Cruising choices with an active Pandemic

[tgh]

and the beat goes on… it would be funny if it was not so sad

Positive COVID-19 Cases on the Viking Star and SeaDream 1 – 208 Crew and Guests Quarantined

Positive COVID-19 Cases on the Viking Star and SeaDream 1 - 208 Crew and Guests Quarantined

Crew Member Aboard Viking Star Tests Positive for COVID-19 A crew member aboard the Viking Star (right) reportedly tested positive for COVID-19 according

www.cruiselawnews.com

 

[tgh]

North to Alaska ….the Covid rush is on..

The cruise industry is running with a 100% failure rate atm…...

SEATTLE, WA. AUGUST 4TH, 2020. – The American owned, U.S. flagged small-boat adventure company, UnCruise Adventures, confirmed today that a guest received a phone call from the State of Alaska with notification of a positive COVID-19 test while onboard

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This post also has an entertainment sector ..
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[odysseus]

North to Alaska ….the Covid rush is on..

The cruise industry is running with a 100% failure rate atm…...

Not quite.

I haven't heard anything about issues with Explorer Dream since she restarted.

 

[tgh]

I haven't heard anything about issues with Explorer Dream since she restarted.

Would any issues be reported.. or perhaps just erased from any public record ?

There are probably ships cruising in local waters around the world, how they are dealing with Covid may remain unreported.

 

[VPS]

From the Seabourn Facebook Group - these people are very hopeful. I wouldn't be planning on cruising anywhere in the next 6 months or probably longer

We are on the Encore tour in November, Dubai to Bali. Anybody know something, sailing or not?

We're on the Quest to Antarctica from Santiago, Chile on November 29, 2020. Heard rumors that Princess has suspended cruises until December. Anyone heard anything about Seabourn cruise to Antarctica?

 

[odysseus]

I haven't heard anything about issues with Explorer Dream since she restarted.

Would any issues be reported.. or perhaps just erased from any public record ?

There are probably ships cruising in local waters around the world, how they are dealing with Covid may remain unreported.

All the above have been reported. Given the attention that coronavirus has, and the record these countries want to maintain, there's no way it would be unreported if cases arose.

 

[tgh]

This link is to google translate… but worth reading ...

Skipslegen meldte aldri om korona – UNN brukte to minutter på å innse alvoret

Den ene skipslegen på ekspedisjonsskipet «Roald Amundsen» er fratatt legelisensen to ganger. Den andre legen hadde ikke norsk autorisasjon.

translate.google.com

 

[drron]

So there really aren't a lot of folks paying for future cruises.

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[moa999]

So there really aren't a lot of folks paying for future cruises.

Typically accounting standards don't let you recognise revenue until you provide the service.
A booking would be
Dr Cash
Cr Unearned Revenue (which is a liability)

 

[tgh]

An industry insider comments on the state of play , pretty fair summary imo by cruising support media.

Early Efforts To Resume Cruises Fall Prey to COVID-19, Lessons Learned

(2:15 p.m. EDT ) -- Last week was a discouraging one for cruisers, with COVID-19 cases popping up on the few small ship and international lines that have resumed service. Norway, where cruising had re-emerged first from the pandemic, has put a two-week docking ban on ships with more than 100...

www.cruisecritic.com.au

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

What to wear on formal night - COVID style -

 

[tgh]

The first of many ?

The parent company of Crystal Cruises is in financial trouble - The Points Guy

Genting Hong Kong is the parent company of Crystal Cruises as well as two Asia-based cruise lines: Dream Cruises and Star Cruises.

thepointsguy.com

 

[drron]

As you know tgh I am basically interested to see if Silversea will still exist.I know it will not be the same almost certainly for the rest of my cruising days.but although things are dire RCL should still exist in some form.Some of the assessments.

While Royal Caribbean has enough liquidity to weather the storm, it still estimates to burn over $200 million per month and is likely to raise more debt along the way.
Royal Caribbean will be able to return to its 2019 levels somewhere around 2024-2026, which means that the business will have a long and painful recovery ahead.
We believe that the opportunity cost of investing in Royal Caribbean today is too high, while the upside is limited.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4369649-royal-caribbean-forget-growth-in-next-years

New York, July 14, 2020 -- Moody's Investors Service, ("Moody's") placed the ratings of Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. ("Royal Caribbean") on review for downgrade including its Ba1 Corporate Family Rating, Ba1-PD Probability of Default Rating, Baa3 senior secured rating, and Ba2 senior unsecured rating. The company's Speculative Grade Liquidity rating of SGL-2 is unchanged.

