Australian state border restrictions

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I'm booked to fly to Uluru in two weeks. As I understand it, the NT is closed to interstate visitors from declared hotspots (have to quarantine for 14 days). So that leaves out all of Melbourne, Mildura, Greater Sydney, and Adelaide: COVID19 Hotspots Declared by NT CHO - Google My Maps

It appears you can still transit Sydney Airport (and even stay overnight at an Airport Hotel) subject to certain rules.

I wonder how long before the rest of NSW and Vic are added to that map? My flights have been changed 4 times already this week and the time to cancel our accommodation without penalty is fast approaching....

For Ayers Rock Resort, I believe their policy is that if borders are closed etc right up to your arrival date, you can either get a full refund or a credit for the same rate up to a 12 month window.

If you want to double check for your situation their number is 1300134044.

 

[Must...Fly!]

WA did this last year, and they are doing it for NSW now. Unfortunately, the high court has rubber stamped the approach.

I know, but with vaccines and another year having passed we are still in the same situation. It's enough to make one want to cry or smash a punching bag out of frustration with the way our system is operating at the moment.

The fact that (assuming VIC back to zero cases - big assumption) I am looking at spending two weeks in TAS, to spend two weeks in WA, to then go back to VIC hoping I don't have to quarantine for two weeks - as a FULLY VACCINATED person in their 30s - just for some time under the same roof as my family - is completely and utterly warped.

 

[jrfsp]

I know, but with vaccines and another year having passed we are still in the same situation. It's enough to make one want to cry or smash a punching bag out of frustration with the way our system is operating at the moment.

The fact that (assuming VIC back to zero cases - big assumption) I am looking at spending two weeks in TAS, to spend two weeks in WA, to then go back to VIC hoping I don't have to quarantine for two weeks - as a FULLY VACCINATED person in their 30s - just for some time under the same roof as my family - is completely and utterly warped.

Just because you are fully vaccinated does not stop you contracting covid and spreading it to other people, this is even more so with delta. We are seeing this around the world. The community vaccination rate is the important number - its currently 11%.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Just because you are fully vaccinated does not stop you contracting covid and spreading it to other people, this is even more so with delta. We are seeing this around the world. The community vaccination rate is the important number - its currently 11%.

I am aware of that, which is why I do not object to a user-pays pre and post-travel testing regime (<48 hours before, test on arrival, isolate until negative) for domestic travel as a short-term measure for vaccinated individuals which would facilitate some limited family reunion and business travel without blanket banning it.

 

[N860CR]

Just because you are fully vaccinated does not stop you contracting covid and spreading it to other people, this is even more so with delta. We are seeing this around the world. The community vaccination rate is the important number - its currently 11%.

It does, however, significantly reduce the chance of contracting and spreading.

At some point, we do need to accept some risk. Especially as the vaccination rate amongst the vulnerable increases (and it’s currently well above that of the general population).

 

[Jacques Vert]

For Ayers Rock Resort, I believe their policy is that if borders are closed etc right up to your arrival date, you can either get a full refund or a credit for the same rate up to a 12 month window.

If you want to double check for your situation their number is 1300134044.

Thanks for your comments.

According to their website, I need to cancel 7 days before checkin. I'm waiting for a call from the TA who booked it to get their take on it.

I'll probably take your suggestion and call the hotel as well. I think the chances of this trip going ahead are less than 50%.

If it doesn't go ahead, this will be the second time this trip has been cancelled.

 

[jrfsp]

Is QF really planning on going ahead with changes to bookings from 1 August. Hardly seems the right time to be doing it.

Seems the main difference will be flight credits will only be valid for 12 months for bookings after 1 August

 

[Seat0B]

We see very little chance of NSW getting back to a string of zeros. And even Victoria might struggle if things don’t go perfectly from here.

So how long might (say) WA stay closed to NSW?

my prediction on this is the same as for unfettered international borders - 12th of never

 

[Seat0B]

It is unbelievable to me that the Victorian CHO has decided to cease issuing red zone permits to retaining residents from tonight except in limited compassionate cases.

Honestly are government seeking to destroy everyone's mental health? For example, what reasoning is there to stop Victorian residents from returning from South Australia after tonight? Just sad.

Yes this is an example of the total over reach I mentioned up thread. Victoria is not the only state to do this either as WA and (I think) SA have at various times too. How absolutely fascist to prevent people going to their homes and not even allowing the option of HQ, which at least wretched QLD did. As I said up thread, I mourn the loss of the Australia I knew! Obviously a figment of my imagination. I would previously have said locking people out of their homes, lives, jobs, families was unAustralian, but now, not so much. More a predictable lowest common denominator of the colonies of the former Australia. A bit like we used to talk abou5 the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s

 

[Jacques Vert]

I'm booked to fly to Uluru in two weeks. As I understand it, the NT is closed to interstate visitors from declared hotspots (have to quarantine for 14 days). So that leaves out all of Melbourne, Mildura, Greater Sydney, and Adelaide: COVID19 Hotspots Declared by NT CHO - Google My Maps

It appears you can still transit Sydney Airport (and even stay overnight at an Airport Hotel) subject to certain rules.

