Dan Murphy's and Other Wine Deals

[lalaland]

Translation: “We increase the price x10 to make our sh**y wine more attractive to the Chinese consumer.”

The bottle probably costs more than the wine

 

[SleepyPolarBear]

Quote: ""We tweak the wine style to meet the Chinese consumer," Mr Grundel said."

That's just complete and utter baloonery. It's a phrase that gets repeated over and over in the industry to validate some coughty move they're doing to their wines, and honestly paints a terrible picture of the overall Chinese consumer. Yes, they do heavily favour icon brands, mainly because those big brands were the first movers into their market, so there is a strong association there. Perhaps similar to here how we call portable coolers "eskys" or "band-aid" for adhesive bandages, their recognition of red wine started with '82 Lafite which had a presence in many 90's HK films. So, it's just going to take time for the market there to mature.

"We tweak our business model to meet the Chinese market", is a more accurate statement. Like many, many other Chinese businesses, selling just 1 item to 1 person in their market, can sustain that business for a lifetime. The product does not neccessarily have to be good, as return customers are not as important as we see in Australia.

So while I'm sure everyone here has avoided such wineries, I hope there is an understanding that, making the wine more 'approachable' and 'silky' while jacking the msrp for the Chinese market, is simply that winery taking the mickey out of them. You only need to cheat 1.4 billion people once to be laughing your way to the bank.

/offtopicrantover

 

[Tannin]

"We tweak our business model to meet the Chinese market", is a more accurate statement.

/offtopicrantover

And yet every wine I've tasted for the China market has been.... unrefined cough. Where's your proof? They're not exporting the same wine under the same label to China most of the time.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

And yet every wine I've tasted for the China market has been.... unrefined cough. Where's your proof? They're not exporting the same wine under the same label to China most of the time.

That’s biggest load of rubbish I have ever read! Enlighten the forum as to exactly how many times you have been to China in last 20 years and how many Australian wines you have had there?

Coz for me personally it’s >100s and SPB on the money - Penfolds there same here - other well known labels same same - pls post your anecdotes

 

[Jczer000]

Waters wine 15% off with 'EOFY'. Nice selection.

EOFY Sale - 15% off with code EOFY - Waters Wine Company

 

[AnzacPaul]

St Hallet Faith on sale $76.98/6

St Hallett Faith Shiraz

Faith Shiraz is a vibrant and expressive example of Barossa Shiraz. An accessible, juicy and fruit driven wine, Faith's vibrant yet dense purple hue hints at the generosity of fruit within. The bouquet is lifted with bright cherry fruit characters and a hint of chocolate with enticing spice...

cellarone.com.au

 

[kevviek]

Translation: “We increase the price x10 to make our sh**y wine more attractive to the Chinese consumer.”

I still remember my first trip to Beijing and the wonder about how much more expensive everything was there, until a local explained to me that the same quality exists across different shopping centres and only the price varies according to how well off people want to appear, which dictates where they shop.

 

[Tannin]

That’s biggest load of rubbish I have ever read! Enlighten the forum as to exactly how many times you have been to China in last 20 years and how many Australian wines you have had there?

Clearly we both have very strong opinions on this so I'm not respectfully not going to bite. I've never been to China, have refused to set foot there for a very long time. I said wine FOR China, not IN China.

 

[Tindersinder]

How about we all get back to what took us to this forum in the first place, - posting deals about wines!

 

[Lenscap]

Heads up for all those chasing babies at penfolds. Don't personally drink the stuff.

 

[owwreally]

Heads up for all those chasing babies at penfolds. Don't personally drink the stuff.

Thanks - where is that from?

 

[Tannin]

Thanks - where is that from?

Cellar Door (TWE friends & family site).

 

[redbigot]

More from 1847/Yaldara on Langtons
LANGTON'S Confidential MXXIX Shiraz 6 Pack, Barossa Valley 2017 | Langton's Fine Wines $210/6
Is 2017 Chalice Shiraz - 1847 Chateau Yaldara $100pb

LANGTON'S Confidential MXXIX Cabernet 6 Pack, Barossa Valley 2017 | Langton's Fine Wines $180/6
Is 2017 Chalice Cabernet Sauvignon - 1847 Chateau Yaldara $90pb

 

[Rug]

Limited amount of 2020 Standish available on pre order thewinecollective

EDIT Full range at the moment

 

[YNWAJUVEN]

Limited amount of 2020 Standish available on pre order thewinecollective

EDIT Full range at the moment

How many years minimum aging before entering drinking window?

 

[Rug]

How many years minimum aging before entering drinking window?

Which one?

 

[AnzacPaul]

Anyone know what this may be?

Mystery MV188 McLaren Vale Shiraz 2018 - Mystery Wine

Mystery MV188 McLaren Vale Shiraz 2018 - Mystery Wine

www.winestar.com.au

 

[YNWAJUVEN]

Which one?

Say Relic?
And how different are they? Love to learn the wines a bit more.

 

[Rug]

Say Relic?
And how different are they? Love to learn the wines a bit more.

Relic and Lamella you could drink now or wait. Theorum 10-20 years, Standish 10 years. Go on thewinecollective site and on each variety click on critics reviews.

 

[YNWAJUVEN]

Relic and Lamella you could drink now or wait. Theorum 10-20 years, Standish 10 years. Go on thewinecollective site and on each variety click on critics reviews.

Thank you so much