Carry on Shame

[TomVexille]

My usual carry on bag and personal item/ laptop shoulder bag can stand up on their bottom edge in the same footprint as a wheelie bag. I feel perfectly justified in not putting one on top of the other.

I'm astounded by people who throw in their laptop bag to take the largest possible footprint and don't stand their bags up

Another good way of doing it.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

I was on an Alaska Airlines flight SFO/SEA back in 2009 & when I boarded all the overhead bins were chocked block with rollaboards - absolutely no room to squeeze any personal items anywhere. It was a 738 a/c so a lot of people who couldn't find space had to walk down to the a/c door & give their carry on to staff so it could be put underneath in the hold, a process some airlines refer to as 'a la carte' or 'valet the bag'.

Despite commencing boarding at least 45 minutes prior to departure the flight still departed late due to the cabin baggage that didn't fit in the cabin having to be put underneath in the hold. This can have a huge impact on on-time departure performance.

I put my rollaboard under the seat in front with my handbag on the floor under my legs. The downside of the scenario was when we took off from SFO I grabbed by camera out of my handbag to take a photo of the Golden Gate bridge and my passport got flicked onto the cabin floor as it must've got caught up in my camera strap.

We got off in SEA but my passport continued on to DFW onboard the plane but by the time the passport made its way back to SEA we were in Vegas however I was eventually reunited with it 6 days later in New York as I gave my cc details to AS & they sent it by Fed Ex to our hotel there.



The above pic was taken while we were sitting in the Admirals Club at MIA watching a B757 being loaded. The hold had already been locked up with the checked luggage however was reopened several times for carryon size luggage items that could no longer be accommodated in the passenger cabin due to lack of space.

The belt loader had been removed from the aircraft hold and wasn't repositioned back and instead an employee stood on it and tossed the bag in which doesn't really look like a safe practice as it was raining so he could've slipped or injured himself.

 

[eastwest101]

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The above pic was taken while we were sitting in the Admirals Club at MIA watching a B757 being loaded. The hold had already been locked up with the checked luggage however was reopened several times for carryon size luggage items that could no longer be accommodated in the passenger cabin due to lack of space.

The belt loader had been removed from the aircraft hold and wasn't repositioned back and instead an employee stood on it and tossed the bag in which doesn't really look like a safe practice as it was raining so he could've slipped or injured himself.

Thats a classic example of a large business having 'silos' and the law unintended consequences - you can bet that the person whom first thought up/implemented checked in luggage fees as an additional revenue source sure does not pay the wages of these guys here, and is not responsible for on-time performance of the aircraft or indeed the safety of the ground crew.

Or here is another way of thinking about it - compare the $$/hour cost of implementing and enforcing a sensible checked baggae and hand luggage policy vs the $$/hour of that B757 sitting on the tarmac being late to its next destination, or indeed building a checked luggage allowance into each airfare and then using the existing check-in baggage infrastructure already at the airport. :shock: Pinching the pennies and throwing away the pounds!

Thats a "de-bottle necking" guru's next contract right there.

 

[TomVexille]

Thats a classic example of a large business having 'silos' and the law unintended consequences - you can bet that the person whom first thought up/implemented checked in luggage fees as an additional revenue source sure does not pay the wages of these guys here, and is not responsible for on-time performance of the aircraft or indeed the safety of the ground crew.

Or here is another way of thinking about it - compare the $$/hour cost of implementing and enforcing a sensible checked baggae and hand luggage policy vs the $$/hour of that B757 sitting on the tarmac being late to its next destination, or indeed building a checked luggage allowance into each airfare and then using the existing check-in baggage infrastructure already at the airport. :shock: Pinching the pennies and throwing away the pounds!

Thats a "de-bottle necking" guru's next contract right there.

That's an excellent point. I have friends in the US who pretty much only fly WN as you can check two bags free. They don't even tend to look at other options.

