reduction based on "encountered problems" rather than being specific.

The surrounding area around Mt Gambier has a very low vaccination rate so hopefully this drives a vax blitz

 

[Pushka]

The surrounding area around Mt Gambier has a very low vaccination rate so hopefully this drives a vax blitz

Actually they said tonight it was higher than the state average.

 

[jase05]

Actually they said tonight it was higher than the state average.

Mt Gambier LGA is
Grant LGA which surrounds Mt Gambier is the worst in Australia

 

[Pushka]

Mt Gambier LGA is
Grant LGA which surrounds Mt Gambier is the worst in Australia

Yes we had this discussion this morning but that isn't what Spurrier said today in the 'emergency' conference. But, the statistics confirm your point. So what is she thinking?

 

[jase05]

Yes we had this discussion this morning but that isn't what Spurrier said today in the 'emergency' conference. But, the statistics confirm your point. So what is she thinking?

Perhaps she was confused with Mt Gambier LGA being totally enclosed within Grant LGA.
A lot of people not familiar with the area get confused as the Council of Mt Gambier merged with the Council of Pt McDonnell to form Grant and the council offices are in Mt Gambier. Mt Gambier then become the City of Mt Gambier LGA

 

[Port Power]

Perhaps she was confused with Mt Gambier LGA being totally enclosed within Grant LGA.
A lot of people not familiar with the area get confused as the Council of Mt Gambier merged with the Council of Pt McDonnell to form Grant and the council offices are in Mt Gambier. Mt Gambier then become the City of Mt Gambier LGA

Anyone who has symptoms shouldn’t be travelling anywhere in any case. Stay put and be tested rather than risk spreading the virus. If in doubt, don’t!

 

[jakeseven7]

Yes we had this discussion this morning but that isn't what Spurrier said today in the 'emergency' conference. But, the statistics confirm your point. So what is she thinking?

Thinking about when she booked her next blow dry perhaps and getting the date mixed up with the vaccination numbers?

 

[Pushka]

Anyone who has symptoms shouldn’t be travelling anywhere in any case. Stay put and be tested rather than risk spreading the virus. If in doubt, don’t!

Sadly she did travel and had symptoms for five days.

 

[Seat0B]

I'm a Tasmanian resident, but that's how I take it. We have no international airport, so I fly to Sydney, head off and travel the globe but when I fly back to Sydney, I can't go home. Not "go home and quarantine", simply can't go home.
Currently, that's exactly how it is for a Tasmanian in NSW trying to get home. Best chance is a compassionate exemption but it still involves fourteen days hotel quarantine and they'll let you know when there's a vacancy in a hotel. Anyone else, forget it. These issues need to be sorted out as a matter of priority, way ahead of announcing "we're opening international borders".

It's also the same for a Ken Behren trying to get home to the ACT from Sydney, which is equally ridiculous. And despite us having vax rates on a par with NSW, our dear leader has not specified a date when we will be able to travel beyond the bounds of our LGA Territory. As things currently stand, this ridiculous state of affairs will continue until at least until December.

We all need to understand that there is no such place as Australia any more.

 

[oznflfan]

It's also the same for a Ken Behren trying to get home to the ACT from Sydney, which is equally ridiculous. And despite us having vax rates on a par with NSW, our dear leader has not specified a date when we will be able to travel beyond the bounds of our LGA Territory. As things currently stand, this ridiculous state of affairs will continue until at least until December.

We all need to understand that there is no such place as Australia any more.

God knows (and I am a firm atheist) when I will be able to leave NT to go anywhere interesting and be able to return without giving blood, sweat and tears+ dollars to NTG.

 

[MARTINE]

I really loved the travel reporter I heard this morning refer to WA as the biggest collective case of Stockholm Syndrome
… feel your pain people

 

[nutwood]

At the press conference to announce the new case in Tasmania, Mr Gutwein still proclaimed that their aim is 90% of eligible 16+ needed to be vaccinated and 12-15 age group to have 1 shot by December 1st to open border but hopes it will be before Christmas.

My problem with this approach is is that it's all about the Premier clinging on to his current powers. Correct approach would be; "We're opening the borders on this date. Current predictions are that we'll have reached xx% vaccination by then but we're going to push to do better than that. Unless something serious changes, the State of Emergency is ceasing and it's business as usual".
This announcement followed up by a heavy marketing campaign allong the lines of "don't be left behind", "don't spend Christmas in hospital" etc. I'm sure there'd be no problems finding a marketing company capable of running a fear campaign...!

 

[jakeseven7]

My problem with this approach is is that it's all about the Premier clinging on to his current powers. Correct approach would be; "We're opening the borders on this date. Current predictions are that we'll have reached xx% vaccination by then but we're going to push to do better than that. Unless something serious changes, the State of Emergency is ceasing and it's business as usual".
This announcement followed up by a heavy marketing campaign allong the lines of "don't be left behind", "don't spend Christmas in hospital" etc. I'm sure there'd be no problems finding a marketing company capable of running a fear campaign...!

What about we don’t want to spend Christmas without half the family stuck interstate