COVID-19 and Tennis

[MARTINE]

"Wasn't me. The dog ate my homework and filled in the forms."

Novak Djokovic blames agent for Australian paperwork ‘mistake’ and admits not isolating after positive Covid result

Djokovic in Instagram statement fails to address media reports which have raised questions over his 16 December positive PCR result

www.theguardian.com

And did my PCR

 

[Lynda2475]

Looks like TA (or his Aussie Lawyers) may have also helped Novak write his tweets today as the phrase "out of an abundance of caution" is used and we know that is popular here, but doesn't sound remotely Serbian.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Looks like TA (or his Aussie Lawyers) may have also helped Novak write his tweets today as the phrase "out of an abundance of caution is used" and we know that is popular here, but doesn't sound remotely Serbian.

Triple Fault!!

I mean if that post today, is his way of winning favour - the real truth is he must've really goofed much more up.

 

[AviatorPJ]

Also any adult entering Australia is responsible for completing their own entry paperwork, Novak may have delegate to manager/aide but he is still accountable for the accuracy of the information provided.

This is irrefutable. Inaccurate information provided. Novak is accountable for providing it. Q.E.D.

 

[jakeseven7]

There's also some suggestions he may have falsified his COVID test result in order to gain the exemption. But that one may be a bit of a long bow.

We need 2 months to investigate this

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

We need 2 months to investigate this

Sorry only until 29/1 (ie day before men's final), preferably before tournament begins (ie by 16/1)

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Still interested in Spain entry rules relevant to covid positive, not that Spain knew Djokovic was in their country

 

[jrfsp]

Still interested in Spain entry rules relevant to covid positive, not that Spain knew Djokovic was in their country

I find that hard to believe, Serbia is not in the EU / Schengen zone so would have had to pass through passport control and should have had to present a negative covid19 test (being unvaccinated). or recovery certificate

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Whether this was actually checked is another question. How did he travel from Belgrade to Spain, commercially or private? If commercial he likely transited via another EU country so perhaps they dont have a record of him entering the country but Im sure there is a central EU / Schengen database which spain would have access to.

 

[prozac]

I think keeping the lawyers involved leaves the door open to stage a significant case of indignation. Remembering that indignation for liars is directly proportional to the size of the lie.
When the lawyers are notified by Hawke's department that he has no case against deportation Novax will board a plane of his own free will, so that he is not banned for 3 yrs, declaring in doing so he has been victimised and stupid-shamed into leaving the tournament and the country. He will invoke the "How dare you" clause to attract sympathy.
Might as well say "bla, bla, bla" for all it's worth.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I find that hard to believe, Serbia is not in the EU / Schengen zone so would have had to pass through passport control and should have had to present a negative covid19 test (being unvaccinated). or recovery certificate

Spanish Tourism | Tourist information on Spain | spain.info

Tourist information about Spain: art, culture, museums, monuments, beaches, cities, fiestas, routes, cuisine, natural spaces in Spain | spain.info

travelsafe.spain.info

Whether this was actually checked is another question. How did he travel from Belgrade to Spain, commercially or private? If commercial he likely transited via another EU country so perhaps they dont have a record of him entering the country but Im sure there is a central EU / Schengen database which spain would have access to.

Thanks, very informative. Djokovic might be a Monaco resident, because he used to use Monaco as a training base previously, so it is possible the negative test (22/12) that was 48-72 prior to arrival was enough to get in.

I also remember reading a media report that Djokovic arrived by road, but I don't think it was from Serbia.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I think keeping the lawyers involved leaves the door open to stage a significant case of indignation. Remembering that indignation for liars is directly proportional to the size of the lie.
When the lawyers are notified by Hawke's department that he has no case against deportation Novax will board a plane of his own free will, so that he is not banned for 3 yrs, declaring in doing so he has been victimised and stupid-shamed into leaving the tournament and the country. He will invoke the "How dare you" clause to attract sympathy.
Might as well say "bla, bla, bla" for all it's worth.

I don't think the Minister will come out and say there is no case (then he removes his ability to subsequently remove if Djokovic tries to play silly buggers). But I do think there is a possibility the Minister might indicate that he is almost about to make an adverse decision to give Djokovic a chance to voluntarily depart Australia. Don't forget the Minister doesn't have to automatically give the 3 year ban

 

[drron]

Novak has ignored his own countries requirements if you test positive for covid.

