Computer help and discussion

[serfty]

The sneaky install is flagged with a pop up.

It looks like one of those offers to upgrade that you can generally decline by clicking the X at the top right corner of the pop-up.

However it is really advice that an OS change to Win 10 has been scheduled - clicking the X closes the pop-up but does not change the schedule ... which is normally for something like 3am.

To avoid the upgrade at this point, rather than clicking the X, you need to select "reschedule" in the middle and cancel the changeover.

SWMBO was conned by this and the next day way horrified to see a "Welcome to windows 10" screen.

I was able to decline at the first step and have it back out; which took 20 minutes.

However Win7 came up with "Non Genuine" notifications and many tailorings gone.

At this point I had to do a full system restore from a week old backup, first saving her outlook data and documents.

Now all ok and even faster than before on Win7 (due I think to partition reformat and more contiguous system files).

I do plan to upgrade in the next six weeks, firstly taking an image of the current platform - changing OS, taking an image after that and restoring the win7 image.

 

[wandering_fred]

Re: Scams like these

XP is better than 8.1!

If I could get a CD/DVD of all the XP patches post-SP3, I might agree with you. We now have one box running each.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[jb747]

Re: Scams like these

I only run Windows in a virtual environment (i.e. an emulation under another operating system). I only just deleted XP last week.

 

[rainbowgirl]

Re: Scams like these

I only run Windows in a virtual environment (i.e. an emulation under another operating system). I only just deleted XP last week.

We run our web browsers and email clients under a virtual environment. We don't run any Microsoft systems on our network. Everything is Unix based.

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: Scams like these

We run our web browsers and email clients under a virtual environment. We don't run any Microsoft systems on our network. Everything is Unix based.

I wish. My work laptop is Win7. Ugh.

My first language was APL taught at school sending cards off to Angle Park computing centre. Ahh, those were the days. Mind you, I still have a soft spot for OS/2

 

[jb747]

Re: Scams like these

My first language was APL taught at school sending cards off to Angle Park computing centre. Ahh, those were the days. Mind you, I still have a soft spot for OS/2

Youngster.

Fortran and Cobol on an ICL1901. I think a sneaker has more processing power.

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: Scams like these

Youngster.

Fortran and Cobol on an ICL1901. I think a sneaker has more processing power.

Indeed. I had to wait until uni before I got to Fortran and COBOL.

 

[Boris spatsky]

Re: Scams like these

Indeed. I had to wait until uni before I got to Fortran and COBOL.

And throw in ADA as well

 

[ChrisGibbs]

Re: Scams like these

And throw in ADA as well

ADA - that brings back memories - Countess Lovelace.... Showing my age here but spent many years programming in CMS-2 and Assembler with the RAN NCDS DDG's and FFG's on the Univac UYK-7's (32 bit), UYK-20's (16 bit) followed by the UYK-43's, UYK-44's. The RAN has since decommissioned these but I heard recently the USN are still using them. With the UYK-7 it was amazing what you could achieve with three instruction processors, four input/output controllers, and up to 16 memory modules totalling 262,144 words

 

[serfty]

Re: Scams like these

Algol ........

Nothing like the joy of mdbs on an 8 inch floppy.

Now (no googling the answer here) how many can say what each of the program languages or operating systems meant (not as acronyms that is)?

• BASIC
• COBOL
• MDBS
• CP/M

No "B"!

But these are languages not OSs.

but don't forget the immortal words of

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1fISh-pag

I remember FORTRAN 4 and acoustic couplers very well.

And throw in ADA as well

You forgot "Pascal" ..

 

[TheRealTMA]

Re: Scams like these

You forgot "Pascal" ..

And for good reason!

 

[wandering_fred]

Re: Scams like these

Real programmers had to throw in at least a few routines in Assembler Language to make sure things worked efficiently... Or you could actually hook up that "strange" printer and get meaningful output. Or store a date in two bytes (blown away eventually by the Y2K issues)

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[moa999]

I quite like Win10.. I am however getting sick of the reminders to upgrade Office (I'm running 2010 and it's perfectly fine)

 

[wandering_fred]

I quite like Win10.. I am however getting sick of the reminders to upgrade Office (I'm running 2010 and it's perfectly fine)

Make certain that the "upgrades" do not include a subscription installation...

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[prozac]

Had a look at laptops today in Hardly Normal. Not impressed with the W10 interface. Did someone mention you can change that to a Classic view? I had a play around but could not find where that could be achieved.

 

[sinophile888]

Re: Scams like these

I finally upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 when the only option I was given was the date for the upgrade to occur. Message said everything would be just the same. I now cannot find the calculator and the card games I used to relax with have changed to a completely different format which is much harder to read. There are a few other things which I also don't like.

Is there a "Go back to Windows 7" option?

I bit the bullet, googled how to uninstall Windows 10 and reinstall Windows 7 and followed all the instructions. It all came apart when I couldn't restart my computer. I couldn't even get anything on the screen. I finally took the computer to an IT friend who worked on it for 3 hours. He got into the computer, saved everything to an external hard drive and then reinstalled Windows 7. It seem almost back to where it was.

All I have to do now is to work out how to save documents to the cloud so I have a third place where files are saved. I get some free cloud space with Office, and will only save important files like anything travel related.

 

[jb747]

Re: Scams like these

Real programmers had to throw in at least a few routines in Assembler Language to make sure things worked efficiently... Or you could actually hook up that "strange" printer and get meaningful output. Or store a date in two bytes (blown away eventually by the Y2K issues)

I did that and managed to disconnect all of the terminals attached to the machine. The operators were not happy. But...I was only a high school student.

 

[pjm99au]

Getting slightly back on topic. My setup is perfect for me

Mac running OS X with Windows 7 x64 on a separate partition through boot camp when I need Windows

All selected at startup by reFind boot manager (same configuration as the QP Macs)

4 year old MacBooks and iMac still running as fast as the day they were bought with all the latest updates. Yes the upfront cost can be higher but the longevity and flexibility pays off over time

 

[prozac]

Getting slightly back on topic. My setup is perfect for me

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This thread was specifically convened to enable endless ramblings about anything remotely computer related. It originated with posters bragging about what useless language they were or weren't proficient in on an unrelated thread, hence why mods carved it off.
I think the word "discussion" in the title is the giveaway.

You initially had me wondering why the X64 W7, but it was explained by the end of the post. You must have specific uses for a W OS to bother.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

This thread was specifically convened to enable endless ramblings about anything remotely computer related. It originated with posters bragging about what useless language they were or weren't proficient in on an unrelated thread, hence why mods carved it off.
I think the word "discussion" in the title is the giveaway.

....:shock: