Election 2010 August 21

[nlagalle]

Same electorate as you, anat0l, and like you I refused to vote for him.

edit: some good news for what I wanted to see, Feilding has failed to be re-elected to the Senate.

Jenifur Charne

I read on another site, but haven't seen it online on a news site.

Edit... i was thinking of conroy.. Fielding definately out..

 

[medhead]

Man, Albanese might be in trouble.

 

[samh004]

Last I heard was it could be 73-all and Gillard just made her speech saying that we would have to wait, so I’m sure Abbott will be speaking soon too.

 

[anat0l]

edit: some good news for what I wanted to see, Feilding has failed to be re-elected to the Senate.

Definitely good news.

I could say a lot more deservedly insulting things about Fielding, but I'll probably get moderated heavily, so I shall refrain.


Last live results show the LNP in front on pure count.

 

[medhead]

Definitely good news.

I could say a lot more deservedly insulting things about Fielding, but I'll probably get moderated heavily, so I shall refrain.

Speaking of people deserving of insults. Did anyone notice if One Nation got any decent votes anywhere.

 

[samh004]

Speaking of people deserving of insults. Did anyone notice if One Nation got any decent votes anywhere.

I know Family First got a couple percent in certain areas which I thought was surprising.

 

[medhead]

I know Family First got a couple percent in certain areas which I thought was surprising.

Yes, in my electorate they got 3.7%. But I'm in Sturt, so all those voting for Chris Pyne could be considered to be psuedo-Family First voters as well.

 

[JohnK]

Hung parliament. I believe the first since 1975.

Also the first time since 1971 that a first term government has lost their majority. And yes it was a 17 seat majority.

The possibilities are endless but if Labour could not govern with a 17 seat majority then they would find it difficult to govern with a minority government. Best possible result would be a coalition government and either way we are more than lilkey looking at early election. Yay.

I did hear both speaches and it is quite clear that Tony Abbott wants to be in power while Julia Gillard was not so sure of herself, the future of the party or Australia. I would be surprised if she was still the leader of the Labour Party (Prime Minister or Leader of the Opposition) at the next election.

This would have to go down as a very disappointing result for Labour. I have not read this thread but no point in going through all the things Labour did wrong. Perhaps they will get stop their factional fighting for starters....

 

[medhead]

Hung parliament. I believe the first since 1975.

1940 actually. The independants went with the ALP (eventually) and they formed the Curtain war time government.

1975 http://elections.uwa.edu.au/listelections.lasso
1974 http://elections.uwa.edu.au/listelections.lasso
1940 http://elections.uwa.edu.au/elecdetail.lasso?keyvalue=701

I was taken by Tony Abbott's false statisitcs. Claiming that it was the lowest primary vote for any government since WW2. At my last check the primary vote for the aLP was 38%. Shame for tony that the liberal's government in 1998, 1969 and 1961 had primary votes of 33.9%, 34.8% and 33.5% respectively. I also love him putting significance on the 2 party preferred vote, again lets look at 1998 when 51% voted for the ALP vs 49% for the LNP. I didn't see Abbott respecting the wishes of the majority at that election. :shock:

Perhaps they will get stop their factional fighting for starters....

And change the habit of a lifetime?

 

[odysseus]

I was taken by Tony Abbott's false statisitcs. Claiming that it was the lowest primary vote for any government since WW2. At my last check the primary vote for the aLP was 38%. Shame for tony that the liberal's government in 1998, 1969 and 1961 had primary votes of 33.9%, 34.8% and 33.5% respectively.

No, no, no, you mean he's not a poli-head, nor a tech-head?

Pretty lame speech from him tonight with all the gloating and criticism of the government. As he even had to admit the counting's not over yet, so it's not clear who will be in power.

The sad thing is it's going to be a tough time for Australia. Whoever comes in is going to have a harder time than even the current government did getting through an obstructionist opposition. Populism and protracted negotation and extensive compromise will likely be necessary for any decisions to get through. Stagnation ahead...

 

[serfty]

Same electorate as you, anat0l, and like you I refused to vote for him.

edit: some good news for what I wanted to see, Feilding has failed to be re-elected to the Senate.

Jenifur Charne

I read on another site, but haven't seen it online on a news site.

Edit... i was thinking of conroy.. Fielding definately out..

... but John Madigan of the DLP will probably be elected in his place ... they're virtually the same as Family First these days.

 

[Keith009]

Utterly knackered and voiceless - was out in Isaacs all day yesterday, managed to achieve a swing *towards* Labor so yay. At 2 of the booths I was at we led the Libs by almost 3:1. I like to think it's my natural charm. Sadly, these great numbers were not replicated nationwide.

And the results have confirmed that this has been the most compelling and exciting election yet!

Wilson Tuckey seems a goner. So long old chap. Though all is not lost. At the very least, I can take comfort and solace in the fact that if/when the Coalition forms Government, our Glorious Lady Sophie Mirabella will have a shot at a Senior Ministry. Long may She keep Abbott in check and guard the best interests of our nation with her strong heart and mind.

 

[Alanslegal]

The possibilities are endless but if Labour could not govern with a 17 seat majority then they would find it difficult to govern with a minority government. Best possible result would be a coalition government and either way we are more than lilkey looking at early election. Yay.
....