Silversea Cruise Finance Ltd. -- Moody's places the ratings of Royal Caribbean on review for downgrade

Moody's Investors Service, ("Moody's") placed the ratings of Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. ("Royal Caribbean") on review for downgrade including its Ba1 Corporate Family Rating, Ba1-PD Probability of Default Rating, Baa3 senior secured rating, and Ba2 senior unsecured rating. The company's...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[tgh]

interested to see if Silversea will still exist

Indeed.. and you are not an orphan in that respect.
The pent up demand is substantial, as is the caution from the largely well heeled / well educated clientele

 

[drron]

So even if cruises restart some ports won't take them in.
Cayman Islands.

Cruise ships banned until 2021

Cruise tourism will not be returning to the Cayman Islands until next year.

www.caymancompass.com

Seychelles not until 2022.

Seychelles island bans cruise ships from visiting until 2022

Cruises may be coming back as early as August, but they won’t be heading here.

www.foxnews.com

Viking cancels 2020.

Viking Cruises cancels sailings for the rest of 2020, cites coronavirus uncertainty

Viking Cruises has canceled its sailings through the end of the year, citing the ongoing uncertainty about the coronavirus pandemic.

www.usatoday.com

But then the unexpected.Unicruise cancelled it's Alaska season as a person tested positive on the first cruise.Unfortunately it turned out to be a false positive.

UnCruise Guests All Test Negative For COVID-19 – Avid Cruiser Cruise Reviews, Luxury Cruises, Expedition Cruises

www.avidcruiser.com

 

[tgh]

Silver spirit in the news….
It probably seemed like a good idea, local cruise , local passengers, what could go wrong ?

Coronavirus: Cruise ship in Saudi Arabia returns after suspected COVID-19 case

A cruise ship in Saudi Arabia has returned to port after a suspected COVID-19 coronavirus case was detected on board, Al Arabiya’s correspondent has

english.alarabiya.net

 

[Pushka]

Silver spirit in the news….
It probably seemed like a good idea, local cruise , local passengers, what could go wrong ?

Coronavirus: Cruise ship in Saudi Arabia returns after suspected COVID-19 case

A cruise ship in Saudi Arabia has returned to port after a suspected COVID-19 coronavirus case was detected on board, Al Arabiya’s correspondent has

english.alarabiya.net

The thing is, it might not even be Covid. Its the mere suspicion that is the issue with cruising because common flu or covid may be impossible to determine without a test.

 

[drron]

This is the problem with Covid and cruising.The testing is first of all usually not available quickly-at least rapid result tests.So unfortunately if there is a suspected case the cruise is over and the chance of further cruising gets less.S it is just a suspected case.I hope we find out the result.however it is not a cruise I would ever take.
However in this case it was not a cruise I would ever take.No alcohol!

Then there is the situation with the Unworld cruise in Alaska.A 36 passenger vessel.guest tested negative before leaving for Alaska.3 days later flew to Juneau and tested at the airport.3 days later test was positive.returned to port the next day and test was negative.So possibly a false positive.no other passengers or crew developed Covid.
however the Cruise Company has assumed the worst so cancelled the season.

Health & Wellness Onboard

Safe Travel with UnCruise Adventures Traveling exposes people to different environments than in everyday life, increasing the risk of illness due to changes in diet, stress, and exposure to new germs. Factors like crowded transportation, jetlag and differences in diet can also contribute and...

www.uncruise.com

 

[tgh]

the Cruise Company has assumed the worst so cancelled the season.

…and here's the rub….. every port and local government authority is/will be watching the floating petri dishes like a hawk.
The cruise companies have a lot to lose if they are perceived as still spreading the virus around.

 

[VPS]

This is the problem with Covid and cruising.The testing is first of all usually not available quickly-at least rapid result tests.So unfortunately if there is a suspected case the cruise is over and the chance of further cruising gets less.S it is just a suspected case.I hope we find out the result.however it is not a cruise I would ever take.
However in this case it was not a cruise I would ever take.No alcohol!

Then there is the situation with the Unworld cruise in Alaska.A 36 passenger vessel.guest tested negative before leaving for Alaska.3 days later flew to Juneau and tested at the airport.3 days later test was positive.returned to port the next day and test was negative.So possibly a false positive.no other passengers or crew developed Covid.
however the Cruise Company has assumed the worst so cancelled the season.

Health & Wellness Onboard

Safe Travel with UnCruise Adventures Traveling exposes people to different environments than in everyday life, increasing the risk of illness due to changes in diet, stress, and exposure to new germs. Factors like crowded transportation, jetlag and differences in diet can also contribute and...

www.uncruise.com

A cruise without alcohol - Sacre Bleu