Dan Murphy's and Other Wine Deals

[redmaxo]

Couple of ok deals in that DM's list. Merite Shiraz Malbec for $13 and Hither & Yon Touriga $10

 

[Andrew04]

Another one I stumbled upon. So the Curtis Family Vineyards wines seem to be perpetually on sale well below RRP, either on secondary market sites (winedirect specifically) or Secret Wraps with DM.
I recently picked up 4 of the Martin's Vineyard Limited Series for $29 through DM secret wraps, well below DM's usual $95 or so. At $29 I think it's a pretty great wine.

First Choice are now selling the 2016 Curtis Cavaliere Shiraz for $20/bottle or $19/bottle for 6.

First Choice Liquor | Buy Wine, Beer, Cider & Spirits Online

www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au

It seems like nobody ever buys these wines at full price, but this appears to be consistently rated high, and $20/bottle would seem like pretty good value. Even on Wine Direct it's sold for $60/bottle (and $70/bottle at DM).

Keen to know if I'm missing anything here?

 

[Tannin]

It seems like nobody ever buys these wines at full price, but this appears to be consistently rated high, and $20/bottle would seem like pretty good value. Even on Wine Direct it's sold for $60/bottle (and $70/bottle at DM).

Often a secret label at Winedirect too. From memory, mid teens. Nice enough drop but I wouldn't pay $20 for it. RRP is ridiculous on all their wines.

 

[matith]

Does anybody have any feedback on the Barossa Old Vine Company Shiraz 2014? This is a big markdown from the rrp although I am wondering if the rrp is fanciful??

https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_579157/barossa-old-vine-company-shiraz-2014

Owned by Woolworths and given a 97 point review by a Dan's review panel...call my cynical but I reckon thats a bit on the nose.

Thanks. That helps.
It would still be good to see if anybody has tried it. All the reviews seem to be for older vintages and it looks like there was a change of winemaker from the 2014 vintage.

 

[SleepyPolarBear]

Another one I stumbled upon. So the Curtis Family Vineyards wines seem to be perpetually on sale well below RRP, either on secondary market sites (winedirect specifically) or Secret Wraps with DM.
I recently picked up 4 of the Martin's Vineyard Limited Series for $29 through DM secret wraps, well below DM's usual $95 or so. At $29 I think it's a pretty great wine.

First Choice are now selling the 2016 Curtis Cavaliere Shiraz for $20/bottle or $19/bottle for 6.

First Choice Liquor | Buy Wine, Beer, Cider & Spirits Online

www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au

It seems like nobody ever buys these wines at full price, but this appears to be consistently rated high, and $20/bottle would seem like pretty good value. Even on Wine Direct it's sold for $60/bottle (and $70/bottle at DM).

Keen to know if I'm missing anything here?

Never had it, but "good value" is pretty subjective, so if its a nice quaff, nothing wrong with it.

Having said that, I despise their marketing ploy of shock pricing. Putting a RRP of $150 for Martin's plays to the back of everyone's mind, even though you consciously know its a non-sensical number because hey, everyone wants a great deal. Like, its the playbook of every sketchy online retail nowadays and from a business standpoint, its brilliant - using the power of web price comparability against the consumers. I'm sure this also plays into the "high" vivino ratings as well, as the general consenses would go "definitely not worth $150, but Great for $30". The fact that the bloated RRP plays a part in the enjoyment of wine is just...... not right.

Anyways /rantover.

 

[Andrew04]

Often a secret label at Winedirect too. From memory, mid teens. Nice enough drop but I wouldn't pay $20 for it. RRP is ridiculous on all their wines.

Always interested in the reaction to these.
Agree the RRP is ridiculous, however ignoring that, I would think most would be pretty happy with paying $19 for such a wine (especially with the cellaring potential).

Feels like it's the constantly "on sale" price vs RRP that turns people off the wine altogether.

If I'm wrong, I'd love to know where I can consistently pick up better quality reds at $19 or below . Guess that's why I joined this forum!

 

[Andrew04]

Never had it, but "good value" is pretty subjective, so if its a nice quaff, nothing wrong with it.

Having said that, I despise their marketing ploy of shock pricing. Putting a RRP of $150 for Martin's plays to the back of everyone's mind, even though you consciously know its a non-sensical number because hey, everyone wants a great deal. Like, its the playbook of every sketchy online retail nowadays and from a business standpoint, its brilliant - using the power of web price comparability against the consumers. I'm sure this also plays into the "high" vivino ratings as well, as the general consenses would go "definitely not worth $150, but Great for $30". The fact that the bloated RRP plays a part in the enjoyment of wine is just...... not right.

