Dan Murphy's and Other Wine Deals

[Buggbear]

Interestingly, received 2017 vintage. Surprising for a relatively new retailer, hope I wasn't sold a dud vintage! (no review on winefront for the 2017)
Edit: the winery suggests the 2017 was an exceptional vintage.

The 2017 won a trophy at the 2017 National Wine Show. Hardly a dud.

 

[baragh]

The 2017 won a trophy at the 2017 National Wine Show. Hardly a dud.

Pardon my ignorance, but is that a big deal? Genuine question.

I haven't put much stock in wine show awards, under the assumption that exceptional wines don't bother entering them. I've also noticed that aldi wines seem to win wine shows from time to time as well.

 

[olympicwiz]

Pardon my ignorance, but is that a big deal? Genuine question.

I haven't put much stock in wine show awards, under the assumption that exceptional wines don't bother entering them. I've also noticed that aldi wines seem to win wine shows from time to time as well.

The most important award is see how you like/enjoy it.. stick one in your fridge!

 

[tielec]

Pardon my ignorance, but is that a big deal? Genuine question.

I haven't put much stock in wine show awards, under the assumption that exceptional wines don't bother entering them. I've also noticed that aldi wines seem to win wine shows from time to time as well.

Without wading into the muddy waters of inter-rater, test-retest and internal consistency reliability etc... etc... I think the general consensus is that some (precious few) wine shows are worth paying attention to; the National wine Show is probably one of those.

Personally, I feel that the amount of stock to put into a wine's awards is directly inverse to how conspicuous the awards are on the packaging.

 

[Brissy1]

Interestingly, received 2017 vintage. Surprising for a relatively new retailer, hope I wasn't sold a dud vintage! (no review on winefront for the 2017)
Edit: the winery suggests the 2017 was an exceptional vintage

No such thing as a dud henschke

 

[Buggbear]

Pardon my ignorance, but is that a big deal? Genuine question.

I haven't put much stock in wine show awards, under the assumption that exceptional wines don't bother entering them. I've also noticed that aldi wines seem to win wine shows from time to time as well.

IMHO, if there is one wine show that you should pay some attention to, it is probably this one.

 

[toney]

Interestingly, received 2017 vintage. Surprising for a relatively new retailer, hope I wasn't sold a dud vintage! (no review on winefront for the 2017)
Edit: the winery suggests the 2017 was an exceptional vintage

Yep I got the 2017s as well @baragh

James Halliday gave this vintage a 94...

 

[redbigot]

IMHO, if there is one wine show that you should pay some attention to, it is probably this one.

Maybe.
The only real difference between NWS and other major capital city shows is that for many classes wines must have won a medal at another recognised show to be eligible to enter.
But then the usual vagaries take over - Chairman and panel chairs preferred style guidelines, large classes of wines, some with more than one judging panel, etc.

The end result is that wines winning gold or other medals at other shows win no medal or lesser medals and all the random variations of choice on the day. So the medal rates are the same / similar as for other shows, so a large proportion of medal winning wines from other shows end up with no medal.

Are all the judges at the NWS more capable and discerning than at other shows? In many cases they are the same judges in different panel combinations and classes.

The show judging process is so flawed that only the most distinctive wines that match the current preferred styles perform consistently across multiple shows. If you are looking for (old fashioned?) fuller-bodied cellaring styles (reds) with a fair kick of oak and tannin then you mostly won't find them amongst the medal winners these days.

I've been to many post-show tastings at the NWS and my personal tastes often don't match those of the judges. I find show results about the least useful indicator to me in guiding buying decisions.

 

[olympicwiz]

Any chance you have popped open a bottle yet? How did you find it?

Just received my Wirra Wirra McLaren Shiraz and cracked a bottle to try. It is 2019 vintage so a bit young and still green. As @Dr Ralph described it is solid. It is a well made wine without being (or expected) a superstar and quite enjoyable to drink. It is medium to full bodied, chewy tannins, dark fruits, good acidity and satisfying finish. It will probably improve with time I think, but perfectly ok to drink now. And it comes nicely presented with Wirra Wirra embossed on the glass below.

