Bonza Airline Discussion

[Saab34]

An new article in the guardian has the Bonza boss saying ‘perhaps next year’ or something like that.

So that means, it will be next year. I’ll take a punt and say Q2. Would be burning considerable cash having it sit idle however for another 6-12 months. Rough sort of numbers, 200 Bonza employees at an average salary wage, plus aircraft leasing costs for 4/5 aircraft, that’s 30m a year, let alone the other costs associated with running airlines.

 

[k_sheep]

URGH what a pain. I want jaunts dammit!

 

[HS-TQE]

CASA has come out and clarified that they are looking at a mid/late October date for the start of Bonza's operations.

CASA CLARIFIES BONZA'S CERTIFICATION PROGRESS - Airline Ratings

Australia's airline regulator CASA has moved to clarify the status of the certification to fly of the country's new airline start-up Bonza.

www.airlineratings.com

 

[Saab34]

Interesting comment from the CEO in an interview yesterday. Sounds like still a long way to go so the language he hinted about regarding next year seems more likely.

We are working our way through a very long to-do list but progress is ongoing,” Mr Jordan said.

 

[AIRwin]

Bonza is the principal partner of Melbourne Victory:

Melbourne Victory announces Bonza as Principal Partner | Melbourne Victory

Melbourne Victory is pleased to announce Bonza as the Club’s Principal Partner for the next four seasons. This is the biggest deal for Principal Partner in the Club’s history.

melbournevictory.com.au

 

[docjames]

Note that 777 Partners (owners of Bonza) have just purchased strategic stake in Melbourne Victory. So the sponsorship isn’t a coincidence.

A private investment firm, 777 Partners has quickly built a multi-club network featuring some of the most historic football clubs in the world, including Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Vasco da Gama in Brazil, Standard de Liege in Belgium and Red Star FC in France, as well as a significant minority stake in Sevilla FC in Spain.

 

[bashamd]

In today's open letter, Bonza also mentioned that the only place to book a ticket with the airline will be on the "Fly Bonza" app.

Bonza Won't Offer Website Bookings

Update (October 2022): Bonza has launched a travel agent portal to allow travel agents to book Bonza flights. It remains the case that the only way to

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Hi, Bonza has never advised bookings would not be available via travel agents? Their travel agent portal was launched last Thursday to the trade.

 

[henrus]

Hi, Bonza has never advised bookings would not be available via travel agents? Their travel agent portal was launched last Thursday to the trade.

So clearly agents will be allowed to book?

 

[Saab34]

First time the MAX has taken to the skies in 3 months.

MCY-MCY lap then they have lodged a flight plan for MCY-NTL-MCY this arvo

 

[henrus]

First time the MAX has taken to the skies in 3 months.

MCY-MCY lap then they have lodged a flight plan for MCY-NTL-MCY this arvo

I wonder if this is the start of the CASA proving flights?

 

[AIRwin]

First time the MAX has taken to the skies in 3 months.

MCY-MCY lap then they have lodged a flight plan for MCY-NTL-MCY this arvo

VH-UJT as reported by @justinbrett :

AFF Gathering #15 in NTL on 21 – 23 October 2022

Newcastle has been chosen as the AFF Annual Gathering destination for 2022 (postponed from 2021), occurring over the weekend of the 21st to 23rd October. The average temperature range for October is 14.1ºC – 22.1ºC. The average rainfall is 72.5mm with 11 rainy days. It is NSW's second most...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[neils2004]

Personally, I would not choose to knowingly fly in a MAX - regardless of the upgraded flight systems.

 

[Saab34]

Personally, I would not choose to knowingly fly in a MAX - regardless of the upgraded flight systems.

Can I ask the reason?

 

[neils2004]

Hi Saab34,
My reasoning being 346 innocent people who lost their lives.
Recent article from Reuters:
The deal capped a 21-month investigation into the design and development of the 737 MAX following the deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia in 2018 and 2019.

Boeing did not disclose key details to the FAA of a safety system called MCAS, which was linked to both fatal crashes and designed to help counter a tendency of the MAX to pitch up. "Had Boeing not committed its crime" pilots in Ethiopia and Indonesia would have "received training adequate to respond to the MCAS activation that occurred on both aircrafts," O'Connor ruled.

The crashes, which have cost Boeing more than $20 billion in compensation, production costs, and fines, and led to a 20-month grounding for the best-selling plane, prompted Congress to pass legislation reforming FAA airplane certification.

Boeing wants Congress to waive a December deadline imposed by the legislation for the FAA to certify the MAX 7 and MAX 10. After that date, all planes must have modern coughpit alerting systems, which the 737 planes do not have.

Last month, Boeing paid $200 million to settle Securities and Exchange Commission charges it misled investors about the MAX.

 

[Harrison_133]

VH-UJT Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

About to operated MCY-MKY-PPP

 

[AFF Editor]

Hi, Bonza has never advised bookings would not be available via travel agents? Their travel agent portal was launched last Thursday to the trade.

Good pick-up. Article updated.

 

[kaceybutler]

They must be close to approval “live in a few weeks”

 

[Harrison_133]

They must be close to approval “live in a few weeks”

The second aircraft (VH-UIK) is also enroute to Australia as we speak…

 

[Saab34]

Still seems a bit tight getting it away this calendar year, don’t forget CASA closes down like most agencies mid December and don’t really ramp up until mid Jan.

I don’t think they will start selling tickets until they get approval, so could be 1-2 weeks of ticket selling before starting especially if they want to start December. Shouldn’t be an issue trying to fill aircraft this festive season.

 

[docjames]

The second aircraft (VH-UIK) is also enroute to Australia as we speak…

Appears to have travelled YYC-HNL-NAN-MCY