Building a stronger Qantas

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I'm assuming the new QF group airline will be like JQ Japan, a LCC. If so and if located in KL it should not cause MH any grief as it would target the lower side of the market and would keep MH as the new and only OW entrant in the region.

Incorrect, it's going to be a premium airline as AJ has stated.
 
You must be valuable. I haven't got the most valued customer email, yet. Just to confirm what i already knew. ;)

Was your one flight F to LAX?

All about making people feel valued...

Hello medhead

As one of our most valued customers, I want to share with you our commitment to building a stronger Qantas. A Qantas that will be better for you.

Since 1920, Qantas has represented the best of what air travel can be. A pioneer that introduced flying to a young nation, carried generations of Australians to meet the world, and became one of the world's great airlines.

Now the times have changed again and Qantas is changing with them.

The new Qantas will take on our global competitors with a spirit that will make Australians proud. An airline that builds on our unrivalled safety record and over 90 years of experience. That offers Australians more choices through new gateways to more destinations around the world. A state-of-the-art fleet with the best comfort, service and entertainment in the sky. An airline that will be strong, dependable and profitable now and into the future.

Of course, as we build a stronger Qantas, some things will never change.

We will always be owned by Australians. We will always be proud that the vast majority of our operations are based in Australia.

We will always call Australia home.

For further information visit our dedicated microsite atqantas.com/anewspirit. You can also keep up to date on other Qantas business issues at qantasanswers.com.

With warm wishes,
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Alan Joyce
CEO Qantas Airways
 
I'm assuming the new QF group airline will be like JQ Japan, a LCC. If so and if located in KL it should not cause MH any grief as it would target the lower side of the market and would keep MH as the new and only OW entrant in the region.

Or maybe a JV between JQ and AirAsia?

Which part of Premium Asian airline did you not read? Premium?
 
I just re-read the text of the speech. It wasn't clear to me if Qantas is going to stop SYD-NRT flights to be replaced by the new Jetstar Japan carrier.

Since they didn't specifically mention that I assume that I'll still be able to upgrade to a roomier seat on QF flight to Japan?
 
I just re-read the text of the speech. It wasn't clear to me if Qantas is going to stop SYD-NRT flights to be replaced by the new Jetstar Japan carrier.

Since they didn't specifically mention that I assume that I'll still be able to upgrade to a roomier seat on QF flight to Japan?

Jetstar Japan is initially going to be a domestic carrier.
 
I just re-read the text of the speech. It wasn't clear to me if Qantas is going to stop SYD-NRT flights to be replaced by the new Jetstar Japan carrier.

Since they didn't specifically mention that I assume that I'll still be able to upgrade to a roomier seat on QF flight to Japan?

It is business as usual on the SYD-NRT for Qantas, there are no changes.
 
Incorrect, it's going to be a premium airline as AJ has stated.

Ah so. Interesting to see where it's hub will be. If in KL, MH would not be a happy camper, which I suspect would be the case with any QF group premium airline in MH's patch. So how to keep MH, CX and JL happy with a new premium airline and hub in their patch of the planet? Sin maybe to upset SQ?

Now lets see where those new F Lounges being built?

LAX,
HKG,
SIN - interesting that

Surely a new premium Asian airline would need a F Lounge to service it's high value customers?
 
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Hi there, I just mean with Malaysia joining oneworld, there'll be more opportunities for earning and burning QFF points with them throigh KL.

Sorry I thought QF might have started flying to KL based on reports that BA and QF are in talks with the airport at the moment..
 