Anyways /rantover.

I think this proves my previous post! haha.
I do get the reaction though....and feel sorry for anyone who ever paid more than 30% of its RRP/non sale price

 

[redbigot]

Another one I stumbled upon. So the Curtis Family Vineyards wines seem to be perpetually on sale well below RRP, either on secondary market sites (winedirect specifically) or Secret Wraps with DM.
I recently picked up 4 of the Martin's Vineyard Limited Series for $29 through DM secret wraps, well below DM's usual $95 or so. At $29 I think it's a pretty great wine.

First Choice are now selling the 2016 Curtis Cavaliere Shiraz for $20/bottle or $19/bottle for 6.

First Choice Liquor | Buy Wine, Beer, Cider & Spirits Online

www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au

It seems like nobody ever buys these wines at full price, but this appears to be consistently rated high, and $20/bottle would seem like pretty good value. Even on Wine Direct it's sold for $60/bottle (and $70/bottle at DM).

Keen to know if I'm missing anything here?

All the Curtis wines, Cavaliere, Limited release, Martins are mostly reasonable deals at the low price ($15, $20, $30 approx.) and only the careless or stupid buy above those prices. I've bought some over the years to put in quaffer packs for friends, never really kept any for myself and I think the merchants that offer them at higher prices are doing a disservice to (cheating even) their customers. Plus the marketing model originating from the producer leading to that crazy situation dos not attract me to their wines.

Let us know after you have tried them.

 

[Andrew04]

All the Curtis wines, Cavaliere, Limited release, Martins are mostly reasonable deals at the low price ($15, $20, $30 approx.) and only the careless or stupid buy above those prices. I've bought some over the years to put in quaffer packs for friends, never really kept any for myself and I think the merchants that offer them at higher prices are doing a disservice to (cheating even) their customers. Plus the marketing model originating from the producer leading to that crazy situation dos not attract me to their wines.

Let us know after you have tried them.

Agree. I've had the Limited Release and Cavaliere before, and think they're decent wines at the low end sale price, and good as a "nice bottle" for a dinner where you're the most knowledgeable wine drinker at the table.

 

[chonka]

Always interested in the reaction to these.
Agree the RRP is ridiculous, however ignoring that, I would think most would be pretty happy with paying $19 for such a wine (especially with the cellaring potential).

Feels like it's the constantly "on sale" price vs RRP that turns people off the wine altogether.

If I'm wrong, I'd love to know where I can consistently pick up better quality reds at $19 or below . Guess that's why I joined this forum!

There are a few tips that can be picked up in the forum. One would be using places like mywineguy or the wine collective to build referral credit by inviting friends and making sure bonus credits like birthday bonuses are set. Another would be keeping an eye out for codes for cellarmasters. Often i will even buy a $50 voucher from gumtree for a few dollars, and make sure to take advantage of cashrewards or shopback when using them (waiting for the increased %). In previous years thanks to the eyes and ears here we have picked up stuff like wynns black label and leaconfield cab sav for around the $15 mark. This week was a Scotch week for me though, with the 20% off eBay code, and some 5$ Robert oatley.

As far as the cavalier, it's fairly decent and back when winedirect had referral credits pulled the price back to something very reasonable if you like big oaky reds. (My mrs loves it)

Edit: and how could i forgot the recent Liquorland/FC/VC clearance. Some crazy saving were had there.

 

[jrod]

Another one I stumbled upon. So the Curtis Family Vineyards wines seem to be perpetually on sale well below RRP, either on secondary market sites (winedirect specifically) or Secret Wraps with DM.
I recently picked up 4 of the Martin's Vineyard Limited Series for $29 through DM secret wraps, well below DM's usual $95 or so. At $29 I think it's a pretty great wine.

First Choice are now selling the 2016 Curtis Cavaliere Shiraz for $20/bottle or $19/bottle for 6.

First Choice Liquor | Buy Wine, Beer, Cider & Spirits Online

www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au

It seems like nobody ever buys these wines at full price, but this appears to be consistently rated high, and $20/bottle would seem like pretty good value. Even on Wine Direct it's sold for $60/bottle (and $70/bottle at DM).

Keen to know if I'm missing anything here?

