Crew Showed MA15+ Movie to all PAX on QF59

[RooFlyer]

Agree, this doesn't sound quite right. And even if it was, you can't tell me there was no way to put something over the screen (i.e. in the event that a parent wished to prevent their child from watching the screen in front of them).

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the film should have been shown or kept being shown when its content became apparent.

Sarcasm aside, I'd love to know how many passengers spoke up about the unsuitability of the film. Leaving it run for an hour before switching film choice sounds a bit unlikely (unless it took that long for people to decide that the film was too racy for general viewing).

From the report, quoting Qantas, when they realised it was unsuitable (presumably, it took a while for the juicy bits to appear) they tried to neuter the screens that wanted it not shown and failed. So they then turned it off.

Just a mistake, that was attempted to be rectified, couldn't, so turned off. Fair enough.

 

[RooFlyer]

Not really. The OP article said it was X rated (ie, literal cough). There’s a whopping difference between showing that to children vs an MA film.

Yes, a red herring. Irrespective of classification it contained nudity and obscenities in text. Doesn't matter if its MA or X. Unsuitable for general, unavoidable broadcast.

 

[justinbrett]

Doesn't matter if its MA or X. Unsuitable for general, unavoidable broadcast.

It does matter. It’s the difference between an apology and a court case.

I’m not defending the act but to treat the two as the same is ridiculous.

Even with working IFE plenty of kids subjected to nudity etc from their neighbours seat / row in front etc. if it’s unsuitable it shouldn’t be loaded in the system.

 

[DejaBrew]

It does matter. It’s the difference between an apology and a court case.

I’m not defending the act but to treat the two as the same is ridiculous.

Agreed.

Even with working IFE plenty of kids subjected to nudity etc from their neighbours seat / row in front etc. if it’s unsuitable it shouldn’t be loaded in the system.

With respect, where do you draw the line on what should/shouldn't be loaded onto the IFE system? Considering the Australian Classification standards, anything under an R18+ rating is technically fair game for anyone 15 and under (provided there is at least parental supervision).

 

[Quickstatus]

So which passenger asked for that movie?. I dont think a show of hands was requested or a poll was taken

I think a simple error. I doubt the CC would have any indepth knowdge of the movie's classification. Likely wont happen again as Qantas CSMs would know to check the classification before broadcast moving forward. Or only choose from a "safe" category. The airline can organise the IFE catalog to that end

Do we really need clunky built in IFE?.
Most people have BYO IFE. Forget the olives, there are better ways to save weight

 

[justinbrett]

With respect, where do you draw the line

I’d say MA and below!

 

[DejaBrew]

I’d say MA and below!

That's kind of my point thought. Wasn't this film given an MA15+ classification? Or did I misunderstand your earlier comment and you were meaning that to R18+ (and beyond) should not be loaded?

 

[justinbrett]

That's kind of my point thought. Wasn't this film given an MA15+ classification? Or did I misunderstand your earlier comment and you were meaning that to R18+ (and beyond) should not be loaded?

No, my comment was in reply to RF - basically if it’s suitable for the IFE, any pax could be watching it and thus any other pax can be exposed to its imagery. I think MA is about right, what you get on FTA.

I guess my point was it wouldn’t have been loaded on IFE if it was “unsuitable”.

 

[DejaBrew]

No, my comment was in reply to RF - basically if it’s suitable for the IFE, any pax could be watching it and thus any other pax can be exposed to its imagery. I think MA is about right, what you get on FTA.

I guess my point was it wouldn’t have been loaded on IFE if it was “unsuitable”.

Sounds like we're in violent agreement then

 

[Big John]

I've just booked QF 59 !

Must remember to pre-load entertainment on my tablet .

 

[DejaBrew]

Must remember to pre-load entertainment on my tablet .

.....checks streaming services to confirm where the highly-rated film "Daddio" can be downloaded for offline viewing

 

[RooFlyer]

It does matter. It’s the difference between an apology and a court case.

Even with working IFE plenty of kids subjected to nudity etc from their neighbours seat / row in front etc. if it’s unsuitable it shouldn’t be loaded in the system.

No, my comment was in reply to RF - basically if it’s suitable for the IFE, any pax could be watching it and thus any other pax can be exposed to its imagery. I think MA is about right, what you get on FTA.

The point you are not considering in this is that, irrespective of its classification, irrespective that kids might see it by looking between seats etc (and then it becomes a matter for parent's control), in this case it was in everyone's face, without (we are told) it being able to be turned off. That's the difference.

I guess my point was it wouldn’t have been loaded on IFE if it was “unsuitable”.

Under proper controls, and choice, as is usual on aircraft, of course it could be loaded into the IFE, as many adult films are. But in this case, again, it was on everyone's screen, in kids' faces, without choice and, by Qantas' acknowledgment, it WAS unsuitable for 'general exhibition'. They tried to stop the general viewing, failed, so they turned it off. No scandal, just a stuff up.

Move on ...

 

[justinbrett]

Under proper controls, and choice, as is usual on aircraft, of course it could be loaded into the IFE, as many adult films are.

QF doesn’t load adult films and I think you know that.

Your careless wording is my point. Reporting that cough was shown to a flight is completely different than a MA rated film. Just because neither is acceptable doesn’t make them the same.

If the news article said “MA film shown to flight” we wouldn’t even be talking about this.

 

[oz_mark]

If the news article said “MA film shown to flight” we wouldn’t even be talking about this.

And the news.com.au headline says x-rated.

 

[SYD]

There are some things on the IFE (current, past and no doubt future) that are pretty raunchy and I’ve had to try and tilt my screen in a darkened cabin - only to realise that they don’t move very far in J…

 

[gtrod]

So... they're suggesting that Qantas flight crew didn't unilaterally select an inappropriate movie. Rather, they asked passengers what they wanted to watch and said passengers selected Daddio. I smell a beat up.

Sounds like they might be doing their best to avoid liability...

"Films and computer games classified MA 15+ are legally restricted to people aged 15 and over. They can contain content such as sex scenes and drug use that may have a strong impact on the viewer. A person may be asked to show proof of their age before purchasing, hiring or viewing an MA 15+ film or computer game."

A bunch of 14 year old kids can't go to the cinema and buy tickets to an MA film. That's illegal.

If they all had a parent with them then the adults could buy tickets for them but there are restrictions. The adults must be with the minors for the duration of the film.

No getting up to use the bathroom and leave the child unacommpanied.

A reminder kids 12+ can fly on their own. Kids younger than this can also fly without their parents/guardians as unacommpanied minors.

 

[RooFlyer]

QF doesn’t load adult films and I think you know that.

Actually, no, I didn't. . I live a sheltered life.

 

[p--and--t]

news.com.au headline says x-rated.

News.com

 

[Bundy Bear]

I know the first movie I look at on todays flight.

 

[serfty]

The Rating for the Movie is MA15+

What are the ratings?

Ratings help you to make informed choices about what you and your family watch, play and read. Learn more about what each of the ratings mean.

www.classification.gov.au

Mature Accompanied (MA 15+)​ The content is strong in impact Films and computer games classified MA 15+ are legally restricted to people aged 15 and over. They can contain content such as sex scenes and drug use that may have a strong impact on the viewer.