This would have to go down as a very disappointing result for Labour. I have not read this thread but no point in going through all the things Labour did wrong. Perhaps they will get stop their factional fighting for starters....

Sorry but I'm going to disagree to the point, that the 12-18months of relentless (and IMO unfair) negativity from the media assisted the ALP's downfall. Whilst the whole world is envious of Australia's financial position, the media and Coalition's continued focus on negativity eg. that the govt's pink batts caused people to die, school computers were bad, the current deficit is out of control ... you know they say, when you sling mud, some of it sticks and unfortunately with unrelentless mud-throwing - alot of it stuck.

Anyway I am greatful the ALP lead us through uncertain economic conditions - whilst some or alot of sceptical folks will say its easy to spend money because one was able to (due to the last Coalition govt having a surplus) - ALP's economic policy and stimulii during the GFC was Specific, Measured, Accurate, Responsible and Targeted ... that's why I call it SMART.

So long Australia ... back two decades here we come.

The sad thing is it's going to be a tough time for Australia. Whoever comes in is going to have a harder time than even the current government did getting through an obstructionist opposition. Populism and protracted negotation and extensive compromise will likely be necessary for any decisions to get through. Stagnation ahead...

I disagree to the point that the new Senate will be quite obstructionist but in my opinion should be 'much' easier to persuade / win over than last few years when the ALP had to 'try' and persuade not just the Greens but the remaining independent (and with different agenda) senators.

 

[serfty]

I live in ISAACS and did a pre-poll vote.

The sitting candidate won outright with 50.5 percent of the primary vote.
It used to be quite a conservative seat with the affluent Patterson Lakes region.

it was held by the conservatives with a 3% majority, but in 1996 was handed to Labour with a redistribution making it a notional 3.9% Labour seat.

Mark Dreyfus was always safe. My only aim this time around was to make sure none of the major parties got a piece of the political slush fund that my primary vote would have given them.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Utterly knackered and voiceless - was out in Isaacs all day yesterday, managed to achieve a swing *towards* Labor so yay. At 2 of the booths I was at we led the Libs by almost 3:1. I like to think it's my natural charm. Sadly, these great numbers were not replicated nationwide.

And the results have confirmed that this has been the most compelling and exciting election yet!

Wilson Tuckey seems a goner. So long old chap. Though all is not lost. At the very least, I can take comfort and solace in the fact that if/when the Coalition forms Government, our Glorious Lady Sophie Mirabella will have a shot at a Senior Ministry. Long may She keep Abbott in check and guard the best interests of our nation with her strong heart and mind.

Good woman Lady Mirabella. Wilson maybe gone but the seat is not, thankgod.

 

[Keith009]

I disagree to the point that the new Senate will be quite obstructionist but in my opinion should be 'much' easier to persuade / win over than last few years when the ALP had to 'try' and persuade not just the Greens but the remaining independent (and with different agenda) senators.

The Greens have never done anything to convince me that they're going to hold balance of power responsibily, whichever side takes power. They aren't willing to compromise to achieve political and policy outcomes, even when they agree with said policy! Case in point - ETS.

Many people vote for the Greens because it makes them feel good - but many do not really know the kind of extreme left wing policies that the Greens actually stand for. One of the biggest failures of the ALP in this election was to hold the Greens to account, not only for their whacky policies but also their political posturing that have seen many a progressive legislation voted down in Senate because they do not "go far enough."

The Democrats were a responsible, centrist balance of power party, the Greens are a hostile protest movement beholden to some of the most extreme, fringe political currents and trade unions.

 

[anat0l]

I'd like to know who in their perverted mind wants a bigoted dinosaur like Wilson Tuckey serving in parliament? :evil:

 

[Keith009]

I live in ISAACS and did a pre-poll vote.

The sitting candidate won outright with 50.5 percent of the primary vote.
It used to be quite a conservative seat with the affluent Patterson Lakes region.

it was held by the conservatives with a 3% majority, but in 1996 was handed to Labour with a redistribution making it a notional 3.9% Labour seat.

Mark Dreyfus was always safe. My only aim this time around was to make sure none of the major parties got a piece of the political slush fund that my primary vote would have given them.

I was mainly in the Noble Park area. Miserable day to be handing out - typical Melbourne weather. You should've come over to say hi.

I am going to petititon fto ban winter elections....

 

[Keith009]

I'd like to know who in their perverted mind wants a bigoted dinosaur like Wilson Tuckey serving in parliament? :evil:

In case you haven't realised I have always been taking the piss when it comes to some of our more, uh, lively and energetic parliamentarians.

But no... God Save Our Glorious Lady Sophie! Long may She reign and protect this Nation from the Political Terrorists.

 

[coyote25]

Funny thing in an election that might hand power to the Coalition we have definitely ended a lot of power to Greens who are so far apart from Abbott they can't see each other.

Weird cross result. Probably the most interesting time ever if it goes down this way especially if Brown forces gay marriage issue (ie not overriding Territories on issue) not sure how comfortable Abbott would be. Politics can cause some unlikely scenarios!