 

[AusTraveller]

On a slightly humorous note. I just had my small carry on bag weighed at BNE international at the security check point before customs. I can't imagine what would have happened if I was carrying Krispy Kreme's or half my luggage collection :shock:

Anyway it was fine and I have just escaped the Qantas lounge and I've started on the verve in the Emirates lounge

 

[alieninperth]

Well all flights should be Kristy Kreme less in future, an outlet is opening in Perth tomorrow. It will certainly stop requests from colleagues when I fly...

 

[eastwest101]

That's an excellent point. I have friends in the US who pretty much only fly WN as you can check two bags free. They don't even tend to look at other options.

And thats the other thing I forgot to mention - the pure market economist would argue that the competative market place will eventually sort it out (as exemplified by your freinds buying behaviour in the US) with the less efficient operators going out of business. Obviously the Southwest guys sat down and did all the sums on cabin baggage and checkin luggage and cost of wages/fuel/turnaround times and aircraft utilization for their B737 operation and came up with a completely different answer to a lot of other airlines.

 

[medhead]

Well all flights should be Kristy Kreme less in future, an outlet is opening in Perth tomorrow. It will certainly stop requests from colleagues when I fly...

Actually, one of the regulars (platinum) on SYD ADL had a box last week and the ADL shop opened a while ago.

In the first six months of my commute to SYD after seeing all these people with KK, I tried it once. The kids tried one and then refused to have anymore. Needless to say, I just don't get the point.

 

[cove]

Hot fresh KKDs are really good. Cold ones are pretty useless.
The only reason they are not 100% fat is because of the sugar coating I think.

 

[clazman]

I think that KKD should at least send a box to the office of AFF to say thanks for the free publicity

 

[Warks]

Great idea for a movie.

Carry On Doctor
Carry On Camping
Carry On Shame...

 

[medhead]

Really? My opinion is that most of their flying customers are numpties. Not sure that would be good

 

[whatmeworry]

Governments need to legislate that the first bag is checked in for free, regardless whether the airline is LCC or full service.

 

[Virgin Bart]

Governments need to legislate that the first bag is checked for free, regardless whether the airline is LCC or full service.

I strongly disagree.

 

[prozac]

Any changed conditions would be factored into ticket cost.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Why is it that people will leave an ipad on board an aircraft but never a box of Krispy Kremes?

On a slightly humorous note. I just had my small carry on bag weighed at BNE international at the security check point before customs.

I can't imagine what would have happened if I was carrying Krispy Kreme's or half my luggage collection :shock:

You probably would've had to give him a couple of KK's on order to pass go!

Hot fresh KKDs are really good. Cold ones are pretty useless.

The only reason they are not 100% fat is because of the sugar coating I think.

Have a look at the 'nutrition' label underneath the KK box. I forget if it's one or two of the basic KK glazed variety that contain the same fat as a Big Mac.

 

[Borisdog]

Some of you pampered city folk need to go and live in small country towns
I spent many years in Kununurra in the Kimberley, the planes from Perth/Darwin had more KFC, Maccas, HJ's in them than they did genuine hand luggage.

 

[medhead]

Some of you pampered city folk need to go and live in small country towns
I spent many years in Kununurra in the Kimberley, the planes from Perth/Darwin had more KFC, Maccas, HJ's in them than they did genuine hand luggage.

Lol. The Hungary jacks nearest the small country town I used live in would sell unheated burgers. Pop them in the esky for the 3 hour drive home and you have a supply for the next little while. Microwave to heat.

 

[Warks]

Why is it that people will leave an ipad on board an aircraft but never a box of Krispy Kremes?

You can't eat an Ipad? Then again...

 

[prozac]

Lol. The Hungary jacks nearest the small country town I used live in would sell unheated burgers. Pop them in the esky for the 3 hour drive home and you have a supply for the next little while. Microwave to heat.

End of a long day and I simply can't think of anything witty that goes with Hungary. The burger was cooked in Greece and topped with Turkey... oh dear.