I think it represents a great value - with all the deals (3 for $40) discounts and cashbacks it worked out to be about $9.50 a bottle delivered and one could do a lot lot worse for that outlay in a bottle shop.

 

[Lemon_Party]

Get Wines Direct offering Glen Eldon Dry Bore Shiraz at $15 each. Has a pretty incredible 4.2 on Vivino - anyone know anything about this one?

 

[SleepyPolarBear]

Get Wines Direct offering Glen Eldon Dry Bore Shiraz at $15 each. Has a pretty incredible 4.2 on Vivino - anyone know anything about this one?

Without trying to bring any politics into this:
It's a Chinese export. Dressed up house red.

 

[DLR]

I think this is an error on the Vintage Cellars website and these aren't my style so I'm not going to try my luck but someone might be interested

 

[I love to travel]

I think this is an error on the Vintage Cellars website and these aren't my style so I'm not going to try my luck but someone might be interested

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Doesn't work when you check out

 

[DLR]

Doesn't work when you check out

Might have to try it in store or price match at DM

 

[Buggbear]

Maybe.
The only real difference between NWS and other major capital city shows is that for many classes wines must have won a medal at another recognised show to be eligible to enter.
But then the usual vagaries take over - Chairman and panel chairs preferred style guidelines, large classes of wines, some with more than one judging panel, etc.

The end result is that wines winning gold or other medals at other shows win no medal or lesser medals and all the random variations of choice on the day. So the medal rates are the same / similar as for other shows, so a large proportion of medal winning wines from other shows end up with no medal.

Are all the judges at the NWS more capable and discerning than at other shows? In many cases they are the same judges in different panel combinations and classes.

The show judging process is so flawed that only the most distinctive wines that match the current preferred styles perform consistently across multiple shows. If you are looking for (old fashioned?) fuller-bodied cellaring styles (reds) with a fair kick of oak and tannin then you mostly won't find them amongst the medal winners these days.

I've been to many post-show tastings at the NWS and my personal tastes often don't match those of the judges. I find show results about the least useful indicator to me in guiding buying decisions.

I stand lectured. However, mere mortals without palates like yours need some form of indication. The NWS judges may not come up to your standard or taste. For me, it is a good enough pointer. Wine taste being so subjective, it is really your personal preference that counts. There are many controversial views regarding wines shows. Take it with a grain of salt. Move on.

 

[kevviek]

Seems like BWS have some foreign wines on clearance in certain stores. Just got some of this for $32/btl.

Guillaume Gonnet
Bel Ami Châteauneuf du Pape
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[olympicwiz]

There is 20% cashback at First Choice via Shopback. $25 cap today 12m to 4pm.

Looking to buy Mollydooker Blue Eyed Boy Shiraz that supposedly rivals Grange. The cashback should bring the price to about $45

On FC website it states that it is 2014 vintage, but the current vintage is 2018 (which is not the greatest according to the reviews).

Would anyone know as how accurate they are with their descriptions?

EDIT: The have a disclaimer: * Wine vintages can vary when delivered or collected from your chosen Click & Collect store.

 

[DLR]

oking to buy Mollydooker Blue Eyed Boy Shiraz that supposedly rivals Grange.

As for vintage are you going to get it delivered or pickup from a store? Ring your local store and ask them to check what they have on their shelf. I ordered the last two bottles of Elderton cab sav they had in stock in August and received a 2013 and a 2016

 

[jrod]

Blue eyed boy, last time I saw it, is very full bodied, rich and very high alcohol. I wouldn't say it is similar to grange.

 

[olympicwiz]

As for vintage are you going to get it delivered or pickup from a store? Ring your local store and ask them to check what they have on their shelf. I ordered the last two bottles of Elderton cab sav they had in stock in August and received a 2013 and a 2016

Was going to have them delivered as there are no FC stores near me sadly.