Bonza Airline Discussion

[p--and--t]

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Every time I looked the schedules just didn’t suit.
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What schedule?

 

[Chicken]

What schedule?

Bus schedule.
Wait, isn't the bus coming this morning?

 

[Captain Halliday]

"Mr Jordan apologised to customers, saying Bonza was trying to find a way to keep flying."

Bonza budget airline cancels flights across the country as it considers 'viability' of business

 

[Chicken]

"Mr Jordan apologised to customers, saying Bonza was trying to find a way to keep flying."

Bonza budget airline cancels flights across the country as it considers 'viability' of business

I am sure they can continue to run a flying bus service between Sunshine Brisbane and Gold Coast, they should be pretty good with this now after so many weeks?

 

[bdl]

Bus schedule.
Wait, isn't the bus coming this morning?

<singing>
"The Bonza bus is coming
And everybody's jumping
Mackay to New-cas-tle
An regional city disco"
</singing>

 

[levelnine]

Wow they didn't last long.

 

[moa999]

Interestingly at the same time 777 Partners have now lent £200m to Everton FC in the UK, who they have been trying to buy.

Everton's loans from 777 Partners exceed £200m after fresh injection of capital

The American-based investment group have provided further financial assistance and hope to complete a deal by the end of May

inews.co.uk

777 also have an investment in the Melbourne Victory, who Bonza have sponsored.

 

[eastwest101]

Utterly predictable outcome of an airline that chose not to have a web site, over-extended itself with too few aircraft and then couldn't operate as per its schedule, unsurprisingly the public were not interested in paying hundreds of dollars for a lottery ticket as to if your booked flight would operate.

The decision not to have a website is the biggest corporate facepalm in recent memory, as others have said - they operated on city pairs that usually/often didn't have direct competition, and presumably they didn't want a website because of fare aggregators and comparison sites. But if your business model was to offer say MQL-OOL or say MEL-MCY fares for say $199 wouldn't you want to be shouting that from the rooftops when your competitors can only offer fares via SYD or MEL for $799 ? They had good corporate goodwill on startup, but once you start cancelling flights with no alternatives your reputation is mud and you cannot get any decent yield.

 

[Berlin]

Well, that was always going to happen, no big surprise there.

Just waiting now for all the articles in the media about all the cheapies who had “no idea” and are now crying about missing Mother’s Day. Yawn, you get what you pay for. And paying for a Maxx Murder flight on a shoddy airline was always a dumb idea to begin with.

 

[Mwenenzi]

I wonder if Bonza are up to date with payments to ATO for GST and employee PAYE deductions. And super payments to employees super funds.

Interestingly at the same time 777 Partners have now lent £200m to Everton FC in the UK, who they have been trying to buy.

Everton's loans from 777 Partners exceed £200m after fresh injection of capital

The American-based investment group have provided further financial assistance and hope to complete a deal by the end of May

inews.co.uk

777 also have an investment in the Melbourne Victory, who Bonza have sponsored.

And as a wild guess 777 Partners will not lose 1 cent for the Flair or Bonza experiment.

777 Partners - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Aircraft seizures​

On March 11, 2023, Airborne Capital Ltd. seized four of its planes operated by Flair over alleged non-payment. In a press conference, Flair CEO Stephen Jones suggested the seizures were motivated by competitors, and that the airline owed around US$1 million on the leases, and was in the process of making payment when the seizures occurred.[24][25] The lessor, Airborne alleged that Flair had repeatedly missed payments amounting to several millions of dollars over a period of five months. Flair used other aircraft to continue to operate its schedule.[26] In January 2024, it was reported that the lessors had filed claims at the UK High Court for costs and that there had been outstanding payments of $1.8 million on the four aircraft when notice of default was served.[27]
<snip>

Flair Airlines - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mattg]

And paying for a Maxx Murder flight on a shoddy airline was always a dumb idea to begin with.

I understand that you’re not a fan of the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. But just for the record, I’m not aware of any reported safety incidents relating to Bonza flights? As far as I can tell, they were not an unsafe airline operation.

 

[Chicken]

Awkward for this Bonza pilot , published only 4 days ago

 

[Berlin]

I understand that you’re not a fan of the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. But just for the record, I’m not aware of any reported serious safety incidents relating to Bonza flights? As far as I can tell, they were not an unsafe airline operation.

Oh, I’m not aware of any such thing either. But the Max is an inherently unsafe aircraft so I wouldn’t set foot on one, no matter which airline.

And if an airline like Bonza doesn’t have anything else, then you can’t even carefully avoid those murder machines which is what I usually do over in the US.

 

[Mr H]

Just waiting now for all the articles in the media about all the cheapies who had “no idea” and are now crying about missing Mother’s Day. Yawn, you get what you pay for. And paying for a Maxx Murder flight on a shoddy airline was always a dumb idea to begin with.

That's harsh. You could just say nobody should fly a new airline - in which case a new airline can never become a stable airline. I remember being similarly sceptical of Scoot - and would never have dared to buy a Scoot ticket - but I'm glad others did.

 

[Harrison_133]

Qantas Group also providing complimentary flights for stranded Bonza passengers today.

Source: https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/statement-on-support-for-bonza-customers/

 

[Saab34]

I think the blame towards the duopoly isn’t valid. They barely operated alongside them.

It’s purely an own Bonza goal.

 

[Chicken]

I think the blame towards the duopoly isn’t valid. They barely operated alongside them.

It’s purely an own Bonza goal.

And they have kicked too many own goals

Utterly predictable outcome of an airline that chose not to have a web site

Sorry to people in the country towns, but they are generally older and not good with computers, many even refuse to use smart phones, and here we have an airline which refused to have a web site basically until last month.

over-extended itself with too few aircraft and then couldn't operate as per its schedule

Yeah, this is another one of those dumb ideas, even a year 11 school kid who does business studies would know this is stupid.

,if your business model was to offer say MQL-OOL or say MEL-MCY fares for say $199 wouldn't you want to be shouting that from the rooftops when your competitors can only offer fares via SYD or MEL for $799 ?

If others are doing $799, I don't even know why were they doing $100 or $59. They could have asked for $300 and people would still have bought.

 

[Berlin]

That's harsh. You could just say nobody should fly a new airline - in which case a new airline can never become a stable airline. I remember being similarly sceptical of Scoot - and would never have dared to buy a Scoot ticket - but I'm glad others did.

Fair enough, maybe I’m a bit too cynical here. But in this case, the warning signs have really been all over.

Luckily, it seems like more trustworthy competitors are now jumping in to help so that’s a good end to this story in my mind.

 

[Saab34]

Passengers who buy insolvency protection for future flights might have a small window before it’s officially declared.

 

[Chicken]

Fair enough, maybe I’m a bit too cynical here. But in this case, the warning signs have really been all over.

I think you were harsh; but fair. I think people should really have seen this coming.