I wonder how long before the rest of NSW and Vic are added to that map? My flights have been changed 4 times already this week and the time to cancel our accommodation without penalty is fast approaching....

Molong/Blaney/Orange added to the map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...9&ll=-32.90486353475632,147.6142639440984&z=6

 

[Seat0B]

It is very poor & disappointing.

But you'd have to think anyone there really had had ample opportunity, knowing full well the border closure possibility.
You'd have to be a bit silly still in Sydney at this point. Anybody left world surely have extenuating circumstances so I'd hope they'd be allowed a pass.

Well yes maybe a bit silly to still be in Sydney, compassionate circumstances aside. But not so silly to be in Canberra, or Bega, or Broken Hill, or Armidale, or Guyra, or Albury, or Evans Head....but still locked out of your home if you are from one of those sates.

Honestly, I do not think there is any reason at all, EVER, to ban someone from returning to their home. I said the same about the ban on Australians returning from India too. The very least that we can do is allow people to return, with quarantine.

 

[Seat0B]

I know, but with vaccines and another year having passed we are still in the same situation. It's enough to make one want to cry or smash a punching bag out of frustration with the way our system is operating at the moment.

The fact that (assuming VIC back to zero cases - big assumption) I am looking at spending two weeks in TAS, to spend two weeks in WA, to then go back to VIC hoping I don't have to quarantine for two weeks - as a FULLY VACCINATED person in their 30s - just for some time under the same roof as my family - is completely and utterly warped.

If there was a button that said agree 100% I would have hit that too.

And, off topic for this thread, that's also how I feel about not being able to see my fully vaccinated 30 year old son, just because he lives overseas. Maybe it was necessary this time last year, but at this point, it is completely and utterly warped.

I hope you get to see your family soon @Must...Fly! I would once have thought that you were likely to see your family sooner than I will get to see my son, but seems that we are all suffering in the same way. And interminably. With no light at the end of the tunnel. The PM's press conference today just made me feel worse and even angrier than before, which I did not think was even possible.

 

[N860CR]

The PM's press conference today just made me feel worse and even angrier than before, which I did not think was even possible.

I cannot fathom how there is still no vaccine target. These vaccines have been around for over half a year now. I really cannot see how it’s acceptable that a plan is still being put together.

 

[hydrabyss]

I cannot fathom how there is still no vaccine target. These vaccines have been around for over half a year now. I really cannot see how it’s acceptable that a plan is still being put together.

I have no doubt there is a vaccine target, its most likely they are not yet willing to reveal it. If they said 60% and we reach it yet other countries are having huge issues and have the same number they will not be able to then change it. Same in reverse if they can't get reach a higher number due to people's reluctance to have it.

 

[Port Power]

Nightly television news has just said that lockdowns are likely to last until the end of the year. They will only cease once 80% of the population is vaccinated. I’m pretty sure that was Mark McGowan speaking. Let’s just hope the population gets going and vaccines are in good supply.

 

[Mattg]

Well yes maybe a bit silly to still be in Sydney, compassionate circumstances aside. But not so silly to be in Canberra, or Bega, or Broken Hill, or Armidale, or Guyra, or Albury, or Evans Head....but still locked out of your home if you are from one of those sates.

Honestly, I do not think there is any reason at all, EVER, to ban someone from returning to their home. I said the same about the ban on Australians returning from India too. The very least that we can do is allow people to return, with quarantine.

...or on Norfolk Island...

Not to mention, what if you happened to be identified as a close contact while interstate and were forced to quarantine where you are for two weeks? Then, in the meantime your own state bans you from returning home before your self-isolation period is over...

 

[SydneySwan]

...or on Norfolk Island...

Not to mention, what if you happened to be identified as a close contact while interstate and were forced to quarantine where you are for two weeks? Then, in the meantime your own state bans you from returning home before your self-isolation period is over...

Impossible ............... oh wait, there is a country at the bottom of the world ........................

Does this sort of nonsense occur in other federations like Canada, the US and Switzerland?

 

[Seat0B]

...or on Norfolk Island...

Not to mention, what if you happened to be identified as a close contact while interstate and were forced to quarantine where you are for two weeks? Then, in the meantime your own state bans you from returning home before your self-isolation period is over...

Oh dear @Mattg, I hope this is a hypothetical, but suspect it is not. Sending warm support in case that’s you stuck like that.

 

[bcworld]

QLD/NSW update:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1418010891304378372

 

[jase05]

WA going the hard border against SA apparently