Dress standard in Business

[Deleted member]

Wearing a hat indoors!? Shocking!

That got me wondering about what hat etiquette used to be.

I think the etiquette used to be hats off for indoors, but hats on for public transport (trains and cabs). From photos in the 1950s/60s it seems aircraft got classified as the former.

Ladies were able to wear hats. Indoors. Gentlemen not. AFAIAC the wearing of a baseball cap indoors in a restaurant for example (but not limited to restaurants) , is extremely poor form , I extend that to aircraft as well.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Ladies were able to wear hats. Indoors. Gentlemen not. AFAIAC the wearing of a baseball cap indoors in a restaurant for example (but not limited to restaurants) , is extremely poor form , I extend that to aircraft as well.

I wonder if the Qantas Club will start enforcing hat etiquette for its next marketing/sales drive? (only in select lounges, of course)

 

[sudoer]

AFAIAC the wearing of a baseball cap indoors in a restaurant for example (but not limited to restaurants) , is extremely poor form , I extend that to aircraft as well.

I haven't worn a baseball cap in years, but I'm curious how someone else wearing one on a plane affects you?

Completely understand gripes with thongs, singlets, or any item which reveals more skin, but I have never understood the issue with baseball caps which, if anything, cover more.

 

[PineappleSkip]

I wonder if the Qantas Club will start enforcing hat etiquette for its next marketing/sales drive? (only in select lounges, of course)

Indeed. And when it comes to shorts, only dress shorts with long socks thanks.

Cheers skip

 

[RichardMEL]

The lounge "dress code" is only for Australian domestc lounges in the major cities, and as discussed to death on AFF generally considered to be stupid and confusing.

As for on board... be clean and neat and wear whatever you like. If it's OK for the terminal it's OK for the aircraft more or less.

I'd prefer someone in clean neat shorts and a tee to someone in a smally unwashed 3 piece suit.

but that's just me.

 

[TomVexille]

Feel free to wear the J pyjamas but wearing F pyjamas is considered ostentatious.

Guilty

 

[Dr Ralph]

I do not believe that there are any rigid standards. Nothing offensive is all that I would suggest.

I wore shorts and thongs on a CX international J flight recently and I wasn't the only one.

 

[Deleted member]

I haven't worn a baseball cap in years, but I'm curious how someone else wearing one on a plane affects you?

Completely understand gripes with thongs, singlets, or any item which reveals more skin, but I have never understood the issue with baseball caps which, if anything, cover more.

Yep, absolutely agree as protection from the sun. If you don’t understand my opposition to the wearing of a baseball cap indoors at the table, then there is no point explaining the difference between good and bad manners to you. With the possible exception of a picnic table at the local park / beach.

 

[sudoer]

If you don’t understand my opposition to the wearing of a baseball cap indoors at the table, then there is no point explaining the difference between good and bad manners to you.

For what it's worth, I wasn't disagreeing with you on wearing a baseball cap in a restaurant - particularly an establishment where there is a dress code, either stated or implied. It's disrespectful to the proprietors, chefs and staff, and I think is poor form.

What I don't understand, and the reason I asked the question, was how this translates to an aircraft. I often wear a beanie while flying long-haul to stay warm, is that considered bad manners?

 

[clifford]

Yep, absolutely agree as protection from the sun. If you don’t understand my opposition to the wearing of a baseball cap indoors at the table, then there is no point explaining the difference between good and bad manners to you. With the possible exception of a picnic table at the local park / beach.

I wouldn't wear a baseball cap anywhere outside my backyard when lopping trees, but I wouldn't have a problem if the person sitting next to me was wearing one, as long as they were clean, courteous and unoffensive.

Otherwise, what's the issue?

 

[BCons]

Don’t be a slob, is all...

 

[Franky]

I do not believe that there are any rigid standards. Nothing offensive is all that I would suggest.

I wore shorts and thongs on a CX international J flight recently and I wasn't the only one.

Dr Ralph - you have surprised me...

 

[RichardMEL]

Don’t be a slob, is all...

While I agree with the sentiment this is pretty subjective to some.

I mean one person's "slob" is another person's "clean and comfy travel clothes" like sweats or shorts and a tee.

though a "sloib" can be just as much about behaviour and/or personal hygene as it can about clothes.

Like I wrote earlier I generally couldn't care what others wear on board unless I notice it.. and I'll either notice it because it's a bit revealing (and usually, being red blooded, I probably won't have an issue with this on the right sort of person lol) or (far more likely) it's due to the behaviour of the person, or being grubby or unclean.

of course there's a slight caveat there that if one has been flying all day, even in F, at some point most of us are going to be in some sort of state of less than perfection. I've probably been judged a bit getting on a connecting flight at LAX after 15 hours in the air but I do generally try to a) preserve my clothes as best I can and b) clean up - deodorant, aftershave etc when I can to not be terribly offensive on such journeys. And again, this is where the comfy travel clothes come in.

 

[bigjobs]

there is some solid advice in this clip regarding the choice to wear shorts on a plane ...

 

[Flying_man]

I often wear a beanie while flying long-haul to stay warm, is that considered bad manners?

Yes.
No hat inside.

 

[mrsterryn]

Yes.
No hat inside.

Actually nowadays if someone is wearing a hat inside I don't even think about it.
On personal note husband had major brain surgery in 2015 and the trauma was quite obvious . He felt far more comfortable wearing a hat to hide the surgery.
He was criticised in a local coffee shop for wearing said hat, he removed his hat and the gentleman blanched.
Not always obvious

 

[Matt_01]

Feel free to wear the J pyjamas but wearing F pyjamas is considered ostentatious.

Ostentatious . Good Sir, what if F is all you have? All my J pyjamas are given away on this site.

 

[sudoer]

No hat inside.

I trust you take your shoes off when you fly with Japan Airlines then?

 

[TomVexille]

I trust you take your shoes off when you fly with Japan Airlines then?

And use the slippers, certainly!

 

[Franky]

Actually nowadays if someone is wearing a hat inside I don't even think about it.

Agree - but draw the line at the table..