Coronavirus (COVID-19) Respiratory illness - Effect on Travel

[Quickstatus]

Mine was a general comment about antibiotics and scrips.

Yes I understand. I was just tweaking it and making it relevant to the thread.

 

[I love to travel]

Absolute mess at Changi - cabs avoiding coming to the airport to pick up passengers, everyone wearing masks....

Interesting article which picks up on tourism impact in Singapore.

Singapore says China virus outbreak will hit its economy this year

www.cnbc.com

 

[Quickstatus]

And here in AUS as well. I feel for the bushfire hit areas as they really depend on tourism. This will be a double/triple whammy.

All the more reason for Aussies to holiday domestically.
Our next break will be up in Port Macquarie.

 

[Pushka]

And here in AUS as well. I feel for the bushfire hit areas as they really depend on tourism. This will be a double/triple whammy.

All the more reason for Aussies to holiday domestically.
Our next break will be up in Port Macquarie.

Yes I agree with this. I’m supporting one of our favourite wineries who lost 100% of their vineyards. How do you recover from that! We already have all our trips for this year booked so can’t change those now.

 

[Pushka]

Celebrity Cruise line (And RCL) not taking any chances with people from affected areas:
“We are closely following developments in consultation with the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control, and local health officials and have taken precautionary measures to ensure the well-being of our guests and crewmembers. Our guests are receiving enhanced, public health screenings at the China and Singapore terminals and secondary screenings by local health authorities. On guidance from government officials, boarding will be denied for anyone who lives in, or recently passed through, any city or province under government travel restrictions. We continue to provide onboard medical consultations, sanitize high-traffic areas on our vessels, and work directly with guests on any itinerary modifications. Please be advised that, at this time, normal cancellation policies apply. “

 

[amaroo]

I'm sure I've never received a repeat for antibiotics ... I've always thought if one scrip doesn't do it, its into hospital for a drip?

The kids get repeats all the time for Antibiotics. For us 50% of the time.

 

[amaroo]

Interesting article which picks up on tourism impact in Singapore.

Singapore says China virus outbreak will hit its economy this year

www.cnbc.com

That will really knock the casino business around.

 

[Pushka]

That will really knock the casino business around.

The Lobster industry in Port Lincoln is also messed around. Serves them right for selling 95% of their output overseas and excessively charging South Aussies for a local product. And cheekily they have asked for Government assistance in restricting fishing to prevent oversupply in Australia

 

[I love to travel]

The Lobster industry in Port Lincoln is also messed around. Serves them right for selling 95% of their output overseas and excessively charging South Aussies for a local product. And cheekily they have asked for Government assistance.

To be honest with the enormous amount of money they usually make they can afford a lean year. Would be very cross if govt assistance was given to them.

 

[sjk]

Infection now confirmed for a bus driver of Chinese tourists here in Japan, media going nuts.

 

[Quickstatus]

The other whammy is the China domestic GDP will fall (as it also did when SARS hit.

Which could have flow on effects to AUS.
Trump will be happy he can squeeze China a bit more

How does that affect baby powdered milk?

 

[I love to travel]

Infection now confirmed for a bus driver of Chinese tourists here in Japan, media going nuts.

Time frames on when they were infected?

 

[jase05]

That will really knock the casino business around.

Monday’s CNY races at Sha Tin normally has over 100k in attendance but was restricted to just 8k. Fair dent in the coffers

 

[I love to travel]

The other whammy is the China domestic GDP will fall (as it also did when SARS hit.

Which could have flow on effects to AUS.
Trump will be happy he can squeeze China a bit more

How does that affect baby powdered milk?

Will be interesting to see how dow jones does tonight. They had their panic day yesterday but in the absence of any other economic data if we have another bad day could mean interesting times ahead.

 

[sjk]

Japan bus driver infected with virus after driving Chinese tourists

The first case of a new coronavirus infection not linked to a person recently arrived from China has been confirmed in Japan, Health Minister Katsunobu Kato says.

english.kyodonews.net

 

[drron]

The kids get repeats all the time for Antibiotics. For us 50% of the time.

Not on the PBS though as they cut out repeats for antibiotics so only repeats if a private script or your doctor writes a separate script.

Then again the Sunshine Coast certainly was an area that overdid antibiotics.Haven't worked on the coast for years so don't know the current situation.

 

[Quickstatus]

Wuhan still is the link. Will be interesting to find the date when the busdriver came into contact with the Wuhan tourists.

Dec31 was the day when China alerted WHO. So go back 14 days from that.

 

[Pushka]

Japan bus driver infected with virus after driving Chinese tourists

The first case of a new coronavirus infection not linked to a person recently arrived from China has been confirmed in Japan, Health Minister Katsunobu Kato says.

english.kyodonews.net

So it can be spread human to human. That’s been kind of denied until now, and as recently as on tonight’s media news.

 

[Quickstatus]

So it can be spread human to human. That’s been kind of denied until now, and as recently as on tonight’s media news.

China alerted WHO on Dec31 about what is now called n-COV. The first confirmed case outside China was 13 January, and soon after that there was a suspicion of H-H transmission beause none of the international cases were near the live wild animal markets.
Initially thought to be animal to human contact - live animal markets were the first suspected ground zero but within weeks China has said H-H transmission is occurring.
bear in mind this is all occuring very fast and the timeline is a bit compressed. This has been going for less than a month but may have been occuring for several weeks before that until the Health authorities noted a jump in respiratory disease in a large city.

SARS-COV and MER-COV were both from bats

Initially n-COV also though to be from bats as similar genetic sequence found but with later studies thought to have originated from Snakes. But complication is snakes hunt bats so it is also likely bat gave it to snakes as the intermediate host and then snakes to humans. How snakes gave it to humans was probably at the time of slaughter. The wild animal market sold snakes and bats. In the Middle East the MER-COV intermediate host was camel and Civets

Snakes are cold blooded and bats warm blooded. That the virus could adapt meant a certain level of mutation and then from snakes to humans. WHO is reporting that the virus is mutating rapidly making it difficult to get a workable vaccine going.

Much is know already about the virus - there is evidence that the virus is a combined version of a bat COV and maybe a snake COV. The entire genetic sequence is already known since January 12 when China posted it but for the mutations. Mutations can also be bad for an organism. If an organism is perfectly adapted to its environment it is better to have zero mutations.
This virus like many viruses have a spike which helps it attach to and inject its DNA into the host cell.

The take home message for China is to reduce of consumption of wild animals. But the Chinese have demonstrated a sophisticated scientific, virology and public health expertise.

n-COV now called 2019-nCOV

New word for AFF members:
Zoonosis: a disease that be spread from animals to humans.

 

[cove]

Aside from the health issues we know there will be delays of goods shipments out of China now with Chinese New Year being extended to February 2nd and government offices closing thru to February 9th. These dates may get extended depending on what happens over the next few days.
Thanks Quickstatus for putting this virus into perspective. It is possible that China is not currently reporting true numbers of cases as the news is released from Beijing rather than the provinces where the cases are being treated.