Emirates inflight safety video

[yachty]

I hadn't noticed the QF change either but a friend who is a crew member was telling me the other day that it had been shortened. A change for the best one figures.

Well it’s not like you are supposed to watch both languages.

I actually find the bilingual ones (where everything is said twice) really disjointed and hard to stay focussed especially if it’s boring.

I just got off a few CX flights after a bit of a break and I like theirs even though it does this. But I think the JL way of ping-ponging between lots of short sentences makes it feel less cohesive, though the JL way of showing "this will happen if you don't follow the instructions" is good.

 

[serfty]

I think the changes are noticeable.
All references to the destinations have been removed eg. “Welcome to Hollywood” with the exception of the introduction scene. It just cuts straight to the safety demo part of each segment.

That makes sense. I don't know precisely what it is, but as soon it came to some "frequent flyer/FA/Pilot"'s "special place" etc., I found myself completely zoning out with the only thing left being to ensure I (courteously) watch the FA's in the aisles doing their but.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

If it were read by a pilot it would start along the lines of "Ladies and ... erm <click> ... gentlemen. <pause> Listen to the following <pause> um ... or you might, um, <rattle> die"

However, it would never get that far, as, if written by a normal pilot, it would be re-worded by the Chief Pilot/Chief Pilot's delegate, then re-worded again by the Media/PR Department, then the Legal Department, then the Media/HR Department again!


Don't get me started on evacuations! (While jb747's wife's suggestion might not be practically applied at time of evacuation, it certainly would make for a nice modification to the saftey message/video ... "In the unlikely event of an evacuation, those of you wishing to take your hand luggage with you may leave the plane after everyone else. You will be informed when it is your turn [to finally leave whats left of the aircraft.] Thank you for your attention."

I thought the EK safety video was fine, pretty no-nonsense and to the point. Are they updating due to the new type(s) on the way?
OTOH, that ICE video is way past its used by date ... I suppose they'll have to bite the bullet and change it when Tom Hanks dies. BTW ... Am I the only one not to be aware of the "famous" brands like Bodicea the Victorious (which I've never heard of outside the ICE video?)

 

[milehighclub]

Well it’s not like you are supposed to watch both languages.

Nor am I suggesting that you have to watch both, simply the comparison that JAL can convey the information in a timely manner and effectively.

 

[justinbrett]

Nor am I suggesting that you have to watch both, simply the comparison that JAL can convey the information in a timely manner and effectively.

Disagree, as JAL make you sit through both languages as it’s done concurrently, you’re watching a video roughly the same length as the English language portion of the QF video, which flows better and is somewhat entertaining.

As I said my first preference is a live verbal brief, but if you’re going to make me sit through a recorded video, it should be entertaining, or very short. JAL does neither. Most English speaking airlines do similar to QF, so there must be something in it.

 

[RooFlyer]

The JAL safety video is awesome; saw it when flying there recently and it was short and to the point! Has inter-laced languages - yet still only 4 minutes!

Check out from 2:34 and see if this wouldn't grab your attention:







Better, I think than just a message "In the event of an emergency, please all cabin baggage behind ..."

Disagree, as JAL make you sit through both languages as it’s done concurrently, you’re watching a video roughly the same length as the English language portion of the QF video, which flows better and is somewhat entertaining.

As I said my first preference is a live verbal brief, but if you’re going to make me sit through a recorded video, it should be entertaining, or very short. JAL does neither. Most English speaking airlines do similar to QF, so there must be something in it.

Are you entertained by watching the Qantas video over and over again? If someone is watching it for the first time, it definitely shouldn't be entertaining. It should have instruction as its first and only imperative.

Yes, most airlines have been doing the entertain-thing (every airline likes marketing/publicity) but I think there is a push back now and I reckon we'll see more like JAL's and Emirates'..

 

[Quickstatus]

Does EK do the safety video in the 100 or whatever languages it says its cabin crew can speak.

Airplane manufacturers should just have crew operated overhead luggage compartment locks.
Sorts out
1)Emerg evac without hand luggage
2)Sorts out zone boarding

 

[RSVKanga]

I’m not sure if whether a video is creative or ‘no-nonsense’ will determine the behaviour of passengers in the event of an emergency, it’s more about the collective attitude of passengers and now they were raised. Both EK and JAL have always played ‘no-nonsense’ safety videos, and both airlines have had crash landing incidents in recent years, yet the response from passengers were completely different.

JL516 passengers were shown a ‘no-nonsense’ safety video before the aircraft crash landed on arrival. Nobody was fighting to retrieve luggage and clogging up the aisles.

EK521 passengers were also shown a ‘no-nonsense’ safety video before the aircraft crash landed on arrival. Almost everyone was fighting to retrieve luggage and the aisles were clogged.

So it’s more to do with the collective attitudes of passengers rather than a safety video, and it’s disappointing that creative videos are being blamed when some passengers are clearly not match fit in regards to safety. That includes recent turbulence incidents where people were not wearing their seatbelts when seated.

 

[justinbrett]

Are you entertained by watching the Qantas video over and over again? If someone is watching it for the first time, it definitely shouldn't be entertaining. It should have instruction as its first and only imperative.

Yes, most airlines have been doing the entertain-thing (every airline likes marketing/publicity) but I think there is a push back now and I reckon we'll see more like JAL's and Emirates'..

Certainly more than JAL. I completely zoned out and my recollection of it now is almost zero. Again, I find the billingual stop start really jarring and a massive turnoff. I much prefer the QF method of one language in entirety followed by the next. If JAL could do this and make it a 2 minute video, then great. But they don’t. So if I’m going to watch a 4+ minute video, then show me some nice scenes of beaches, mountains, cities etc.

