Does anyone have any idea what QF780 is doing tonight?

[jrfsp]

Looks like it will turn around in PER and head to SYD as a delayed QF648 no doubt loosing further time with another extended route, probably arrive in SYD 2 hours late.

Costly issue.

 

[Bugalugz]

Did SYD-PER on EBB yesterday and went fully inland too which was weird as the 737's had all gone out to sea but makes sense now reading this thread!

 

[frezerohmatic]

I would suspect it is due to weather conditions. Victoria got hit bad with bush fires and extreme winds/thunder storms. Also just because ADL is "closed" for normal operations doesn't mean it can't be used for diversions or emergencies. ADL does have cargo and light aircraft landing at all hours. The runway doesn't actually close in reality but it is limited on what can be done with it.

At Adelaide Airport, a curfew applies between 11pm and 6am. While most aircraft operations are prohibited during this period, there is provision for the operation of emergency aircraft, some small jets, propeller-driven aircraft and freight flights.

Curfew Information - Adelaide Airport

Australia’s major airports are important gateways to domestic and international tourism as well as air cargo. They are a key component of Australia’s economic and transport infrastructure and many are located in densely...

www.adelaideairport.com.au

 

[jrfsp]

I would suspect it is due to weather conditions. Victoria got hit bad with bush fires and extreme winds/thunder storms. Also just because ADL is "closed" for normal operations doesn't mean it can't be used for diversions or emergencies. ADL does have cargo and light aircraft landing at all hours. The runway doesn't actually close in reality but it is limited on what can be done with it.

Curfew Information - Adelaide Airport

Australia’s major airports are important gateways to domestic and international tourism as well as air cargo. They are a key component of Australia’s economic and transport infrastructure and many are located in densely...

www.adelaideairport.com.au

As mentioned ADL runway is being closed at night currently for runway resurfacing works

 

[jb747]

MEL 27-93-01A. Prim 1.

No EROPS.

 

[frezerohmatic]

As mentioned ADL runway is being closed at night currently for runway resurfacing works

I don't think the runway is currently being worked on right now (I think that part is done but I'm not sure). I know some taxi ways are still being worked on.

Regardless, the day before was direct to MEL and we did have extreme weather when that flight was operating that absolutely would warrant such a diversion.

 

[justinbrett]

@jb747 can QF hold Edinburgh for ETOPS? I know it can't as an alternate but would have thought it could for ETOPS. Certainly in an actual emergency it's not a problem.

 

[RooFlyer]

Welcome to AFF @Wolbi136 . Terrific to get an ATC operative’s views on things

 

[elanshin]

I guess this is part of the reason a388 is running MEL-SIN atm.

 

[jrfsp]

I guess this is part of the reason a388 is running MEL-SIN atm.

Looks like a shortage of A330s, yesterdays QF35 cancelled and combined onto an A380 operated QF37, which means no A380 to operate todays QF11 with todays QF37 cancelled.

 

[KK17]

Looks like a shortage of A330s, yesterdays QF35 cancelled and combined onto an A380 operated QF37, which means no A380 to operate todays QF11 with todays QF37 cancelled.

Could this be why QF 128 from Hong Kong to Sydney next Friday had a plane change? When I made the booking a week ago, the seat map showed a 1-2-1 layout, but two days ago it switched to the older 2-2-2 layout. Or perhaps is it normal for aircraft swaps to happen this last minute?

 

[dazzaredroo1]

The route makes zero sense. It shouldn't be anything to do with ETOPS. Even with Adelaide out of the picture, you don't need any change to the normal routing with 3 hour ETOPS. Even 2 would work. If you were reduced to one hour, then Kalgoorlie, and Alice Springs could be used. Your track would probably go over Adelaide in that case.

Perhaps even more curiously, according to my normal source, that flight didn't exist.

Flightaware would disagree with your source.

 

[RooFlyer]

Flightaware would disagree with your source.

Welcome to AFF @dazzaredroo1 .

 

[AIRwin]

Wow so many newbies just in this thread!

 

[BNEFlyer]

APU issue, needs to stay close to diversion ports. It operated QF769 this morning and stayed inland again.

 

[p--and--t]

So much speculation!

There was obviously a good reason to delay the flight that much and expend the extra fuel, prob best to just wait for confirmed facts.

Some of the caustic sarcasm from the usual suspects is totally unwarranted and doesn't add to the thread one iota.

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I guess this is part of the reason a388 is running MEL-SIN atm.

Are you sure its not the Tay-Tay effect?

 

[KK17]

So much speculation!

There was obviously a good reason to delay the flight that much and expend the extra fuel, prob best to just wait for confirmed facts.

Some of the caustic sarcasm from the usual suspects is totally unwarranted and doesn't add to the thread one iota.

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Are you sure its not the Tay-Tay effect?

Hey those comments are tame and pretty funny ha - unless banter is not allowed on this forum.

 

[p--and--t]

Hey those comments are tame and pretty funny ha - unless banter is not allowed on this forum.

Except if you have been on here for several years and seen the similar caustic comments on thread after thread after thread by the same people wee4k after week who don't actually contribute to the thread title

 

[Gold Member]

Hey those comments are tame and pretty funny ha - unless banter is not allowed on this forum.

Some fanboys will never give up. They cry foul at any anything they can in a futile attempt to elevate their own self worth and social standing.

We allow them to persist with their “idiocy” to humour us.

 

[exLXCXFF]

Ok - back to topic, what we know so far:

- The plane actually flew that route
- ATC Ops Room picked that up last night and seemed equally confused amazed
- It could be an APU issue that VH-EBB is suffering from that forced it on this path?
- Today’s QF769 flight back to Perth went via Adelaide but stayed mostly inland.
- Today’s QF648 flight is delayed to 1pm Perth time