F Lounge Enhancements

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They could've just been doing some work and then heard the final boarding announcement, panicked. And packed everything on the table and didn't realise it didn't actually belong to them.


I mean, it could've happened to anyone
 
They could've just been doing some work and then heard the final boarding announcement, panicked. And packed everything on the table and didn't realise it didn't actually belong to them.


I mean, it could've happened to anyone


If you are referring to the "stolen" iMac... then I have no idea how you conceived that thought process. That, or I'm doubting your integrity.
 
*bites tongue on the fruit-related computer issues, as discussing these could see him taken outside for a HR-initiated cough kicking*

Damm my NDA and employment contracts, they stop me from getting involved in all the fun discussions :D
 
I actually have a apple keyboard and mouse connected to my office windows laptop...

Thewinchester are you employed by apple now?
 
I haven't followed this thread closely but my understanding is that a number of the complimentary items that are usually available in the lounge have disappeared and are on an 'on request' basis as the result of a lot of the items being taken in bulk.

I had the good fortune of being in the Sydney F lounge earlier this week. My first act was to shower. I almost never use hotel toiletries and always travel with my own soap, for example. If I open one of the soap in my room, it goes in my soap dish in my toilet bag and continues with me until it's used up. As on previous occasions, on this visit to the lounge I removed the two tubs of Kevin Murphy toiletries and soap from the shower first and placed them on the vanity so that they could be repositioned as unused by the cleaner.

After my shower I emptied my pockets of some rubbish (an old bag tag and some paper) and threw them in the bin in the shower suite. When the lid of the bin popped up I notied that there were two of the Kevein Murphy tubs in there. I picked them up and they were almost full. My assumption, possibly incorrectly, is that a previous guest had opened them for their use and left them there. But I was curious as to why they would have been discarded. I think it's fair to say that even in hotels and other places where there are complimentary toiletries like this you simply leave them in the shower or the bath or on the vanity; you don't throw them away.

After breakfast I went back to my suite to brush my teeth. Curious, I checked that suite's bin to find three tubs of Kevin Murphy toiletries, two of the hair products and one of the moisturisers. I checked another two suites and each of the two bins had two discarded tubs of Murphy toiletries. I was shocked. It would see that the cleaning staff are simply discarding the minutely used tubs. What an incredible amount of waste that would surely be costing Qantas a lot of money.

Why couldn't Qantas place nicely designed 500mL or so sized containers of the three Murphy toiletries in the suites? Perhaps something in specially designed ceramic containers that could easily be refilled.

In the end, after brushing my teeth I returned to my seat with about six partially used tubs of Murhpy toiletries that I'd recovered from the bins. No doubt if a surveillance camerra had picked this up I would have looked like someone who was taking advantage of the services.

I guess my point it, perhaps it's not entirely a case of people filling their pockets with the items that might be costing Qantas a whole heap of money. There appears to be a whole heap of unnecessary waste going on.

Next time you're in the lounge, check out the bins in the suites.
 
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I guess my point it, perhaps it's not entirely a case of people filling their pockets with the items that might be costing Qantas a whole heap of money. There appears to be a whole heap of unnecessary waste going on.

Next time you're in the lounge, check out the bins in the suites.

I never actually checked for evidence of this but the reason that I've always pocketed my used Kevin Murphy products from the F lounge is because I've always assumed that they'd just get thrown out anyway. The size that they are also seem to suggest to me that Qantas wants we to put them in my toiletries bag for the rest of my journey.
 
After my shower I emptied my pockets of some rubbish (an old bag tag and some paper) and threw them in the bin in the shower suite. When the lid of the bin popped up I notied that there were two of the Kevein Murphy tubs in there. I picked them up and they were almost full. My assumption, possibly incorrectly, is that a previous guest had opened them for their use and left them there. But I was curious as to why they would have been discarded. I think it's fair to say that even in hotels and other places where there are complimentary toiletries like this you simply leave them in the shower or the bath or on the vanity; you don't throw them away.

After breakfast I went back to my suite to brush my teeth. Curious, I checked that suite's bin to find three tubs of Kevin Murphy toiletries, two of the hair products and one of the moisturisers. I checked another two suites and each of the two bins had two discarded tubs of Murphy toiletries. I was shocked. It would see that the cleaning staff are simply discarding the minutely used tubs. What an incredible amount of waste that would surely be costing Qantas a lot of money.

Why couldn't Qantas place nicely designed 500mL or so sized containers of the three Murphy toiletries in the suites? Perhaps something in specially designed ceramic containers that could easily be refilled.

In the end, after brushing my teeth I returned to my seat with about six partially used tubs of Murhpy toiletries that I'd recovered from the bins. No doubt if a surveillance camerra had picked this up I would have looked like someone who was taking advantage of the services.

I guess my point it, perhaps it's not entirely a case of people filling their pockets with the items that might be costing Qantas a whole heap of money. There appears to be a whole heap of unnecessary waste going on.

Next time you're in the lounge, check out the bins in the suites.

Interesting points there Danger.

First up, I think it's quite apparent that most people would consider "communal bottles" or containers in a First level lounge as very "non-premium". I'm not too sure why, but that seems to be the most common perception that I've picked up from others who have had the F experience (not necessarily QF, just in general). It's the same thing of going to a nice hotel and seeing common / refillable bottles of shampoo, conditioner and body wash (and sometimes moisturiser as well).

As for the wastage issue, the other side of that if someone is expecting individual sized accessories, they expect them to be new. If there is a bit missing, then they know that the bottles are recycled / reused. There may not be anything really wrong with the mix inside (maybe just less of it), but they are annoyed because it isn't new.

I think hotels experience a similar issue to what you describe about the QF F lounges. People often assume - because of the previous explanations - that if the bottle is even just opened, they will be replaced. From the customer side, the options then are to take the bottle, or it gets disposed. I suppose the customers often think they're doing the cleaners a favour by throwing it out for them, because then the cleaner doesn't have to check whether it was touched or not. The difference between a hotel and the QF F Lounge seems to be that every time a hotel room is changed over, the bins are always emptied, whereas for the QF F Lounge it seems that they are not (only the essentials are done - shower, floor and possibly accessories). So you would never know at a hotel whether the last patron threw away their amenities after only using a little bit, or not.
 
Xerox invented it a number of years earlier. Steve Jobs went around to Xerox, had a meeting with them and saw the mouse - and the rest, as they say, is history...


OT - Nether Apple or Xerox invented the mouse or GUI OS concept, in the case of the mouse it was patented 6 years before the company started (same year PARC was established). The inventor is also considered to have been a contributor to the Internet and world wide web with his NLS System being chosen as the second node for ARPANET

Home*-*Doug Engelbart Institute


http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_computer_mouse_patent.htm
 
OT - Nether Apple or Xerox invented the mouse or GUI OS concept, in the case of the mouse it was patented 6 years before the company started (same year PARC was established). The inventor is also considered to have been a contributor to the Internet and world wide web with his NLS System being chosen as the second node for ARPANET

Home*-*Doug Engelbart Institute


Computer Mouse - Original Computer Mouse Patent

Yeah, l knew that you'd be around to sort out the BS that dribbles from my posts Markis10.

*Edit, I did look at Wiki-Mouse before l posted, but couldn't be bothered with all the links and what not. Mouse (computing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia. Wiki dates back to 1952...beginnings of a pointing device
 
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