Again my preferred method is a live verbal brief. Can’t beat that.

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Something else I've noticed with EK - is the speaker volume in the cabin. The volume of the safety video is not too loud.
Sometimes, it's barely audible - which I like. Or maybe it's the 18 champagnes kicking in by then...

Versus other airlines where it's full volume crackling sounding....yuck.

 

[Quickstatus]

So it’s more to do with the collective attitudes of passengers rather than a safety video

Should not mean that the safety video needs to be a Hollywood miniproduction. KISS principle applies. It's all within the 4 corners of the safety card. All the more reason for it to be short straight to the point. No fluff please.

 

[RooFlyer]

Nobody was fighting to retrieve luggage and clogging up the aisles.

Because in the video, everyone was still seated, unlike the Emirates video, but I take your point. Everyone survived both EK521 and JAL516.

EK521 passengers were also shown a ‘no-nonsense’ safety video

Obviously not this one, also from 2016

 

[OATEK]

The previous EK video was a bit cartoonish, and didn't give passengers the feel for being inside an aircraft (with the side-on elements). I like that the new video captures the feeling of being inside. The QF videos have been a sore point with me for some years as I felt they deflected from the core message with all the history and self-congratulations. But we all see these differently, and as per Serfty, I always try to maintain eye contact with the FAs when they are doing their bit during the safety demo to show respect.

 

[jb747]

If it were read by a pilot it would start along the lines of "Ladies and ... erm <click> ... gentlemen. <pause> Listen to the following <pause> um ... or you might, um, <rattle> die"

If it were read by a pilot, there would be no “ums”. We can read. Mostly. On the other hand, if he were making it up on the fly, as most PAs are, it would be full of them.

However, it would never get that far, as, if written by a normal pilot, it would be re-worded by the Chief Pilot/Chief Pilot's delegate, then re-worded again by the Media/PR Department, then the Legal Department, then the Media/HR Department again!

None of them would allow the actual pilot interpretation anyway.

Don't get me started on evacuations! (While jb747's wife's suggestion might not be practically applied at time of evacuation, it certainly would make for a nice modification to the saftey message/video ... "In the unlikely event of an evacuation, those of you wishing to take your hand luggage with you may leave the plane after everyone else. You will be informed when it is your turn [to finally leave whats left of the aircraft.] Thank you for your attention."

I’d apply it!

I truly cannot image the horror as someone tries to escape, but is thwarted by a person who has this overwhelming need for their wheelie bag.

People forget, and the airlines don’t want them to remember. Aircraft may carry hundreds of tonnes of fuel. It’s all around you. They are aluminium tubes, that can move at up to 1,000 feet per second (sounds better than metric). The air outside isn’t really air, in that it’s not breathable. The temperature outside is minus a lot. It is a completely hostile environment, that a combination of engineering, science, and skill has made so accessible that it’s the safest form of transport. But, it can still kill you at a whim. Sadly airline management has generally had no involvement in actual aircraft, and so we end up with safety noise that is anything but.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

If it were read by a pilot, there would be no “ums”. We can read. Mostly. On the other hand, if he were making it up on the fly, as most PAs are, it would be full of them.

Yeah, a memory item to be sure...

None of them would allow the actual pilot interpretation anyway.

I’d apply it!

And cause a blockage of the flow of people exiting in order to vet the carrying of baggage?

I truly cannot image the horror as someone tries to escape, but is thwarted by a person who has this overwhelming need for their wheelie bag.

Totally agree. But sadly the world was (re-)created by lawyers.

People forget, and the airlines don’t want them to remember. Aircraft may carry hundreds of tonnes of fuel. It’s all around you. They are aluminium tubes, that can move at up to 1,000 feet per second (sounds better than metric). The air outside isn’t really air, in that it’s not breathable. The temperature outside is minus a lot. It is a completely hostile environment, that a combination of engineering, science, and skill has made so accessible that it’s the safest form of transport. But, it can still kill you at a whim. Sadly airline management has generally had no involvement in actual aircraft, and so we end up with safety noise that is anything but.

Hopefully, though, most evacuations are performed whilst on the ground (or at sea level)!

 

[jb747]

Hopefully, though, most evacuations are performed whilst on the ground!

Ah, but if you’d actually listened to all eight minutes of the safety entertainment, you’d know that evacuations are only one item that’s covered. Of course, having listened to no part of this video, I’m assuming that it does still cover any items at all.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Well, tbh, I haven't watched it, however, I'm sure it still includes "attach your own mask before...", which is one of the more sensible items. Probably also includes something about vaping in the loo again as well...

 

[justinbrett]

I think the changes are noticeable.
All references to the destinations have been removed eg. “Welcome to Hollywood” with the exception of the introduction scene. It just cuts straight to the safety demo part of each segment.

I just watched it now on QF18. Definitely not the version when I left Australia 3 weeks ago.

I didn’t use a stopwatch but looks sub 5 minutes for the 787 version.

I actually think it’s really good now. Probably will age better without all the cringe lines.

 

[justinbrett]

If it were read by a pilot, there would be no “ums”. We can read. Mostly. On the other hand, if he were making it up on the fly, as most PAs are, it would be full of them.

I was just on an AA flight tonight and it seems the first officer skipped the lesson in pilots course on how to use the PTT button.

Every announcement he made (there were many, we had major ground delay issues on both the departure and arrival airports), started with “Gentlemen, unfortunately…”.

I mean I guess it’s possible he was only addressing the men, but I’m pretty sure he was just clipping himself every time he said “ladies and gentlemen”. It was perfectly timed to completely cut off the first two words with no suggestion the transmission was clipped.

 

[Quickstatus]

Is it necessary for the pilots to make routine announcements