An interesting comment just posted on The West web site by well respected aviation reporter


Why this Qantas plan must succeed

GEOFFREY THOMAS AVIATION EDITOR COMMENT, The West Australian August 16, 2011, 11:56 am


The restructure of the Qantas Group is long overdue and essential for its long-term viability as an aviation business.And that is the key - because Qantas is no longer an airline, it is a business that seeks opportunities wherever they may be.
But with only 18 out of every 100 travellers in and out of Australia choosing what is the world’s best airline brand, the flying kangaroo is in more trouble than the A380 which suffered an engine explosion last November.
And the airline’s market share into Asia is even worse at a paltry 14 per cent.
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has announced a raft of changes with more to come in a five-year plan to turn the international operation around while tapping into the world’s fastest growing travel market - Asia.
The challenge for Mr Joyce however is not to make the changes or set up the airlines it is to take the staff with him on the journey.
If some of the more militant unions don’t have an epiphany on their stated hard line stance on job security then there is going to be serious turbulence and grief.
And circling Qantas are airline such as Singapore Airlines and Emirates with costs up to 20 per cent lower just waiting to lure more passengers.
But the staff are wary.
They have seen missed opportunities during the 1990s. Qantas the last major airline to put in-flight entertainment systems into economy class.
And despite the fact that Australian’s are the second tallest travellers and fly the longest distances Qantas has only recently installed premium economy - 20 years behind some airlines.
The staff has also witnessed the botched Airline Partners Australia buyout in 2007 that would have seen Qantas bankrupted if it had succeeded.
Unless Mr Joyce can convince the staff of his vision and secure their trust the airline as it is today is doomed and will go the way of Ansett, which collapsed 10 years ago next month.
That failure saw 16,000 people lose their jobs while unsecured creditors lost $3 billion.
Sobering, and tragic numbers, by any measure.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/10048655
 
AJ has a very loose definition of "premium" IMO

Premium is not where you defer 6 aircraft orders for almost 10 years!

R.I.P. mainline Int'l!
 
It's nice to have official confirmation.

Just like we can assume that Qantas would position it for OW membership, but it's not official...

I have been poring over a map to try and figure where this new airline would be. Surely it wouldn't be where there are exisiting OW partners (remove Hong Kong, Tokyo, KL etc..). Would it be where OW are weak? e.g. Mainland China?

For myself, I would love it if OW had an airline in China using one of the main Southern cities as a base. Kunming would be an awesome place to start. Geographically very good as a hub, with a decent sized local population. Any other ideas?

Have you ever done business in mainland China? I mean, it seems you probably have from your comment, personally I would prefer to be running an airline somewhere else if I were CEO.

Chengdu would be awesome as a base though, imagine the food in the lounges!!
 
Whilst your still here Red Roo, any chance of fixing up the inability to allocate seats on codeshares ( BA/JQ etc etc) ASAP?
After posting earlier today I rang the Platinum desk one more time:
"Can I allocate seats for my family on upcoming BA Flight, part of multi city itinerary booked through QF?"
"No unable to do that, seats will be allocated at check in."
Then she went on to say that codeshares were a big problem and it was usually easier and better to book QF flights only :eek: ( she must have missed the press release)
 
No.A proper F lounge!;)

Overall I am happy with this announcement.Should fit in well with my OW flying.

Hopefully OW will be getting more integration of FF programs-eg the AA/BA/IB tie up where I can use my AA miles to upgrade on BA/IB.

Also I have noticed that JQ is slowly being integrated into OW.I am looking at a Circle Trip Explorer fare for travel to IST next year and noted this in the rules-


And Red Roo thanks for the updates.Just one question re MH-will you be getting closer ties before they officially join OW?

The ties with MH will be as oneworld members, once they officially join, not prior.
 
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I was talking about ASA redemptions, not earning :) edit: and upgrades ... not being able to do points upgrades for the "long" half of the trip to Europe is a definite negative.

Yes, Red Roo, can you give some insights as to whether we can do points ugrade on these partner airlines? Earning points and redemptions (Any seats/classic) are one thing but using points for upgrades? Guess a lot of us are interested in this one!
Thanks.
 
Dear Red Roo

This, from the New Spirit page:

One-stop flights to destinations in Europe on oneworld member-elect Malaysia Airlines, including Istanbul, Rome and Amsterdam

gives the impression that Qantas will fly to KUL to connect with MH, otherwise how is this part of the "new spirit"? Or will it be a codeshare on MH all the way?

thanks

LO
 
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