There's some funny stories going back about a couple years about these wines getting many 5 star reviews on vivino. In terms of RRP, they always seem to be really high but often sold cheap, I would think $29 is steep.

 

[redbigot]

This seems to be Curtis Martins for $22.78 https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_MYSTERY330/under-wraps-mclaren-vale-shiraz-2016

https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_58562/curtis-martin-vineyard-mclaren-vale-shiraz-2016

 

[Andrew04]

This seems to be Curtis Martins for $22.78 https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_MYSTERY330/under-wraps-mclaren-vale-shiraz-2016

https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_58562/curtis-martin-vineyard-mclaren-vale-shiraz-2016

HA! Exhibit A.
Makes me feel better about not buying the Cavaliere FC offer. Makes me feel worse about paying $29 for the same wine recently. You live you learn!

 

[SleepyPolarBear]

HA! Exhibit A.
Makes me feel better about not buying the Cavaliere FC offer. Makes me feel worse about paying $29 for the same wine recently. You live you learn!

Good deals are temporary. Curtis is permanent.

 

[wine-muller]

You'd have to imagine there are consumer law issues around their fantasy RRPs - I mean, what percentage of sales have they actually made at full RRP? Even being generous, you'd have to imagine it's less than 5% - certainly not enough for retailers to be using it as a base for two-price comparison advertising. And yes, as mentioned above, there's been some very suspicious Vivino user review activity from Curtis over the years.

My take on it is simple - even if the final discounted price represents fair value in the marketplace - do you reward the producers & retailers who are happy to push the boundaries of the law in order to make a sale? Or do you support those who do the right thing? Easy answer in my books.

 

[Andrew04]

You'd have to imagine there are consumer law issues around their fantasy RRPs - I mean, what percentage of sales have they actually made at full RRP? Even being generous, you'd have to imagine it's less than 5% - certainly not enough for retailers to be using it as a base for two-price comparison advertising. And yes, as mentioned above, there's been some very suspicious Vivino user review activity from Curtis over the years.

My take on it is simple - even if the final discounted price represents fair value in the marketplace - do you reward the producers & retailers who are happy to push the boundaries of the law in order to make a sale? Or do you support those who do the right thing? Easy answer in my books.

Beds/mattresses at physical bed stores are a perfect example of this. When are they not on sale with 40% or more reductions across the range?
I remember reading somewhere that there are laws against always being on sale, and that some retailers will return to the "regular" price for a set number of days, before reverting to the "sales".

 

[chonka]

Beds/mattresses at physical bed stores are a perfect example of this. When are they not on sale with 40% or more reductions across the range?
I remember reading somewhere that there are laws against always being on sale, and that some retailers will return to the "regular" price for a set number of days, before reverting to the "sales".

And impossible to price match as each store has its own 'model'! "Sorry that's a sleepy soft not a soft sleepy" I've taken the mattress in a box route myself

 

[wine-muller]

Beds/mattresses at physical bed stores are a perfect example of this. When are they not on sale with 40% or more reductions across the range?

Haha, yeah, exactly!

I appreciate that wine, being a seasonally fluctuant agricultural business, will almost always have a mismatch between supply and demand, thus facilitating the need for discounting. Very few producers are immune to this, and those that are almost always have a long history of producing great wines at fair prices. But that being said, producers like Curtis are something else - with just about their entire stock selling at 60-80% discount on their RRP, this isn't seasonal supply & demand mismatch, it's structural deception & something to be condemned.

 

[year of the roo]

Is Peter Lehmann Stonewell shiraz at $64.40 a good buy? My local BWS has it at that price. It was $69 when I was looking recently.
Might wait and see if there is an upcoming 20 or 25% off a mixed 6.. or other promo

The 25% off wine sale at BWS has been discontinued.

I'm not buying Stonewell above $40.

 

[mrak]

Beds/mattresses at physical bed stores are a perfect example of this. When are they not on sale with 40% or more reductions across the range?
I remember reading somewhere that there are laws against always being on sale, and that some retailers will return to the "regular" price for a set number of days, before reverting to the "sales".

I knew someone in the furniture industry who supplied major retailers. That business had to have one of a particular item on the floor in each store by a certain date. By coincidence, that date was 3 months before the big catalogue sale that showed those 50% plus discounts. That's when he had to have a big supply available.
Supermarkets are the same. No one buys Doritos when CCs are on special, and vice versa. All I can say is if the brand's business model is based on selling when "on sale", you are actually paying retail, not cheap. So why not buy something else?