If you test positive for coronavirus while in Serbia, you will be required to self-isolate at an address of your choosing for at least 14 days, likely a hotel or private residence, at your own cost. You may be contacted by the authorities and be hospitalised if deemed medically necessary. Minors will be subject to the same regulations as adults.

So a positive on 16/12 would mean isolation until 29/12 but he was in Spain by then.

But also ignored their mask rules.

There are nationwide rules in place restricting movement and limiting activity. It is mandatory to maintain physical distance of at least 1.5m in all public spaces. Protective face masks are mandatory in all public spaces indoors, and, outdoors when the area is crowded. Failure to wear a mask when required will incur a fine. Self-isolation, when required, will be enforced.

Serbia travel advice

FCDO travel advice for Serbia. Includes safety and security, insurance, entry requirements and legal differences.

www.gov.uk

So why is the Serbian PM not enforcing her own rules which Novax has obviously treated with contempt.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Novak has ignored his own countries requirements if you test positive for covid.

So a positive on 16/12 would mean isolation until 29/12 but he was in Spain by then.

But also ignored their mask rules.

Serbia travel advice

FCDO travel advice for Serbia. Includes safety and security, insurance, entry requirements and legal differences.

www.gov.uk

So why is the Serbian PM not enforcing her own rules which Novax has obviously treated with contempt.

That is another good line to walk through - what rules are applicable in Serbia. But I would also guess by 22/12 (negative test) some of these isolation rules won't apply anymore.

Some parts of Australia allow removal of masks for media (eg TV appearance), so perhaps if one was generous, it could be arguable that mask was removed for media photos in Serbia for those 2 days. Don't forget Mr Djokovic claims he didn't know he was positive until after the 17/12 appearance - which of course can be substantiated in some way

 

[prozac]

I don't think the Minister will come out and say there is no case (then he removes his ability to subsequently remove if Djokovic tries to play silly buggers)....

Who said there is no case?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Who said there is no case?

You did?? (see bold below)

I think keeping the lawyers involved leaves the door open to stage a significant case of indignation. Remembering that indignation for liars is directly proportional to the size of the lie.
When the lawyers are notified by Hawke's department that he has no case against deportation Novax will board a plane of his own free will, so that he is not banned for 3 yrs, declaring in doing so he has been victimised and stupid-shamed into leaving the tournament and the country. He will invoke the "How dare you" clause to attract sympathy.
Might as well say "bla, bla, bla" for all it's worth.

 

[MARTINE]

Is AO having trouble selling tickets?
I got this tonight (bring friends cheaper tix)…and the ‘e’ word continues to baffle me.ATAGI (and NoVax et al) refer to EXEMPTION but now it all reads EXCEPTION. I have not read the latter in any other context.

 

[MARTINE]

Is AO having trouble selling tickets?
I got this tonight (bring friends cheaper tix)…and the ‘e’ word continues to baffle me.ATAGI (and NoVax et al) refer to EXEMPTION but now it all reads EXCEPTION. I have not read the latter in any other context.
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‘An abundance of caution’ perhaps lest the punters get confused that Novax gets an ‘exemption’ everyone else an ‘exception’.

How to get immunisation history statements - Australian Immunisation Register - Services Australia

How to get your immunisation history statements and get proof of vaccinations. You can also do this for your child.

www.servicesaustralia.gov.au

But…..Nowhere is the word ‘exception‘ used in ATAGI advice.

 

[Pushka]

Novak has ignored his own countries requirements if you test positive for covid.

So a positive on 16/12 would mean isolation until 29/12 but he was in Spain by then.

But also ignored their mask rules.

Serbia travel advice

FCDO travel advice for Serbia. Includes safety and security, insurance, entry requirements and legal differences.

www.gov.uk

So why is the Serbian PM not enforcing her own rules which Novax has obviously treated with contempt.

She wasn't happy when I saw her being interviewed tonight. She said that an offence would have occurred if true.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

She wasn't happy when I saw her being interviewed tonight. She said that an offence would have occurred if true.

Where is this? I'd like to see the Serbia PM need to make a contrary statement (ie be negative on Djokovic) of sorts.

 

[OATEK]

Where is this? I'd like to see the Serbia PM need to make a contrary statement (ie be negative on Djokovic) of sorts.

I saw it on Sky tonight. Serbian PM condemns Novak Djokovic: ‘The laws equally apply to all’